[Update] Your Pokemon Black & White Starters Could Evolve Like This

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Leemaster777

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Honestly, I don't get all the new pokemon hate. None of the fifth gens I've seen so far look overly bad. The water starter is the only one that causes me to raise an eyebrow, but pokemon has had MUCH worse designed critters than that.

I've been playing since the very beginning, and I grew up with pokemon, so believe me when I say that there were quite a few "gems" in the first two gens. I mean, come on, the new starter look bad, yet somehow Wigglytuff, Hypno, and Jynx don't look goofy? It's nostalgia talking, pure and simple.

But more on topic, I do hope these truly are the final designs. I especially like the grass one, I was hoping he'd look something like that.
 

Snownine

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I must be a different wavelength than everyone else, I don't think the grass one looks all that impressive.
 

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I think the fire evo second stage looks cool but I dont like wotters final form I was hoping for something cooler it just looks fake to me I really hope everything past the second evolution of all of them are fake please god let them be fake
 

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Ciran said:
And why is the grass starter ALWAYS a reptile, can't they get a bit more creative than that?
They've only had one reptile. Bulbasaur was a plant bulb, Chickorita was a leaf, Treeko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a turtle(amphibian, not a reptile).
 

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person427 said:
Ciran said:
And why is the grass starter ALWAYS a reptile, can't they get a bit more creative than that?
They've only had one reptile. Bulbasaur was a plant bulb, Chickorita was a leaf, Treeko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a turtle(amphibian, not a reptile).
Um...no, Bulbasaur was a plant lizard (actually more of some generic reptile, but it was most definitely not just a bulb), Chikorita was a plant dinosaur, Treecko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a tortoise not a turtle, therefore a reptile.

EDIT: Even more evidence that Bulbasaur isn't a bulb is the pokedex entry from the first games: A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokemon.

Therefore proving the being is separate from the plant.
 

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John Funk said:
You need only look at Mijumaru's final evo to know they're fake. First 2 are 2 legged otters. Suddenly, 4 legged furry rat. It's also Dialga's sprite with a horn.

If those were the real evo's, water/fighting wouldn't work because more than half the moves wouldn't be available to it like arm thrust, cross chop, sky uppercut etc.

Pukabu's first evo looks like a luchador, suggesting yet another fire/fight type. They wouldn't bring out a 3rd fire/fight starter in a row unless they seriously wanted to piss off fans.

As for Tsutarja's grass/dragon typing, it wouldn't have that or it would cancel its fire weakness, thus tipping the starter triangle.
 

CRASHiC

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Man you guys are gullable
Before we begin, please refer to this charecter sheet.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
please compare the dragon and the bat to their revealed forms. You'll see that every detail down to the shading is perfectly insynch.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

Here's another one.


Also, these gifs are coming to you from Suave Squirtal from the Serebii forms.



Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/2ch,_others_leak_heap_of_Black_and_White_info
See the big unconfirmed and rumour things on there? Bulbagarden's staff are mixed in opinion on this one at the moment. We're reporting on it simply because a number of sites have been running it as confirmed, but I'm personally leaning towards false right now.

Here's the low-down on why this is all up in the air.
1. When our staff were discussing this with the staff of other sites, they said they got this info from an inside source. If they got it from someone separate to Melkor of PokExperto, then the question is who, and how reliable they are as a source. They're refusing to reveal exactly who these sources are.

2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

3. Melkor did get a big scoop with the previous generation in getting a full list of the new Pokémon names well before release (apparently from the same source Serebii had, they had a huge fight on the issue back then as I remember), which gives this a bit more credibility than it might have had otherwise.

4. The instant that these got out, multiple people were already claiming that they were fake and that they had been the ones to fake them, including different pictures of inspirations, etc.
Also, some more gifs














Now excuse me while I tear apart your sources
The pokemon fansite from Spain is the main cause of all this. He allegedly has "insider information" and once claimed to have the full game via his twitter. He posted this image:


1. The HP on the final forum of pokabu is lower than that of pokabu.
2. The names are wrong and belong to already existing pokemon
3. This screen shot belongs to a previously linked screen shot.
4. After the obvious fake was pointed out, this was deleted off of his twitter. However you can still see his website in the background.

