What conspiracy theories do YOU believe?
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Actually it's very possible. How much do people know about anything the SEAL teams do? If they're all "patriots" they'll carry that story (and many others) to their graves. The tech has been around since the 90's. If you've ever seen FX2, there's a life sized clown that is remote controlled by a guy in a suit. I read up on it in Popular Science and they just mentioned that it was an actual device used by the US Air Force to test pilot jet fighters from the ground. As there was a paramedics conference happening at the time, bringing something that looked like a hi-tech "Annie" doll onto an airplane wouldn't be conspicuous. Oh and conviently if you check out any close ups on the second airplane, there's a door open by the pilots cabin. So they had motive, ability and opportunity. That and it took forever to stage evidence against people on the planes, not to mention that the staged evidence was obviously staged. Who goes on a suicide mission and leave their van in long term parking, then leave an orgy of evidence in it? Okay I stop. Now.Agayek said:
Indocternation theory (lol Mass Effect 3)
Illuminates owning half of the united states business
and Templars.
Also, Aliens
Illuminates owning half of the united states business
and Templars.
Also, Aliens
You're right in that the SEAL teams won't say a word. The rest of this is questionable at best.Nimzabaat said:
First, why would the pilots of the plane go along with it? They'd be killing themselves and few hundred other innocent people for no appreciable benefit for anyone in their monkeysphere. If they weren't in on it, how'd the perps get their robot set up on the plane in a position to pilot it? Keep in mind this would also require the hijackers to be on the plane and killing themselves as well. Which also utterly defeats the point of having the robot in the first place. And before you say they jumped out, remember that that wouldn't stop anyone on the plane from rushing into the cockpit and removing the robot.
Second, what the hell does an open door in the pilot's cabin have to do with anything? You'll need to provide more context as to where/when/what you're talking about.
Finally, has it not occurred to you that the people actually flying the planes were the expendable ones? By virtue of that, we can safely conclude they weren't the sharpest tool in the shed. It's far more likely they were incompetent than the government was hyper-competent. Once you've had to deal with people more you'll quickly realize that the average person is a complete retard (and yes, this does apply to both you and myself). Whenever you're shown two possibilities, the one that requires someone to fuck something up is almost always the correct explanation.
Besides that, my point was never that it's not physically possible for people to hijack a couple of planes and slam them into a building. My point is that people are simply not competent enough to do it and leave absolutely no evidence. If the government was behind 9/11, we would know about it. Someone would blab, or the forensics teams would find the robot you mentioned, or any of a billion other things, and there would be concrete evidence for it. It's a simple fact that humans are not perfect, and as a consequence, they fuck up. Planning and executing an engineered 9/11, with absolutely no evidence leading back to them, means they executed it perfectly.
If you think such a large operation is capable of perfection.... well the only thing I can say to that is that I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
On the very slim chance that you're not a troll, here's how the scenario would run if I were told to plan it. Please bear in mind that we're talking about conspiracy theories. The theory I have run with just happens to match the facts. Also keep in mind that the plan did actually work. So saying that nobody could plan this thing perfectly is just silly.
Okay four guys per plane. Step one take control of the pilots cabin and barricade it (that happened). Install remote control device. Exit airplane (whether with the pilots own parachutes or with smugglers rigs). Remote pilot airplane into target. The amount of damage in the crash makes it impossible to determine if passengers were missing. It is worth noting that it was only 75% successful. The passengers broke into the pilots cabin on one plane and that plane immediately crashed. Whether it was already being remotely piloted of if that particular team died is impossible to determine (okat if that's how it went down i'm sure somebody knows). Anyways that's how I would have planned that operation if I was told to. It's actually really simple to execute.
Now. Done.
Okay four guys per plane. Step one take control of the pilots cabin and barricade it (that happened). Install remote control device. Exit airplane (whether with the pilots own parachutes or with smugglers rigs). Remote pilot airplane into target. The amount of damage in the crash makes it impossible to determine if passengers were missing. It is worth noting that it was only 75% successful. The passengers broke into the pilots cabin on one plane and that plane immediately crashed. Whether it was already being remotely piloted of if that particular team died is impossible to determine (okat if that's how it went down i'm sure somebody knows). Anyways that's how I would have planned that operation if I was told to. It's actually really simple to execute.
Now. Done.
