The Official Fallout 3 Thread.

Hey Joe

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Blew up Megaton. Fuck 'em, and Tenpenny tower is niiiiicccceeeee. When I returned to the scene of the crime, what did I find? Freakin' Moira cheerful as always...only a ghoul. That really had me going 'okay, wtf is going on here?'
 

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Hey Joe said:
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Blew up Megaton. Fuck 'em, and Tenpenny tower is niiiiicccceeeee. When I returned to the scene of the crime, what did I find? Freakin' Moira cheerful as always...only a ghoul. That really had me going 'okay, wtf is going on here?'
Oh yeah...I heard about that but couldn't find her, where is she?
 

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Anyone else having a ridiculous amount of lock-ups on the PC version? Seems to happen a lot when I'm entering houses. Audio continues to play, but everything else freezes.
This is with a legit copy on a fully functioning and virus/spyware free system.

Been browsing the official forums for it and it seems I'm not the only one. Just no fix/patch yet. A shame really, because I really like the game, but freezing up randomly takes the fun out of it real fast.
 

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Lt. Sera said:
Anyone else having a ridiculous amount of lock-ups on the PC version? Seems to happen a lot when I'm entering houses. Audio continues to play, but everything else freezes.
This is with a legit copy on a fully functioning and virus/spyware free system.

Been browsing the official forums for it and it seems I'm not the only one. Just no fix/patch yet. A shame really, because I really like the game, but freezing up randomly takes the fun out of it real fast.
Other people have been reporting that too, but many PC users seem to have no issue.
Do you have the recommended requirements or are you just playing with the minimum ones
 

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Has anyone found the family yet (you know, the guys who took that little kid from Arefu and killed his family). I just can't find them.
 

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It seems that one must either love fallout and hate oblivion or vice versa. I, for one, enjoyed both games immensely, but on different levels. You simply cannot compare Fallout to Oblivion, or the other way around. One was a part-turn-based, 2D, isometric Pen-and-paper-esque RPG, the other a realtime, 3D hack'n'slash-esque RPG. One was futuristic, one was fantasy. It's like comparing Hitman to The Sims - there are people in both, and that's about it. For the people expecting another Fallout I think it's safe to say that they should lay off the nostalgia. Games are not made like that anymore, no matter how much we might whine or wish for it. Fallout 1&2 still exsist, and you can still play those, but don't expect more of the same.. and why would you? I played Fallout 2 through to the end, and honestly, there were a lot of things that could have done with some improvement. Yes, it's fun and unique in its way of presenting itself, but beyond that it's nothing special. Similar is Oblivion; fun, solid, but with its flaws. I often feel people are nitpicking about Oblivion, maybe because it seems like a challenge, a game saying "I'm perfect, prove me wrong", and people accept that challenge? I dunno. To each his own. For me, Fallout 3 seems like a great combination of Oblivion and Fallout, and one that I'll definately buy when I have the money. I think sometimes people need to lay off the zealous fanboy act and realize that they don't have to cry foul everytime someone does anything to their beloved thing. It's like some of the people around here actually enjoy bashing Oblivion/anyone who likes it/anyone who thinks Fallout 3 will be good/anyone who likes bethesda/anyone who hasn't played Fallout and/or praised it as the greatest game EVAR!

Whatever. I read the Escapist review of Fallout 3 yesterday, and I think it has some good points. Mainly that more of the same fallout would be impossible in this day and age, and that it has been reincarnated in the best way possible for the series. My advice to anyone getting their nickers in a twist over this game is to ignore it exsists, whistle loudly and cover their ears while people talk about it/play it, and pretend the series ended at Fallout 2. Effectively, Fallout 3 might as well have been called "Post-Nuclear Wasteland Explorer 2000", as I think it's a new game on its own, and worthy of not being compared from top to bottom to a ten-year-old series that, for all intents and purposes, died when the studio was closed down. Why didn't they? Money, I guess. Or trying their darndest to actually appease the fans of the game who are now chewing Bethesda a new one for not being Black Isle. Sad, actually. But I guess die-hard religious zealots wouldn't like someone named "Jeff" to rewrite their holy scripture in a different style than the original, even if his intentions were pure as snow. Go figure. Fanboys will be fanboys.