There are other issues with his site and his alleged source, and I question as to why he won't show his sprites in private to Bulbapedia. His "confirmed" typings also differentiate between the ones leaked by 2chan that came with the images. Basically I'm calling this guy a liar.

What about Serebii, the "source who is never wrong." Hahahaa, you guys don't know him. Serebii posted that Arceus wasn't real. He then would delete any post to anyone who brough him up on the site when signs started to point towards him being true. Serebii was also NOT ONLY WRONG about Shaymin's alternative form BUT CLAIMED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SOURCE. This is not the only time Serebii has faked having an "inside source." He was triced by someone into thinking that Shellos was a prevo too Lapras by an "inside source"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin

Serebii is a sociopath who strives to have the best pokemon fan site whatever the cost.
So, with our only two sources lacking in serious validity, and the art itself having HUGE problems, both from a manipulation point, as well as having HUGE basic artistic mistakes, I believe we can safely call these fake. Good day gentlemen.
 

Soxafloppin

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This game would break my pattern of ALLWAYS picking the fire type, I'd go for the Grass.
 

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Ciran said:
Um...no, Bulbasaur was a plant lizard (actually more of some generic reptile, but it was most definitely not just a bulb), Chikorita was a plant dinosaur, Treecko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a tortoise not a turtle, therefore a reptile.

EDIT: Even more evidence that Bulbasaur isn't a bulb is the pokedex entry from the first games: A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokemon.

Therefore proving the being is separate from the plant.
person427 said:
Ciran said:
And why is the grass starter ALWAYS a reptile, can't they get a bit more creative than that?
They've only had one reptile. Bulbasaur was a plant bulb, Chickorita was a leaf, Treeko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a turtle(amphibian, not a reptile).
Turtles are reptiles.
The ability to be on land and in water makes them amphibious, not amphibians.

And it doesn't matter if they've had a lot of reptiles, they've all been adequately different from each other. This new one is no different, and besides, its easy to relate reptilian creatures to grass and trees and stuff.
 

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All I can say is I'm glad I stopped playing those games after Fire Red/Leaf Green.
 

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Wahful said:
This game would break my pattern of ALLWAYS picking the fire type, I'd go for the Grass.
I was thinking much the same.
Although Whilst I thought the water type looked retarded at first. I really Really want it now!
 

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The pig was the only one I actully like, but if that is what he evolves into, then naw. I like the grass types finally evoltion and to a degree the waters.

S
 

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Space Jawa said:
I now laugh at everyone who hated the Otter before they saw its evolved forms!
I hated it then I hate it now.

It just confuses me more is all.
 

Kyman102

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Look, people complaining about Pokemon Black and White. Please, do us all a favor.

Shut up. Stop decrying about how Pokemon has sucked since Red and Blue, stop obsessively rushing around forums speculating about these games to tell us how much they suck, and stop telling us how those of us looking forward to this game are stupid. Just shut up, nobody cares.

You're entitled to your opinions. I know that not everybody likes fifth gen. And, well, I'm sure most of us who still enjoy Pokemon just don't care. And frankly, I'd enjoy Pokemon discussions more if I didn't have to rake through people BAWing like some kind of Final Fantasy fanboy upset at the fact that Square-Enix DARED to make a game that wasn't FFVII.

So, if you hate it, don't buy it. I for one love the design for the Grass final evolution, and I enjoy the Water final form. I'm going to buy one of these games, and I'm going to play it, sink HOURS into it, and have a lot of fun. As will millions of other fans who are willing to enjoy this game.

So, please, if you don't think you'll like Pokemon Black and White... Just shut up.
 

smithy_2045

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The fire dude's evolutions look like ass. And I thought Infernape was bad...

Apart from that, me likey.
 

havass

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OH SHIII-
I agree. I take back anything I ever said about that sad panda. Still, the grass type's catching my eye. Looks very..serene and majestic.
Cowabungaa said:
Nintendo, I am disappoint. I imagined the fire piglet Pokemon evolve in something like this:

But ON FIRE!!!
I imagined this too. o.o
Not some weird, two-legged dude with overgrown arms. And the middle stage looks like crap.