Again, I never said they couldn't pull it off. I said they couldn't pull it off and leave no evidence of their involvement behind. Something, somewhere would slip up and reveal their hand. Anything else requires an absolutely perfect execution, which is just this side of impossible when you have more than 1-2 people involved.Nimzabaat said:
This explanation raises 2 questions you're not addressing:Nimzabaat said:
1) Why did the passengers not break into the pilot's cabin after the attackers left the plane? There is no way to get out of a commercial aircraft from the pilot cabin, and so the passengers would know the attackers have left. Anyone with half a brain would then go into the cockpit and try to stop the plane from crashing, which would inevitably mean removing the remote control device.
The only other explanation is that at least one of the team stayed behind to pilot the plane, and there's not many people that suicidal.
2) Where's the wreckage of the remote control? It'd have to be large enough to actually manipulate the controls, and that means something would have been left when they investigated the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crashes, if not the WTC planes.
Basically what it comes down to is that you are convinced the government is both diabolical enough and competent enough to pull this off without any evidence of their involvement being left behind. You also have to realize that if there was a massive government conspiracy, anyone who ratted on them would be an immediate international celebrity on a scale I can barely imagine. Everyone in the first world would know their name, and that they revealed one of the most complicated, powerful and frankly terrifying organizations in modern memory. They'd be able to milk that for a gravy train for the rest of their lives.
The fact that no one has done so means either no one in the conspiracy is corrupt (which is unlikely since such a conspiracy is fueled entirely by corruption) or that it never happened
Occam's Razer means it's almost certainly the latter. The former is possible, but on roughly the same probabilistic level as a rabid baboon spontaneously clawing its way out of my ass.
I believe the brits had a hand in sinking the Lusitania.
If your not familiar with that. It was pretty much the reason the U.S. joined WW1
The U.S. was supplying Britain during the war and while sending boats over the Germans would of course sink them.
So the U.S. and Germany made a deal that they wouldn't sink a neutral ship carrying passengers.
We still wanted to supply the allies though.
So we would send boats flying a neutral flag and would have the top 3 decks be passengers and the bottom decks would have the supplies.
So the Lusitania appears to be a passenger ship flying a neutral flag. Of course it had ammunition on the bottom decks.
The captain of the Lusitania got a report of German U-boats in the area. When you are in U-Boat areas the captain is suppose to set a zig-zag course at a much higher speed. He did the opposite, went in a straight line and decreased speed.
*a fast zig-zaging ship is very hard to line a torpedo up on.
The Germans ( apparently on to our sneaky way of supplying allies ) shot a single torpedo at the Lusitania.
Survivors claim to have heard 3 explosions...
We have sent robots down to investigate it and know there was one torpedo that hit and the part that it hit should have been able to have compartments seal it off and the boat should have been able to limp into port.
Also the last thing the central powers wanted was for America to join the war.
The theory is the captain was a British spy who intentionally made the ship more vulnerable. Also there was another British spy who planted dynamite in certain areas of the ship that would guarantee the boat sinking.
Later news reports came out talking about how the Germans killed a boat full of American civilians. Needless to say, the people demanded war.
So when you hear yanks say "we saved your asses in two world wars!" just know that you forced us to do it the first time.
If your not familiar with that. It was pretty much the reason the U.S. joined WW1
The U.S. was supplying Britain during the war and while sending boats over the Germans would of course sink them.
So the U.S. and Germany made a deal that they wouldn't sink a neutral ship carrying passengers.
We still wanted to supply the allies though.
So we would send boats flying a neutral flag and would have the top 3 decks be passengers and the bottom decks would have the supplies.
So the Lusitania appears to be a passenger ship flying a neutral flag. Of course it had ammunition on the bottom decks.
The captain of the Lusitania got a report of German U-boats in the area. When you are in U-Boat areas the captain is suppose to set a zig-zag course at a much higher speed. He did the opposite, went in a straight line and decreased speed.
*a fast zig-zaging ship is very hard to line a torpedo up on.
The Germans ( apparently on to our sneaky way of supplying allies ) shot a single torpedo at the Lusitania.
Survivors claim to have heard 3 explosions...
We have sent robots down to investigate it and know there was one torpedo that hit and the part that it hit should have been able to have compartments seal it off and the boat should have been able to limp into port.
Also the last thing the central powers wanted was for America to join the war.
The theory is the captain was a British spy who intentionally made the ship more vulnerable. Also there was another British spy who planted dynamite in certain areas of the ship that would guarantee the boat sinking.
Later news reports came out talking about how the Germans killed a boat full of American civilians. Needless to say, the people demanded war.
So when you hear yanks say "we saved your asses in two world wars!" just know that you forced us to do it the first time.
Michael Jackson's kids may not actually be his own, because he was chemically castrated in youth. Possibly this castration was an accident, caused by an over-application of a now-banned acne cream.