-Jarl
 

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To be honest, I played Fallout 1 about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about and I thought it pretty much sucked. I can see I would've enjoyed it had I played it 10 years ago, or whenever it's heyday was, but as it stands now, it's aged pretty badly.

The graphics and sound effects sucked, the main character walks too slowly so it takes ages to get anywhere, the controls in general are clunky, and I just wasn't feeling this fabled "atmosphere" everyone talks about. The only thing I did like was the way you level up, put points in things and select perks.

Fallout 3 does all of that, yet brings the franchise into the modern age. It is everything I've heard people on forums say the previous two games were (which I personally didn't find to be true when I played the first one, and since the second one uses the same engine, it's basically the same game just with different locations& quests) - it is atmospheric, has engaging storylines, interesting sidequests with multiple ways through, many different and viable character builds, interesting levelling and perks system, etc... and because the owners of the franchise call it so, as well as these reasons I just stated, it therefore IS Fallout, despite what has been said by certain other (wrong) posters earlier in this thread.

I agree, I think nostalgia for days gone by can be misleading. The ONLY old games I enjoy playing are the ones I actually played when I was young. Whenever I try to play someone else's trip down memory lane, i.e. games I missed for whatever reason at the time, all I see are dated, crappy, issue-ridden messes, because I'm looking at them from todays perspective without the rose tint.

For example; Get Dexter (or Crafton et Xunk as it was otherwise known) was a better isometric adventure game than Fallout 1 in my opinion, but that's because I played it as a child and have fond memories of it and didn't play Fallout 1 until more modern times, not necessarily because it's true (although "better" is a subjective term and cannot be proven one way or another).
 

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Thirtysomething said:
To be honest, I played Fallout 1 about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about and I thought it pretty much sucked. I can see I would've enjoyed it had I played it 10 years ago, or whenever it's heyday was, but as it stands now, it's aged pretty badly.
I would disagree, I played the original Fallout 2 weeks ago to see what the fuss was about and I consider it to be one of the best games I've ever played.
Which is why I'm still cautious about buying fallout 3 as Bethesda haven't produced any other games I've liked and none of the preview videos showed me anything that would make me hopeful.
 

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Spartan Bannana said:
Do you have the recommended requirements or are you just playing with the minimum ones
Way above minimum requirements. Also already updated everything and fixed/tried all suggestions. I'm hoping it'll get fixed soon.
I'm guessing it's either SecuRom or some caching/error handling that's doing it.
 

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Axolotl said:
Thirtysomething said:
To be honest, I played Fallout 1 about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about and I thought it pretty much sucked. I can see I would've enjoyed it had I played it 10 years ago, or whenever it's heyday was, but as it stands now, it's aged pretty badly.
I would disagree, I played the original Fallout 2 weeks ago to see what the fuss was about and I consider it to be one of the best games I've ever played.
Which is why I'm still cautious about buying fallout 3 as Bethesda haven't produced any other games I've liked and none of the preview videos showed me anything that would make me hopeful.
That's cool. You liked the game, I didn't, we can agree to disagree on that one as it is a matter of opinion.

To clarify: the only thing I'm taking issue with here is when I hear people utter the phrase "it isn't Fallout" when referring to Fallout3. It IS fallout. It's changed, yes, but it is still Fallout. Whether or not it's changed for the better is a matter of hotly debated opinion, and I will tell nobody who has played it that says they don't like it that they are wrong, even if I will happily disagree with them. What I am saying is wrong is to say that Fallout 3 isn't a Fallout game.

It is. The owners of the license say it is, so it is. The actual law even backs me up on this; it is a statement of fact, not an opinion. On top of that, it is set in the same world and the storyline is cannon. It IS Fallout, and I can only hope there will be many expansions and sequels that match or even exceed the calibre of this game.

