Titanfall On PC Will Require Origin

[Euryptus]

As I'd rather strap the corpse of a decomposing plague rat to my PC than install Origin, I guess I'll give Titanfall a pass.

Back to Planetside 2 then.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

At least they're smart enough to offer a beta. That will make it easier for gamers to see if they truly want the game.

 

[not_you]

I wasn't picking this up anyway...

Multiplayer only?
Dedicated server only play?

Yeah, no...

To be fair even if it was on steam I wouldn't buy it...
So, yeah... Not so much an Anti-EA comment as it is Anti-Titanfall...

The last thing I need is another multiplayer only shooter so 12 year olds can call me a noob...

Not that I ever see the appeal in those games anyway...

 

[Sir Shockwave]

The irony here? This is a Source Engine powered game.

Cue Angry Valve X3

 

[Saulkar]

I have also tried sandboxing both Steam and Origin and the latter always gives me errors about trying to access folders that have nothing to do with it that I gave it no permission to access while the former swims pretty.

In summary: Origin throws a tantrum when I sandbox it.

id say this is rather scary as it means Origin is trying to read something it shouldn't supposed to read it, as in, doing exactly what a computer virus would do.

Something to add to that is people keep telling me that that Steam is just as bad. A lot of people (looks like yourself included) do not like steam for being a form of DRM and I can respect that but I keep getting told by others that it is just as invasive and to this date it is never given me the trouble that origin has. It does not fight its sandbox, it asks first if it can send information (humorously it cannot collect most things), has an opt-out function, and has never been identified as a virus by two separate anti-virus programs.

 

[Strazdas]

Something to add to that is people keep telling me that that Steam is just as bad. A lot of people (looks like yourself included) do not like steam for being a form of DRM and I can respect that but I keep getting told by others that it is just as invasive and to this date it is never given me the trouble that origin has. It does not fight its sandbox, it asks first if it can send information (humorously it cannot collect most things), has an opt-out function, and has never been identified as a virus by two separate anti-virus programs.

I dont like DRM, and as such i dont like steam. I also dont like steam based on my experience with it when it was the only game in town. I also dislike steam because it seems that i can no longer buy a game and not have it tied to some shitty third party service.
Steam did collect info about my pc during its "annual survey" BEFORE telling me it did, but asked me if i want to send it and also wanted to know my internet speed. however as far as hardware goes it knew it all. but then again i do like to use standart hardware since i have learn the hardway about not buying "asus designed gpu" that does not have drivers or is even acknowledged by asus themselves.
however i do know that Origin is far worse. This is why i reluctantly use steam for some games however i simply not play the game if its Origin only.

At least they're smart enough to offer a beta. That will make it easier for gamers to see if they truly want the game.

Just like battlefield 4 beta did?

 

[CardinalPiggles]

To take a page from our illustrious Michael Patcher, Saying you won't buy titanfall because it's on Origin is dumb, dumb, dumb.

At some point, legitimate complaints against origin turned into a "LETS HATE ON ORIGIN BECAUSE EA IS LITERALLY HITLER" circlejerk.

Seems like there are as many Devils advocates today as there are people "hating" on EA/Origin. Maybe more in fact.

Anyway, it's not about "hate" for most people, it's about mistrust. The same way people mistrust Microsoft or Ubisoft or Obama or whatever it may be. Hate doesn't even factor into it for most people.

I don't trust EA, I just don't, so therefore I don't trust Origin, not enough to pay money towards the service.

The same way I don't trust Steams Early Access bullshit. The same way I don't trust GoGs "we'll make it run on modern systems" bullshit (because DK2 runs like crap and crashes every 30 minutes or so (although with their new refund policy I can't really complain)).

 

[Slash2x]

In other news water is wet.... Sorry I am good for spyware on my PC EA. Any program that tries to scan the system it is on when you have turned off the program and removed it from the registry as a startup program, and it then just tries running in the background anyway is not for me. I have enough programs already scanning my hard drive when I tell them to!

 

[ecoho]

Thus the reason I kept my free Xbox One to play this game. seriously guys this is why you own a console so when a good game comes out you don't have to wade into the horrors of things like origin.

 

[FoolKiller]

I have nothing against Origin although I am still wary because they had weird scary clauses in their original TOS. My question to anyone currently using it... did they get rid of the clause that said you lose the license if you don't play it for over a year?

 

[Lightknight]

Oh, I hadn't considered that. It makes sense that they'd pull those shenanigans but it isn't worth me installing the origin client.

Damn, I was excited about this one too.

 

[Barbas]

Not the slightest chance, then. I can't stand having that installed on a PC that I worked on with my own hands.

 

[zellosoli]

I don't understand why some people would consider not getting a game just because it's on Origin, considering how easy it is to exit Origin after playing and forget it's on your computer. I dislike EA as much as the next guy, but can missing out on a potentially good game just because it's not on steam be justified by anything other petty fanboyism? What makes you guys lash out so strongly against Origin? I've used it for Battlefield for a few years now and haven't had issues. Feel like I must be missing something.

well ive heard worse arguments between people who prefer ford or holden, chocolate or vanilla, pirates and ninja's and cake and pie.

in my opinion, just chose either steam or origin or both and stress less about what people like and don't like.

me? im not a shooter fan and this hasn't really won me over to start playing it, but that's just me

 

[fix-the-spade]

So.. could anyone explain why this FPS Arena shooter with freerunning is being hailed as the second coming?

