The Room

[Saltyk]

This does pose a question. Do the Pokemon regions not have good communication? Did the original region only count the ones that were in that region? Is this a case of Columbus "discovering" new continents? Do the Pokeleaders intentionally keep their people ignorant? What aren't they telling us?

We've always been at war with Team Plasma. They have always been our enemy. Team Rocket has always been aiding us in our battle against team Plasma...

Wait... really?

I haven't payed attention since Red/Blue. Are there seriously 700+ of the little bastards running around now?

My thoughts exactly, and that alone is enough to make me keep my distance. Then there is the possibility of powercreep with all these new pokemon. Don't know how bad it is or if it's even a problem, but I don't want to find out.

I do admire pokemon from a marketing perspective, though. Everything in it is designed to sell. The roundness of Pikachu to attract little kids (boys and girls). The fact that the pokemon talk with their names to help kids remember their names. It has to be one of the most clever marketing schemes of all time. Gotta catch'em all, after all.

That's enough to make you keep your distance. But...

Powercreep is actually not a problem. There are less things being banned from tournament play with each new generation (since DPPt, anyway). The meta game gets mixed up a bit (BW introduced some highly aggressive play that actually worked in the meta, and XY introduced the fairy type, a new way to counter dark, dragon, and fighting types, some of the most obnoxious in tourney play), but no real power creep. What mostly happens is the introduction of new type combinations and movesets, which simply shifts the meta, no powercreep.

This is enough to make me keep my distance. There's a Pokemon META GAME! Oh, God. I hate the whole Meta Game bull shit. It's like the tiers in fighting games. It is incredibly boring playing against the same exact strategy time and again. I remember going to Regional tournaments to play cards (not as impressive as it sounds, you just had to walk in and pay an entry fee) and the whole Meta Game got so bad, I could predict my opponent's entire deck based on their first cards played. That is not fun, people!

 

[Zombie_Fish]

This should've totally been called 'Room 151'.

 

[ZexionSephiroth]

This does pose a question. Do the Pokemon regions not have good communication? Did the original region only count the ones that were in that region? Is this a case of Columbus "discovering" new continents?

As I see it... All of the Above... Depending on specific circumstances for specific regions.

For Unova and Kalos, its the Columbus Case, but instead of Columbus finding a horribly under powered level of tech for a nation, this would be him finding a fully developed Society of 31st Century tech. And instead of what's holding back discovery being a fear of things that turn out not to be real so were never a threat (such as the edge of the earth) there turn out to be a real danger of your vehicle of exploration being set on fire by a passing creature you've never seen before.

The Later is basically the reason for the former. Both Societies had ages to develop Technology on their own in isolation via it being dangerous to venture forth, so by the time they get there 10,000 years of civilization has passed independently in both locations, enough time to develop who knows how great a level of Technology, so they find themselves both on High Tech Ground.

Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh have Poor Communication, with Kanto being the Inventors of the Pokedex as they know it so they counted up the Pokemon in their region first.

Powercreep is actually not a problem. There are less things being banned from tournament play with each new generation (since DPPt, anyway). The meta game gets mixed up a bit (BW introduced some highly aggressive play that actually worked in the meta, and XY introduced the fairy type, a new way to counter dark, dragon, and fighting types, some of the most obnoxious in tourney play), but no real power creep. What mostly happens is the introduction of new type combinations and movesets, which simply shifts the meta, no powercreep.

This is enough to make me keep my distance. There's a Pokemon META GAME! Oh, God. I hate the whole Meta Game bull shit. It's like the tiers in fighting games. It is incredibly boring playing against the same exact strategy time and again. I remember going to Regional tournaments to play cards (not as impressive as it sounds, you just had to walk in and pay an entry fee) and the whole Meta Game got so bad, I could predict my opponent's entire deck based on their first cards played. That is not fun, people!

Meta Game...

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Haiku of Silence
I Have No Idea of This
What is this Meta?

Seriously though, I've no idea of how to meta game. I just Throw Together a nice Deck full of Cool Creatures and Cool Magic Effects... And from there just follow my instincts.

... I don't think it works, but since its basically impossible for me to work via Synaptic Causality, I have to instead rely on playing by reading one's intent.

If it were a Time Travel thing... That would be different. I'm Fairly decent at judging Temporal causality, but not the best.

(Oh... And If you're wondering what I mean by my Facetious "Haiku of Silence", that's basically just a thing I made up where one types five periods, then seven, then five... Mimicking a Haiku.)

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Wait... really?

I haven't payed attention since Red/Blue. Are there seriously 700+ of the little bastards running around now?

My thoughts exactly, and that alone is enough to make me keep my distance. Then there is the possibility of powercreep with all these new pokemon. Don't know how bad it is or if it's even a problem, but I don't want to find out.

