kazann said:
Please dont use oppressed like as if they're living in hell and are subjected to an authoritarian treatment. It makes your cause seem pathetic, this isn't the 1970's. Thank god its a small minority that think like you, they just happen to be vocal. I know women that would laugh at what your saying.
Did you know that women in the sex trade have levels of PTSD comparable with soldiers returning from active duty? That over 75% report at least one rape a year?
That's oppression.
Ilovechocolatemilk said:
So you're against free speech. The idea that one person's speech matters more than another's is antithetical to the idea of free speech. Either everyone has it, or it's not free. Some pigs are not more equal than others.
I support the free speech of women, racialized folks, and other oppressed groups. I don't give a shit about the free speech of spoiled white dudes.
It's shocking to me how someone who says they believe in social justice can be in favor of censorship. Free speech is our main weapon against oppression. How can you not see this? Have you never studied history?
Our main weapon against oppression is resistance. And I have studied history, and I can tell you that feminist activists working to disrupt the production and distribution of woman-hating material is a very effective strategy against male violence.
So let me ask you this, how are you so sure the game encourages violence against women if you haven't even played it? People who have are telling you that's a false charge. What do you have to say about that?
I've seen videos of the behaviors described - in addition, the feature was possible in all GTA games from Vice City up, if I remember correctly.
gmaverick019 said:
see what I mean? There is no issue at all with people not liking something, hell I find GTA extremely boring, none of that shit has ever interested me, but I don't see why I should prevent someone else from being able to play it. Censorship is pretty much bad in all cases, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that actually warrants being outright censored, and sure, not every store has every item stocked in the history of stocking, but they aren't for "i'm offended! I demand to be accustomed to!" reasons, they are for the fact they aren't selling anymore or they can't get ahold of stock for it.
This has nothing to do with women and pro-feminists "not liking something." I don't like Nickelback and I don't like Parmesan cheese. I don't want either of those things removed from stores.
What this has to do with is women who do not want their abuse to be made into a sport for men. It has to do with women's frustrations regarding the way they're portrayed in video games as sex objects, sluts, and targets of scorn and violence. It has to do with, you know, hundreds of years of rape and abuse that women have suffered from men. It's not about taste. It's not about individual preferences. It's about a woman's desire and a woman's right to live in a world where hurting her for being a woman is not a pastime that men like to simulate.
Women can choose to not buy GTA 5 but they *cannot* chose to not live in a world where millions of men find simulations of their rape and murder to be a fun diversion in a video game. This is about the latter, not the former; it's about women who live in a world where *thousands* of men rape, abuse, and murder prostituted women, and how those women want to live in a world where at the very least that violence is not replicated onscreen for the enjoyment of men.