Castration would explain a few things about Jackson, not least among them his never-changing high voice.
I don't know. It makes sense to me, but I guess we'll never know, seeing as he's dead now.
Castration would explain a few things about Jackson, not least among them his never-changing high voice.
I don't know. It makes sense to me, but I guess we'll never know, seeing as he's dead now.
I believe the following:
Jesus never existed
George Washington grew pot and probably smoked it
The United States lost the War of 1812
The United States plans to conquer Canada
U.S. special forces are active in Mexico
The Biblical Exodus never happened
Biochips are actually quite cool
Ronald Reagan was a firm believer in UFOs
The husband of Michele Bachman is an ass bandit
The character of Jesus was gay
It's a great idea to drill a hole in your head
Sarah Palin did not give birth to little Trig
The U.S. occupation of Hawai'i is illegal
A UFO crashed at Roswell
These are detailed at http://theoriesofconspiracy.com/category/guest-theorists/timothy-chilman
Other things mentioned are how Prince William is the anti-Christ, the sex life of Adolf Hitler, how the Kama Sutra is actually not very good, pubic shaving, how the U.S. military is crap, the coups planned for the United States in 1933 and the United Kingdom in 1975, Task Force Orange, the threat of cyberwar by China, the internet in China, spontaneous human combustion, how biochips are actually quite cool, how The Da Vinci Code was a load of crap, Ronald Reagan's obsession with UFOs, the circumcision conspiracy, Michael Jackson conspiracy theories (including the one about his being a castrato), and funky cannabis anecdotes.
Jesus never existed
George Washington grew pot and probably smoked it
The United States lost the War of 1812
The United States plans to conquer Canada
U.S. special forces are active in Mexico
The Biblical Exodus never happened
Biochips are actually quite cool
Ronald Reagan was a firm believer in UFOs
The husband of Michele Bachman is an ass bandit
The character of Jesus was gay
It's a great idea to drill a hole in your head
Sarah Palin did not give birth to little Trig
The U.S. occupation of Hawai'i is illegal
A UFO crashed at Roswell
These are detailed at http://theoriesofconspiracy.com/category/guest-theorists/timothy-chilman
Other things mentioned are how Prince William is the anti-Christ, the sex life of Adolf Hitler, how the Kama Sutra is actually not very good, pubic shaving, how the U.S. military is crap, the coups planned for the United States in 1933 and the United Kingdom in 1975, Task Force Orange, the threat of cyberwar by China, the internet in China, spontaneous human combustion, how biochips are actually quite cool, how The Da Vinci Code was a load of crap, Ronald Reagan's obsession with UFOs, the circumcision conspiracy, Michael Jackson conspiracy theories (including the one about his being a castrato), and funky cannabis anecdotes.
I honestly can't tell how many people here are joking and how many are deadly serious.
I once knew a guy who believed the streams of jet exhaust in the sky was mind-control gas, so you'll forgive me if I cant tell which of you are joking.
I once knew a guy who believed the streams of jet exhaust in the sky was mind-control gas, so you'll forgive me if I cant tell which of you are joking.
Hmmm I may unintentionally offend some people, so sorry if I do. And theres quite a few that I believe or at least like to read about.
9/11 was orchestrated and carried out by the American government. Bin Laden was a huge patsy, he has a lot in common with harvey lee oswald both were trained by the cia. Now I'm not saying he had nothing to do with 9/11, he did. But he was used as a face for blame. the US government put him there. Also the third tower was a demolision. And the reason was simply oil and power.
JFK was assassinated by the government, he wasn't playing ball for the people behind him. Nixon had a hell of a lot to do with it.
The Jonestown Massacre was a cover-up of brain-washing or mindcontroll experiments.
The MKULTRA Programme.
Johnny Gosch was kidnapped by a child sex ring for the powerful.
I love a good conspiracy
9/11 was orchestrated and carried out by the American government. Bin Laden was a huge patsy, he has a lot in common with harvey lee oswald both were trained by the cia. Now I'm not saying he had nothing to do with 9/11, he did. But he was used as a face for blame. the US government put him there. Also the third tower was a demolision. And the reason was simply oil and power.
JFK was assassinated by the government, he wasn't playing ball for the people behind him. Nixon had a hell of a lot to do with it.
The Jonestown Massacre was a cover-up of brain-washing or mindcontroll experiments.
The MKULTRA Programme.
Johnny Gosch was kidnapped by a child sex ring for the powerful.