I do admire pokemon from a marketing perspective, though. Everything in it is designed to sell. The roundness of Pikachu to attract little kids (boys and girls). The fact that the pokemon talk with their names to help kids remember their names. It has to be one of the most clever marketing schemes of all time. Gotta catch'em all, after all.

Possibility? Power creep is a reality with this game. Gen 1, you could only reliably OHKO pokemon with a 4X weakness, not it is very hard for any offensive pokemon to survie three unresisted hits.

To be fair though, this generation seems to be avoiding that with most of the changes (barring mega-evolutions). Some of the moves got power nerfs (surf, thunderbolt, and flamethrower are now only 90 power) fairy types were created to cut down on dragon's dominance, many pokemon this generation are "mighty glacier" types that counter nearly uncounterable threats from last generation, and the faster ones both are frail and don't have that great of attacks. Also, gen 1 was really unbalanced. If you could catch it, you could basically nuke the entire game with Alakazam, who's one "counter" (the ghastly family) actually didn't do anything because of programming errors (ghost type attacks were physical, psychic was immune to ghost, and all gen 1 ghosts had a poison sub type which made them weak to psychic attacks). Gen 1 Mewtwo is the single most powerful pokemon of any generation, bar none. Really, the Uber metagame of Gen 1 was all about "who can survive long enough infront of my enemies Mewto to stun/freeze/sleep/explode on it it and give me an opening sweep with my Mewtwo.

 

[DRTJR]

Powercreep is actually not a problem. There are less things being banned from tournament play with each new generation (since DPPt, anyway). The meta game gets mixed up a bit (BW introduced some highly aggressive play that actually worked in the meta, and XY introduced the fairy type, a new way to counter dark, dragon, and fighting types, some of the most obnoxious in tourney play), but no real power creep. What mostly happens is the introduction of new type combinations and movesets, which simply shifts the meta, no powercreep.

This is enough to make me keep my distance. There's a Pokemon META GAME! Oh, God. I hate the whole Meta Game bull shit. It's like the tiers in fighting games. It is incredibly boring playing against the same exact strategy time and again. I remember going to Regional tournaments to play cards (not as impressive as it sounds, you just had to walk in and pay an entry fee) and the whole Meta Game got so bad, I could predict my opponent's entire deck based on their first cards played. That is not fun, people!

I don't know the card game but the video games but the Pokemon have differing roles that they can preform, like Weather inducers, Physical/Special/Mixed sweepers, Physical/Special tanks, stallers, pranksters, supporters, healers, or Kamikazes. All with different Stats and move pools that can add to a team's synergy. So I'd say their is enough variety in the Pokemanz that you won't see identical teams in every match.

 

[Adventurer2626]

That is absolutely horrifying. I could imagine Nintendo doing this to me if I stopped playing Pokemon. Gotta catch em all, gotta catch em all...can't run, can't stop, have to catch them all. *sobs*

 

[Eggsnham]

Wait... really?

I haven't payed attention since Red/Blue. Are there seriously 700+ of the little bastards running around now?

Yup. To be honest, it's becoming obvious they're running out of ideas.

It's still as addictive as crack though.

EDIT:

Not every Pokemon is in each new installment... they're crazy, not stupid. I believe X and Y only has 200 or so total?

Actually, I'm pretty sure there's something close to 500 in X/Y. Which I'm absolutely fine with, since one of the biggest problems I've had with past Pokemon games was the lack of diversity in Pokemon in different areas.

I remember playing older generations as a kid and running into endless streams of pokemon that I had either already caught, or just didn't want. You still run into a ton of repeats in X/Y, but not nearly as many as in previous games.

 

[Fiairflair]

Incridible. I just finished reading the Ministry of Love scenes in 1984 last night. Then this.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Hahaha, 1984 reference, NICE. XD

I really have to call Oak's credibility into question though. Only 150 he said before, but now we see that was clearly not true...

Unless he meant "150 in this particular region".

 

[Ohlookit'sMatty]

It took me two reads of this, one when it came out and one just now before I got the reference

-M

 

[Biodeamon]

Big Arceus is watching you

 

[gamegod25]

Uh, was this humor? No seriously? Am I meant to openly laugh at this? Or chuckle a little bit and say "that's was kinda clever" or what? I know quality control on the Internet is pretty much non-existant but come on. Really?

It's actually, I believe, a Star Trek reference. Picard was doing a secret mission and was captured by the Cardassian who then tortured and tryed to brain wash him (or something as evil). The first step is to get him to admit that there are 5 lights when in fact there are 4. (youtube picard torture) It's a good episode.

Honestly I thought this was going to turn into a pokemon edition of Saw or Hostel XD