Mmmyeah, they are most likely all just people jealous of how happy your work experience is. I grew up in a very military family where most of us practice some form of serious, martial arts. Not surprisingly, my brother and I both grew right into teaching our skills to kids as an occupation after school. I STILL get the "not a real job" thing from lots of people all the time. I'm still not sure why people think this way, but I think it's like you said. They all seem to revolve around how much you enjoy it.Vausch said:You ever get someone that tells you that? I got an argument with someone that says art isn't a real job because there's no physical labour involved, and nobody should charge more than 10 dollars for a drawing. Needless to say many erupted at him, but I've heard this about almost every job that involves entertainment or the like.
All I hear from it is "Stop enjoying your work and have a miserable job like mine". I mean, what is a "real" job? I perform a service, people are willing to pay for it, I get paid. Is it not a real job because I enjoy doing it?
Vausch said:You ever get someone that tells you that? I got an argument with someone that says art isn't a real job because there's no physical labour involved, and nobody should charge more than 10 dollars for a drawing. Needless to say many erupted at him, but I've heard this about almost every job that involves entertainment or the like.
All I hear from it is "Stop enjoying your work and have a miserable job like mine". I mean, what is a "real" job? I perform a service, people are willing to pay for it, I get paid. Is it not a real job because I enjoy doing it?
Sorry for the delay. My current "real job" completely wiped me out yesterday.Zeke63 said:what is an automated test versus what they say is your "actual" purpose?Diddy_Mao said:Whatever honest work earns you your daily bread is absolutely a "real" job and I won't hear otherwise.
I used to get this from some of the developers I worked with. "You're just doing the automated testing. Get to work on the "real work" you were assigned."
Conveniently forgetting that their sloppy ass code was the whole reason I had to run bi-weekly automated tests.
I think I know what you mean, I think you mean those who try to invoke your pity more than would be warranted considering their situation.CrossLOPER said:I'm not saying that all beggars are con-artists; I'm talking about those that make a living out of it by choice, and profit from the kindness of others by pretending to be too unwell to be under employment.
You're actually making my point. People who can't live within their means constantly have to borrow money or live on credit. The fact that people who massively borrow can have great credit scores illustrates just how profit based the credit score system is. If they were actually good at allocating their funds properly, they would not need to borrow money. You can slip further and further into debt and your level of inability to live within your means and to pay back your debts will be masked by being offered increased credit limits or transferring debt to different lenders/cards without ever actually having to pay off the balance of previous debts.Verlander said:The "bad credit rating" is more to do with the fact you can't consistently prove that you can pay back within your means, rather than profit making. Some people who massively borrow can have a great credit rating, as can people who borrow very little - the rating isn't dependent on size of debt, or potential profit, but the risk of you taking out a first time loan and never being able to pay it back because you're not used to it (or you already have allocated your monthly renumeration, like salary).Aramis Night said:I would love it if my lack of debt would reflect well on my credit score. But i don't think that passing laws is the answer. It just shows that credit scores are less of an indication of risk and more an indication of potential profit for lending agencies. If you do not have debt and are driven to stay debt free, than any lenders you deal with don't stand to make much money on interest dealing with you and have no incentive to do so.Gilhelmi said:I am bugging my congressmen and representatives, to pass legislation to automatically give good credit points to people every year they do not have debt. Trying to get others to join me.Aramis Night said:snip
I'm not in debt to anyone for anything(something credit agencies seem to despise. Whenever they run a background check on my credit it comes out with a bad credit score because its blank). I live within my means and have been given no handouts, or benefits of any kind.
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I am thinking about getting more involved in politics just to bug people to fix problems like this. It is good too see other fiscal conservatives out there (Note: I said FISCAL, just nipping the dozen people hating on me for saying the "C" word)
One solution i would like to see is credit scores being information beyond the reach of any businesses that are not lenders and only with your permission to obtain a loan or credit. Living within your means could in some fields actually cost you promotions because some employers do credit checks.
Oh and don't worry. I'm not offended by the notion of being related to fiscal conservatism. My positions are varied, but i'll admit that fiscal conservatives have a lot of good points. I'll take that as a compliment![]()
A really simple way to boost your credit rating would be to get a minimal charge credit card and spend maybe £10 or so a month on it, paying the debt off immediately so it doesn't accrue any interest. As credit rating systems are mostly automated, this will begin to eventually give you a great rating as a reliable lender. It's easier said than done though, and don't use the credit card for anything more than this - those things are also the easiest way to get a bad credit rating through abuse of the card. It's far too tempting when you are stuck for money or in an awkward situation to use them beyond what you can safely pay back
Wow, your standards for a real job is incredibly high. There is almost no way to guarantee a regular paycheck long enough to raise a family. Even if you are incredibly fortunate enough to make enough to support a family paycheck to paycheck(which would have to be a huge amount of money). Seeing as how virtually no one has job security anymore how can you know if your job is a real job until after you have had it for 2 decades.The Lugz said:my personal concept of a 'real job' is one that involves a regular paycheck and or reliable income
on which you can base raising a family, run a home, a car and or whatever entertainment you like.
if you manage that in some manner then your job is a real job.
the exact route is irrelevant.
Aramis Night said:Wow, your standards for a real job is incredibly high. There is almost no way to guarantee a regular paycheck long enough to raise a family. Even if you are incredibly fortunate enough to make enough to support a family paycheck to paycheck(which would have to be a huge amount of money). Seeing as how virtually no one has job security anymore how can you know if your job is a real job until after you have had it for 2 decades.The Lugz said:my personal concept of a 'real job' is one that involves a regular paycheck and or reliable income
on which you can base raising a family, run a home, a car and or whatever entertainment you like.
if you manage that in some manner then your job is a real job.
the exact route is irrelevant.
I'm with this guy.triggrhappy94 said:Do you get paid?
Do you "work" at least one hour a week?
You're employed.
I think the real question should be: "You get paid for that!?"
Makes you sound less ignorant.
As per "physical labour," I don't think there's been many of those kinds of jobs since the last industrial revolution.