I can appreciate feeling like it's a "cop-out" to pick them. On this forum, it's likely to be a common choice. (though probably out-numbered by people swooning over Obisidian, Bioware, or Bethesda)Signa said:I say that because they've taken to being a retail store more and more. That doesn't diminish my love for what they do and how they do it, but we are talking about developers here, and Valve hasn't developed a game that I'm ecstatic for in years. Portal 2 was great, but it had its flaws. I don't give a shit about CS:GO, and L4D was amazing while it still held my interest, but I'm really bored with it now. TF2 is about the only game I play by them these days.Vigormortis said:I'm curious. What makes you say this?Signa said:Then there is Valve, but it's hard to call them a dev these days.
I hear that argument a lot around here and it's always perplexed me.
So yeah, that and it feels like a cop-out answering Valve in a question like this. Of course Valve is my favorite company/developer/publisher/retailer/social media network... They do too much.
Hey, Nintendo. What took you so long?Mr.Mattress said:Nintendo - Nintendo always has a special place in my heart. Without them, I would never have played video games (I grew up an N64-Gamecube kid). Yes, the Wii is dumb, but that's besides the Point. Nintendo has almost always made good games (Especially the main Mario and Legend of Zelda Games series), with a few exceptions. Nintendo is a veteran game maker, and one of the strongest modern day video game companies on the earth. The WiiU is looking great! And the fact that they saved Bayonetta from dying is very Valve-ish in my eyes (Even if people don't support it).
Well, I'm probably the wrong one to ask about those feelings anyway. Generally speaking, I don't complain about their release cycle. I get the feeling that those that do are just wanting HL3 or episode 3 or something, and instead we get 2 Left 4 Deads, 2 Portals, constant updates to TF2, and a fan remake of their first game in HD quality all before the next iteration is even announced. If I cared at all what they were doing on a day-to-day basis, and finding it had nothing to do with Half-Life, I'd be pissed too.Vigormortis said:I can appreciate feeling like it's a "cop-out" to pick them. On this forum, it's likely to be a common choice. (though probably out-numbered by people swooning over Obisidian, Bioware, or Bethesda)Signa said:I say that because they've taken to being a retail store more and more. That doesn't diminish my love for what they do and how they do it, but we are talking about developers here, and Valve hasn't developed a game that I'm ecstatic for in years. Portal 2 was great, but it had its flaws. I don't give a shit about CS:GO, and L4D was amazing while it still held my interest, but I'm really bored with it now. TF2 is about the only game I play by them these days.Vigormortis said:I'm curious. What makes you say this?Signa said:Then there is Valve, but it's hard to call them a dev these days.
I hear that argument a lot around here and it's always perplexed me.
So yeah, that and it feels like a cop-out answering Valve in a question like this. Of course Valve is my favorite company/developer/publisher/retailer/social media network... They do too much.
However, not being a fan of their latest games doesn't really negate their status as a developer. I still view Bungie as a developer but I haven't been a fan of any of their titles except for Halo:CE and ODST.
I don't know. I always hear people complain that they don't make games anymore. Yet, they're producing more titles a year now than they ever have. So...those points never made sense to me. That's why I often ask these people to explain as I genuinely would like to understand where they're "coming from", so-to-speak.
It's the same set of circumstances that see me asking people why they think Bioware is now a bad developer; simply because of the bad ending(s) to Mass Effect 3.
Regardless, I can back the "cop-out" idea. To some it probably seems like the easy answer.
This. This so hard. Atlus forever.PunkyMcGee said:My fasionation right now lies to Atlus.
this is hard to explain without sounding like a rabid fan....Signa said:Valve hasn't developed a game that I'm ecstatic for in years. Portal 2 was great, but it had its flaws. .
I should expand on that.Vault101 said:this is hard to explain without sounding like a rabid fan....Signa said:Valve hasn't developed a game that I'm ecstatic for in years. Portal 2 was great, but it had its flaws. .
but I dont think Portal 2 "having flaws" is a compelling argument against Valve in an overall sense
all games "have flaws" the follow up to a game that was considered perfect was never going to plase anyone (I think its damn near perfect follow up tot he first portal IMO..I could go into why but thats hardly the point)
that said I'm not a Valve fan....they only have 2/3 games I love and my relationship with steam is...interesting..to say the least
And you still found a way to be passive aggressive and confrontational. It's a win-win scenario!Bhaalspawn said:The great thing about video games? I don't need my personal favorite to be validated by other gamers.Scrustle said:EA don't develop games. They publish them. They own a lot of good studios, but despite the fact some of them are called "EA something-or-other" they don't develop any games in-house, like Valve or Nintendo may do. So they don't count.Bhaalspawn said:
Oh, no no no. I think you misunderstood. I wasn't questioning why you didn't pick them as your favorite now-a-days. Which ever is your favorite is completely subjective. I wouldn't berate you for your choice. I'm not that much of an ass.Signa said:snip