Warcraft Romance Ends With Felony Charges

[Nieroshai]

Victimless crime much?

In this case what you say kind of applies, but this excuse is growing old. Victimless crime? The only reason any law is on the books is because the government ddoesn't want it to happen. Victims don't factor into it. Oftenn that is the motive for making somethiing illegal, but a crime is anything the government deems bad for society at large.

But how can it be bad for the society at large that any two people have consentual sex?(Not factoring in STDs since that isnt the question here)


Is it right to punish lovers just because the law condemns them?

One thing that even bothers me about the gay rights debate's phrasing is this. There is no right to gay sex. There is no right to underage sex. There is no right to bestial sex. Do you know why? Because there is no right to sex at all! You are free to associate as you will, but there is absolutely no governmental protection of any form of sexuality whatsoever, only that you cannot hire or fire anyone based on it. There is no right to have a lover. There's a right to marry, but only because the governmment controls marriage. And thhe government could easily decide tomorrow that only married couples can have sex, although no one'd be stupid enough to pass that bill beecause of public outcry. Sex is not a right. There's a thread for this, but I couldn't find it in SEARCH. Rights are what the government says you can have, not what the government doesn't say you can't have.

 

[Risingblade]

Awesome just awesome xD

 

[Rubashov]

You are free to associate as you will,

Sex is a form of association.

 

[Deadpool062]

Alright lets do this. AAAAANNNGIIEEEE JEEEEENNNKIIINS

 

[ImprovizoR]

I don't think she should be charged. The kid wanted to have sex, so it's not like he was raped or anything. That's just how teenage boys are. 16? All that dude can think about is sex. I remember, I was 16 once.

 

[Mikeyfell]

Statutory rape is a dumb law
(don't misread that)
Rape should be illegal no matter what
in fact rapists should be shot on site
but consensual sex shouldn't have some arbitrary number attached to it.

yes, 18 for sex is just as arbitrary as 16 for driving and 21 for drinking.

or at least make the arbitrary number a little less arbitrary, like 13, that's when everyone's hormones turn on

and I'm still talking about consensual sex not some 40 year old who lures kids into his van with the promise of candy.
I just mean 2 people who say "I love you" "I love you too" "let's do it" or "you're hot" "you're also hot" "let's do it"

there's no reason to put an age on that.

It's called closeness in age exemptions.

So you're saying it should be legal for a 30 year old to have sex with a 13 year old?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding you.

I don't know if America has closeness in age exemptions. it might, but I don't know

If the 30 year old tricked the 13 year old into it, no
but I'm pretty sure tricking an 18 year old into sex is rape as well

if they both know what was going on
sure
but how many 13 year olds would wantsex with a 30 year old?

I think (at least by 2010 standards) a 13 year old would have a pretty good idea of what sex is. and whether or not they wanted it. because of the internet

It's not a great idea. because it's based on people using morals and common sense. so a better idea would be putting something like an amendment to the Statutory rape law saying if the minor in question said they gave consent all charges would be dropped. lets go with that .

there really isn't any difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old
having been 17 less than a year ago I think I'm right.
there's no switch in your mind that tells you to act like an adult
most people I know stopped maturing at 14

 

[ph0b0s123]

Well, what I take out of this is, the 16 year old is lucky lol

Victimless crime much?

16 is minor in the US? Aw man that sucks!
Im pretty sure both parties went away happy though so its all just looks like a fussy mess.
I would give him a 'bro fist' =D

For all of you kids out there playing World of Warcraft, be vigilant. That cute Night Elf that is totally into you may actually be a mother in her mid-thirties. You probably shouldn't meet them in a parking lot.

Are you serious with this? Some 16-year old gets laid through WoW and you're marching out the "Won't someone think of the children?" bullshit?
I'm done with you, man.

Quick straw poll for those in the 'yay good for him camp'. I am interested in how young he would have had to have been, to get a 'yuck, just worng' response universally. 15, 14, 13? I'm not saying the comments are wrong as where I live the age is 16 so I am biased about this story anyway. I just am interested in where peoples tolerances are at for a boy getting lucky.

Also are the South Park guys right? If the genders were reversed, how old would the girl need to be before we did not think it was wrong, 18, 20, 21?

If our reactions are sexist should the law on this be as well, with different laws for boys and girls? Or do we need to adjust our yuck reactions to be less sexist?

 

[coldfrog]

This is too hot on the heels of someone I indirectly know through wow (my girlfriend was in her guild) for it to not be the case. She was in the guild with this girl who was hitting on a guy in the same guild. She had several kids (don't know the exact number) but they were chatting a lot. Then recently they met each other, and no one really said what happened (of course my girlfriend only had as much as hearsay about it), but both of them were really pissed off, they stopped talking to anyone in the guild (which broke up shortly after) and now that girl hasn't been on in a while.

It's kinda weird.

 

[Mikeyfell]

Statutory rape is a dumb law
(don't misread that)
Rape should be illegal no matter what
in fact rapists should be shot on site
but consensual sex shouldn't have some arbitrary number attached to it.

yes, 18 for sex is just as arbitrary as 16 for driving and 21 for drinking.

or at least make the arbitrary number a little less arbitrary, like 13, that's when everyone's hormones turn on

and I'm still talking about consensual sex not some 40 year old who lures kids into his van with the promise of candy.
I just mean 2 people who say "I love you" "I love you too" "let's do it" or "you're hot" "you're also hot" "let's do it"

there's no reason to put an age on that.