From the creators of Call of Duty

That's it, all of it, it's the guys who made Cod1 and spanked Medal of Honor, then made CoD4 and spanked the entire WW2 shooter genre out of existence. As for why that's got everyone hopping up and down, well, people aren't always the brightest.

 

[Colt47]

How is this news? Moreover, how are people even remotely surprised by this?

It's an EA published game, of course it's going to use Origin.

Yeah, it's not surprising to hear. It's still aggravating that publishers refuse to give up on the steam model DRM platform. They don't seem to understand that people tolerate steam only because they came first and most people have games locked up on the system because of it. I've tried playing PC games from multiple companies and it turns into a complete joke with how many different background DRM programs end up running on the computer. Ubisoft has their own, EA has their own, Microsoft had their own, but thankfully seem to be moving to a different system, and then there is steam on top of it all. It's like college dorms and being forced to use some crappy Cisco network security client, only we got three or more of them.

 

[Kotaro]

I was somewhat interested in this game before. Not now.

 

[SFMB]

I'm just wondering, why EA won't release the game also in Steam? Surely, that would make them more money, even if people won't use their Origin-platform. Ubisoft is sadly adding their Uplay, but not trying to make their games available only through their inferior distribution system.
The Origin hate must cost them a lot of money, even if they have calculated tht in some point in the future of an alternative universe, Origin will be looked upon as a go-to-purhasing platform over Steam...

 

[Sanunes]

I'm just wondering, why EA won't release the game also in Steam? Surely, that would make them more money, even if people won't use their Origin-platform. Ubisoft is sadly adding their Uplay, but not trying to make their games available only through their inferior distribution system.
The Origin hate must cost them a lot of money, even if they have calculated tht in some point in the future of an alternative universe, Origin will be looked upon as a go-to-purhasing platform over Steam...

Because of how Valve is demanding DLC be handled on their platform, if you don't sell your DLC through the Valve store they don't want your business.

Honestly people will say EA pulled their games off Steam, but since all older EA games that didn't have any new DLC released after that policy was added is still on Steam, I think Valve pulled all of EA's titles that had new DLC released.

 

[AuronFtw]

I'm just wondering, why EA won't release the game also in Steam? Surely, that would make them more money, even if people won't use their Origin-platform. Ubisoft is sadly adding their Uplay, but not trying to make their games available only through their inferior distribution system.
The Origin hate must cost them a lot of money, even if they have calculated tht in some point in the future of an alternative universe, Origin will be looked upon as a go-to-purhasing platform over Steam...

That's primarily the reason. They're holding out hope that Origin will one day stop sucking and overtake Steam as the DRM/Game Library of Choice for most players. But the problem isn't Origin, the problem is EA. They're a bunch of talentless hacks who represent literally everything that is wrong with the gaming industry right now. They're the first ones in line to fuck over customers for a buck, to implement harsh anti-consumer policies or "required game mechanics" (like how sim city had "required online play" despite, y'know, not) and shove thousands of dollars of low quality, shitty DLC down our throats. More than this, they actively ruin other companies by buying them out, forcing them to make lower quality games or games in genres they're completely unfamiliar with, and when those games end up sucking (big surprise?) they fire the whole dev team and chalk it up as a failed experiment.

This isn't your average group of idiots. They maliciously implement bullshit to make as much profit as they can, at the total expense of the customer. They outright lie, again and again, release incomplete, sub-par products and Origin is still more spyware than most people are able to accept (scroll up to the guy talking about sandboxing).

Comparing that to Steam is honestly ridiculous. It takes a hell of a lot of ignoring/conveniently forgetting company history to even BEGIN to think that Origin/EA is even close to as good/trustworthy as Steam/Valve. Pretty much the closest thing Valve has done to the bullshit EA has pulled is ruin TF2 with godawful hats and buy-only items (I guess if you played L4D hardcore back in the day, you might still be bitter about L4D2 like I am, but it wasn't a direct consumer fuck-over). Their game library service doesn't scan your PC. They've never bought out entire developers, fucked around forcing them to work on stupid projects, and then fired them all. The worst lies Valve tells are about release dates; they don't openly state that their recent release "requires online play" when it obviously doesn't, and continue insisting such for weeks until recanting under community pressure.

The big reason steam succeeded originally, and continues to succeed, is the trust built up with the community. When valve fucks up (which is rare), they're very open and honest about it. They're honest about their work environment, lack of rigid company structure, and what they think about making games. One of the hugest complaints about Steam for a year or two was lack of offline play, and they dove into that problem with both feet to get it solved as quickly as possible, and now that service is nearly flawless. It's obvious they care about the community - both their words and their actions show genuine good intent.

Comparing that company to EA is just silly. EA has lied repeatedly, year after year, even earning worst company of america awards (possibly unwarranted as I can think of a few "worse" companies, but it goes to show how little people think of them and their corporate practices). And EA's actions, time and again, show that they are far more interested in making a buck than earning anyone's trust. Origin is a shitty DRM software by itself, but that's not even the real issue. The issue is the company behind it is not trustworthy at all. And when you're using their DRM service, you are putting your game library in their hands.

Would you seriously rather have EA holding your leash than Valve? If possible, no leash at all would be fantastic - but given the two options, one is obviously superior. Fuck EA.