I love a good conspiracy
Man I love a good Bin Laden conspiracy story.saoirse13 said:
He was a Saudi Prince and the son of construction magnate banished due to speaking out against U.S troops being allowed to be stationed near the holy land at Mecca. He travelled to Afghanistan and the Sudan to teach people how to farm the land and build roads. He then fought with the mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviets in the 80's - but it's debatable if he ever had CIA funding or training.
It was reported from numerous places that he was suffering from kidney faliure and was consigned to a wheelchair, even having operations for this in Pakistani hospitals. If he managed to escape the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 then he probably died in a hospital bed.
Bin Laden is like a terrorism franchise - He's not the main guy just the face. I think he was pretty much an obsolete figure in Al Qaeda since the 90's and a faked death by U.S special forces is a handy propoganda tool.
Sorry to nerd your ear off. =)
Exactly! With no body and no evidence other than what the Government told us.saoirse13 said:
You'd be a fool to believe it and even more foolish to think his 'death' meant anything.
"Old," or merely fully formed and mature. I'm personally absolutely convinced that "consciousness causes collapse" in quantum theory pretty much states that there must always be someone or something to observe any and all possibilities in order for any of those infinite possibilities to happen. Then again, it has been a while, so I may be off, but to me it sounds like there must have been some observer to the beginning of the universe.Hero in a half shell said:
Of course, now I'm going to get a thousand quotes as to why my understanding of quantum theory is fatally flawed. As I inferred, my research was by far not Masters-level and took place 3 years ago.
I believe only in the ones that can be provable. They have to be small conspiracies right off the start.
If someone tells me that the CIA was instrumental in overthrowing X dictator somewhere in the world, I would believe that. The CIA has done that in the past, so it would be plausible they are still doing it now.
If you tell me politicians have used some of their political clout to make problems go away, I believe that as well. Chappaquiddick Bridge comes to mind.
If you tell me that movie companies are sitting on ready to be viewed movies, I'd believe that as well. I know they do that as common practice.
Where I stop believing in conspiracies is when they become more complicated than that.
I do not buy the JFK assassination theory.
I do not think 9/11 was an inside job.
I think FEMA Camps are BS.
I do not believe in illuminati conspiracies, reptoid overlords the NWO or the governments all over the world are using religion to cover up the truth of aliens (old high school teacher believes that).
I also believed that if the Conspiracy is real, the people running it are ineffective pencil pushers at best, incompetent buffoons at worse, or extremely complacent at all times. They are the most powerful organization in the world and at best they use their power to maintain the status quo. If their master goal is to turn most people into sheeple, then why group up in the first place?
do something with the power you have. Use their technology to turn people into mind puppets and have 10 percent of the worldwide population walk to the nearest ocean and drown ourselves. Turn 1 percent of us into Bear Grylls.
If someone tells me that the CIA was instrumental in overthrowing X dictator somewhere in the world, I would believe that. The CIA has done that in the past, so it would be plausible they are still doing it now.
If you tell me politicians have used some of their political clout to make problems go away, I believe that as well. Chappaquiddick Bridge comes to mind.
If you tell me that movie companies are sitting on ready to be viewed movies, I'd believe that as well. I know they do that as common practice.
Where I stop believing in conspiracies is when they become more complicated than that.
I do not buy the JFK assassination theory.
I do not think 9/11 was an inside job.
I think FEMA Camps are BS.
I do not believe in illuminati conspiracies, reptoid overlords the NWO or the governments all over the world are using religion to cover up the truth of aliens (old high school teacher believes that).
I also believed that if the Conspiracy is real, the people running it are ineffective pencil pushers at best, incompetent buffoons at worse, or extremely complacent at all times. They are the most powerful organization in the world and at best they use their power to maintain the status quo. If their master goal is to turn most people into sheeple, then why group up in the first place?
do something with the power you have. Use their technology to turn people into mind puppets and have 10 percent of the worldwide population walk to the nearest ocean and drown ourselves. Turn 1 percent of us into Bear Grylls.
I've never believed the 9/11 conspiracy theory. I mean what's more believable, That the govt that couldn't hide a president's happy ending managed to pull off the most complex and politically charged conspiracy in history, with no-one talking out at all or slipping up, or that it was a bunch of grumpy middle-eastern men with box cutters and pilots training?
lol maybe for Europe, but I can't imagine Asia(and by Asia I mean West-Asia[The Middle-East], and East/South-East Asia) becoming one group. Seriously Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan and China hold on to the past to strongly for that to happen. Also, Sunni's and Shiites are not going to come together any time soon.MammothBlade said: