One time, two of my friends were arguing about evolution, and one asked the other, "If people evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?"
That's like when someone was talking to my mom about how satanical Pokemon is and she just looked at them and said 'Dude... they aren't real...' to which he asked 'How do YOU know they're not real?!'MCDeltaT said:My Sister (14): "When I get a pet I'm going to get a dragon"
Me: "Dragon's are fictional"
My Sister: "Yeah, that doesn't mean they aren't real"
That kind of reminds me of when this one girl I know thought that you shouldn't take it in the arse because, apparently, AIDS is now the equivilent of cancer... I was so confused for a second... then wondered 'wait... WAT?'AIDS is not a disease, HIV is, AIDS is a side effect
The above-quoted text demonstrating ignorance of utterly basic science is my candidate for stupidest thing I've read or heard this week, possibly this month.catalyst8 said:"it is often trumpeted as the end all, be all solution for where life came from" The Theory of Evolution doesn't address where life came from, it addresses the diversity of existing life. To misunderstand that is to demonstrate an utter ignorance of both the theory & of basic biology itself. 'Abiogenesis' is the name given to the hypothesis presented by Dr. Szostak (Professor of Genetics at Harvard Medical School & Distinguished Investigator in the Department of Molecular Biology at the Massachusetts General Hospital), who has successfully demonstrated a process where self-catalysing enzymes create replicating hydrocarbon polymer vesicles undergoing mutation.Oh, this should be fun. First off, you've tried to throw this man's logic out the window because he doesn't know about abiogenesis. How mature of you. Second, Dr. Szostak made replicating vesicles, as you put them, but at what point does it become definably life?
"[...] has merit, as a theory and a theory alone." this demonstrates what can only be considered a tragic ignorance of the simplest scientific terminology. In a scientific context a 'theory' is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In common use the word 'theory' actually refers to a hypothesis, a supposition made on the basis of limited evidence. Other theories are the Theory of Gravity, of Electro Magnetism, Copernican Theory (sun at the centre of the solar system), Atomic Theory, Germ Theory, Genetic Theory, Kinetic Theory, etc.See, you went wrong when you named a bunch of easy-to-demonstrate theories as silly, yet lauded a non-proven (I'll get to that in a moment) one as undeniable. For example, if I were to punch you and you were forced back, that's kinetic energy in action. If I threw you across the room and you hit the ground, the theory of gravity. If I spit on you and you got a disease, germ theory. If I threw you into space and you orbited around the sun, bam! Copernicus was right. Yet if I sat here for millenia, punching you, your children, your children's children, etc. I would not see any increased resistance to the pain I inflict.
Evolution is documented in existing species from Italian wall lizards in Pod Mrcaru over the last few decades, the mosquito during the Blitz, to the peppered moth in England during the Industrial Revolution, & to numerous bacterial strains (e.g. Sphingomonas) around the world. Then there are transitional fossils like Proterogyrinus, as well as a wealth of genetic corroboration such as human Ch2 corresponding (even down to the join/splice) to Chs12 & 13 in chimps.Never even heard of Italian wall lizards, and I've debated this with more well-informed men than you. As for the peppered moth, that did not show evolution in any way. The population ratios shifted because birds saw one color easier at given times. At no point did a new species of moth occur. I don't have problems with the similarity part, but choose your words wisely. I could use that same strain of logic to say that since all life is based on carbon, we all came from TREES.
There is no peer-reviewed paper which contradicts Evolution.Ever wonder why that is? I'll give a hint: the scientific community stifles anyone that disagrees with evolution (which you capitalize as if it's your bloody god) and refuses to let any real debate occur.
And you. Stop encouraging this sad fuck. If he's going to be misinformed, he should at least have his not-facts straight.savageoblivi0n said:you sir...win...please take a bow
Well at least she seems able to fucking LOCATE Europe. I talked to a girl once who wasn't even able to accomplish that modest feat and had to ask me for assistance.Drakmeire said:when I got in a 7 minute argument with a girl who claimed Europe was a country and that Britain Spain Germany and every other area in Europe are states. way to go public school system.
Just out of curiosity... what was your point?el_emmens said:It was when I was in an argument with some girl about whether hot water froze faster than cold water
1. But that's the beauty of science. You don't have to actually prove theories, only disprove. As long as there is no opposing evidence or simpler theory the current one stays.Skylane14 said:1. Lack of proof: While natural selection(changes within a species) is a documented and rightly respected theory, grand evolution(such as Darwin's example of a finch turning into an eagle)has no support in actual proof as of yet. It is riddled with "what ifs" and inconsistencies, and I believe that leaves it heavily up for debate.
2. Lack of debate: Evolution could be a much stronger theory, if it were actually discussed on a real level. "Iron sharpens iron". However, whenever detractors come forth, they are simply called ridiculous louts, and have their credibility stripped.
twistedmic" post="18.195864.6290575 said:I don't remember how we got started talking about this, but one of my old co-workers once claimed that AIDS was not a disease, it was a symptom of a disease.
Lol it is a symptom. the disease is HIV(human immunodeficiency virus) look it up.
hmm seems i might have to go with this for my example...yes father...so sorry i have a sense of humor and try to break up tension with it...*rolls eyes*CJ1145 said:And you. Stop encouraging this sad fuck. If he's going to be misinformed, he should at least have his not-facts straight.catalyst8 said:*snip*