Sorry guys, the world went and changed, it moved on. Isometric turn-based combat just aint in fashion anymore.
 

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laikenf said:
Has anyone found the family yet (you know, the guys who took that little kid from Arefu and killed his family). I just can't find them.
He's not a little kid, he's an adult, also, they're in northwest seneca station, ask the ghoul about it.
On that subject:
I used my cannibal perk on Ian West recently, can you say irony?
Thirtysomething said:
since the second one uses the same engine, it's basically the same game just with different locations& quests)
Second one offered a little more freedom as well as some entertaining hijinks
 

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Try updating your drivers and re-installing your codecs.
You were close it seems. I've fixed it now (so far anyway, keeping my fingers crossed). The problem lies with the ffwdshow audio decoder configuration. I needed to turn off audio decoding in Fallout 3, by adding it as an exception "do not use ffwdshow for:" in the ffwdshow options.
 

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I am clearly in a minority when it comes to playing the original fallout. I just plain can't get into it because it's... well... bad. Inmyopinion, of course :)

It's probably a simple case of my being spoilt by modern games. I can't go back and enjoy these classics because their limitations are too much of a hurdle for me to be able to ignore or get past.

Anyway whatever - I finally blew up megaton and am loving being in tenpenny tower a hundred times more than that old dump.

Also in Oasis, I
set fire to that poor old tree fella because I couldn't be bothered dealing with the mudcrabs in that cave - then happily murdered all those annoying hippy-types and left the place to rot.
It was glorious!
 

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Doesn't really feel that different to either of the first Fallout's to me - and it's obviously a huge improvement over the third and fourth game.

I'm not sure when the originals were really so stunningly hilarious? They were funny, but then so is this game at times. I can't help feel it doesn't seem quite as funny because its more real and involving. Being more immersed in the world has the downside of seeing things in a far starker way. Given the perpetual nature of travel in the game the random encounters would have seemed pretty strange - I just don't see how you could have the Tardis appear suddenly without it seeming wrong rather than funny here.

And the dialogue in the first two games was pretty good - but it was pretty good for a computer game, I don't remember suddenly thinking that I wanted to stop watching a movie or reading a book at the time so that I go and listen to more of the dialogue in Fallout 2.

But yeah, as some who enjoyed the first two games its seems like an absolute miracle to me that anyone has brought the series back and done such a good job. It's a great game, which expands hugely on the sense of exploration and real creates the sense of a wasted world... something that maybe precludes treating it as a joke.

On a more important point - poor Harold, so sorry to see what Bob became... Now I've got one hell of a tough choice to decide what to do about his heart.
 

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Please awnser this! Can someone tell me of Fallout followers that like folks with high karma?
´Cause every potential follower I find calls me a "goody two shoes" and wont come. I already have dogmeat, but I need someone else.
 

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Thirtysomething said:
I am clearly in a minority when it comes to playing the original fallout. I just plain can't get into it because it's... well... bad. Inmyopinion, of course :)

It's probably a simple case of my being spoilt by modern games. I can't go back and enjoy these classics because their limitations are too much of a hurdle for me to be able to ignore or get past.

Anyway whatever - I finally blew up megaton and am loving being in tenpenny tower a hundred times more than that old dump.

Also in Oasis, I
set fire to that poor old tree fella because I couldn't be bothered dealing with the mudcrabs in that cave - then happily murdered all those annoying hippy-types and left the place to rot.
It was glorious!
Where is the Oasis?
 

Lt. Sera

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TommyGun465 said:
Please awnser this! Can someone tell me of Fallout followers that like folks with high karma?
´Cause every potential follower I find calls me a "goody two shoes" and wont come. I already have dogmeat, but I need someone else.
From another forum I know that there are 2 followers for each karma level, evil/neutral/good and 2 followers who don't give a shit. Dunno where though, just rehashing something I read.