A 16 year old girl and a 22 year old guy?
Gross.
But the thing is that we all know that these guys that go for the younger girls very often just have sex with them and leave.
Why? Because most of them are assholes.
So yeah laws exist for a reason and this would be like saying that stealing is immoral, then comming with the arguement that "stealing is right if your poor".
Really you should think how guys think, they will say "I love you" just to have sex with you.

good point. but think about this
if it was legal for that 22 year old to sleep with that 16 year old he could pretend to be nice to her until she puts out then dump her
instead of him rapping her on the street and hoping she didn't get a good look at his face

it's better for both of them.
besides legal people already do that to other legal people

and I also came up with a better solution if you care
amend the statutory rape law so if the minor says they gave consent all charges are dropped.

when you turned 18 were you any more mature than when you were 17?
I doubt it.

It's just an arbitrary law "you can't have sex until you can buy cigarettes"
I've never met an 18 year old who was more mature, or better able to make decisions than a 17 year old.
so why put the line there?

 

[Seydaman]

Well
So the woman is married? Or a single mother?
Making the accurate guess that she's a single mother I don't think age should define a relationship, IMO feeling for each other are enough, although it's possible that the teenager was just thinking "Sex? AWESOME." rather than any sort of romance. But meh, I still find the rape law retarded (Even if two parties consent to sex it's illegal under a certain age, which I find against the whole "Lets be a free country" thing.

 

[Badger Kyre]

How the hell did the FBI get involved in that?

Is the FBI monitoring WoW chat?
Did a WoW Gamemaster knock on the car window?
Did the police found them during the tank&spank session?

And most of all: Show me pics of that woman!!!

The article said no one was sure how the police got involved, much less the FBI.

As to the epic cougar mount, she's my Avatar for today. There were more pics earlier in the thread, including a link to her facebook pics where sho' nuff she claims to be 21.

 

[Seydaman]

Victimless crime much?

And this.

 

[SimuLord]

Mage I'd Like to F---?

 

[Levitas1234]

Old news is very old

 

[samsonguy920]

All things considered, would it seriously have killed her to wait 2 years?

 

[theSovietConnection]

16 is perfectly legal in England, you fussy Americans.

The FBI needs to realise the so called victim is probably quite pleased with all this, no-one cares.

Same situation in Canada, that boy is perfectly legal in getting seduced/seducing a 35 year old mother of five. Was anyone really hurt here?

 

[Canid117]

Cougar... for the kid anyway. Or maybe a Milf. I demand pictures!

How the hell did the FBI get involved in that?

Is the FBI monitoring WoW chat?
Did a WoW Gamemaster knock on the car window?
Did the police found them during the tank&spank session?

And most of all: Show me pics of that woman!!!

The kid probably told his friends who told their parents who called the feds. Or there was a security camera watching that parking lot... I'll just let that thought sink in and you can get whatever reaction you want out of it depending on the kind of person you are.

 

[The Stonker]

Statutory rape is a dumb law
(don't misread that)
Rape should be illegal no matter what
in fact rapists should be shot on site
but consensual sex shouldn't have some arbitrary number attached to it.

yes, 18 for sex is just as arbitrary as 16 for driving and 21 for drinking.

or at least make the arbitrary number a little less arbitrary, like 13, that's when everyone's hormones turn on

and I'm still talking about consensual sex not some 40 year old who lures kids into his van with the promise of candy.
I just mean 2 people who say "I love you" "I love you too" "let's do it" or "you're hot" "you're also hot" "let's do it"

there's no reason to put an age on that.

A 16 year old girl and a 22 year old guy?
Gross.
But the thing is that we all know that these guys that go for the younger girls very often just have sex with them and leave.
Why? Because most of them are assholes.
So yeah laws exist for a reason and this would be like saying that stealing is immoral, then comming with the arguement that "stealing is right if your poor".
Really you should think how guys think, they will say "I love you" just to have sex with you.

good point. but think about this
if it was legal for that 22 year old to sleep with that 16 year old he could pretend to be nice to her until she puts out then dump her
instead of him rapping her on the street and hoping she didn't get a good look at his face

it's better for both of them.
besides legal people already do that to other legal people

and I also came up with a better solution if you care
amend the statutory rape law so if the minor says they gave consent all charges are dropped.

when you turned 18 were you any more mature than when you were 17?
I doubt it.

It's just an arbitrary law "you can't have sex until you can buy cigarettes"
I've never met an 18 year old who was more mature, or better able to make decisions than a 17 year old.
so why put the line there?

You don't realize that we must think for all of the teenagers how most of them think.
Well my experience is that most of them are pretty vile and stupid
But that's just me I guess, the thing is that people that wouldn't do this sort of thing normally would if they got the legal window to do so.
Now have you ever talked to a rape victim? I got about 2 friends that where raped and abused by their boyfriends who were in fact about 5 years older then they were.
Now we wouldn't see a rate in rape fall down because we would allow that, hell no.
Most rapists rape because they want power, they want to humiliate people.
While the creepy perverts down in Cinemax just want to get in your little sisters panties.

 

[iLikeHippos]

Lol that lucky deuce.

I play on the EU realms of WoW so the best "love affair" I could scratch up would be an Italian girl with pubes stretching up her panties.

.... Not good, no. : /