Why are russians always evil?

[WillSimplyBe]

They're Commies!

communism ironically is the best form of government, it has just yet to work

It is not the best form of government unless it works in this universe. Back on topic, mostly because of the cold war, the gulags and the hats.

Agreed.

Elaboration:
Serious Answer: A lot of games that feature Russians as the enemies are set during the time period of the Cold War, simple as that. /thread
Sarcastic Joke Answer:Accents and Hats, they scream EEEBIL!

Comment on Communism: Communism is an increadibly Idealistic system of Government, that said, everyone who has tried it has bent it over, removed it's undergarments, and said "moan for daddy!"

Communism is an easily abused system of government.

 

[zombiechef]

Maybe because of the whole cold war thing, threatening to blow up the west in a nuclear holocaust. At least Cruschev did anyway.

 

[Mintycabbage]

Well, if you look in to it Russia hasn't had a good track record. You know with Stalin killing six million people and all.

 

[vamp rocks]

because games need a target... and after the cold war / war in iraq .... its going to be a muslim or a russian... i.e. older games depics nazis as the enemy... or sometimes "the man"

 

[Mintycabbage]

They're Commies!

communism ironically is the best form of government, it has just yet to work

It is not the best form of government unless it works in this universe. Back on topic, mostly because of the cold war, the gulags and the hats.

Hence why Socialism with an uncoruptable leader would be the best, Communism means that there is no competitive market.
Socialism can co-exist with a free market.

Yea being a History student covering different politics I could give you a whole list of reasons why communism is still horribly flawed even if you had an uncoruptable leader. Mainly that transition of power would be a long and potentially non-peaceful process. Also personally I'll only accept communism if it makes everybody richer and taken up-a-notch instead of everybody taken down-a-notch and become poor. The answer to this if you don't want to be poorer is that you get shot.

Extremist forms of government have always been appealing in times of economic crisis.Hence why Hitler was voted in and why Mussolini was voted in. Quick, effective decision making with a man who wants to benefit the country. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Mintycabbage]

Yea being a History student covering different politics I could give you a whole list of reasons why communism is still horribly flawed even if you had an uncoruptable leader. Mainly that transition of power would be a long and potentially non-peaceful process. Also personally I'll only accept communism if it makes everybody richer and taken up-a-notch instead of everybody taken down-a-notch and become poor. The answer to this if you don't want to be poorer is that you get shot.

Extremist forms of government have always been appealing in times of economic crisis.Hence why Hitler was voted in and why Mussolini was voted in. Quick, effective decision making with a man who wants to benefit the country. What could possibly go wrong?

I'm a socialist. I see your teacher is biased in there perspective and hides it poorly, if they have taught you that socialism is the same as communism.
(Not an attack on you)
(Unless your self-taught)

Actually it is more my own misreading than anything else. I thought you were more talking communism (I skim read, sue me). Anyway that statement was horribly biased towards democracy(my one). Having studied Mussolini and Hitler, it seems appealing to vote for them. Germans had a horribly weak democratic system, the middle class wanted to keep communism and Germany felt like Democracy had been forced upon them by the allies, which it had. Italians much of the same reasons except they felt like the allies had betrayed them after WW1 and they felt weak and Mussolini promised to restore them.

I do know the difference between Socialism and Communism. Socialism is based on an economy which is state owned and administered based on economic equality for all. Communism is based on no market whatsoever and instead everybody is equal in every way.

 

[McCrabby]

The only reason Russians are always considered evil in a game is because of this: One of their own created Tetris.

 

[CosmicGrenade]

They're Commies!

communism ironically is the best form of government, it has just yet to work

Yeah, right.

No that is true. If it were to work right with no mad dictator it would be perfect.... but then again this world is anything but perfect.

It's that Fidel was ignorant but that worked for a while It could have worked better

everything works better in hindsight

 

[LeonLethality]

wasnt it Stanlins fault? i learned about russia a lot, manditory >.> anyway yeah i bet its also that shroddriger (IDK I KNOW I SPELLED HIM WRONG) with his cat >.> i woulda thougth austria would be the evil ones after all both WW1&2 austria had a HUGE!!!! role in starting

 

[Mintycabbage]

I'm a socialist. I see your teacher is biased in there perspective and hides it poorly, if they have taught you that socialism is the same as communism.
(Not an attack on you)
(Unless your self-taught)

Actually it is more my own misreading than anything else. I thought you were more talking communism (I skim read, sue me). Anyway that statement was horribly biased towards democracy(my one). Having studied Mussolini and Hitler, it seems appealing to vote for them. Germans had a horribly weak democratic system, the middle class wanted to keep communism and Germany felt like Democracy had been forced upon them by the allies, which it had. Italians much of the same reasons except they felt like the allies had betrayed them after WW1 and they felt weak and Mussolini promised to restore them.

I do know the difference between Socialism and Communism. Socialism is based on an economy which is state owned and administered based on economic equality for all. Communism is based on no market whatsoever and instead everybody is equal in every way.

Now that we know we're on the same page, tell me a socialist world would be having this GEC the world is currently suffering from.

Well there are still problems occurring in that statement. The one that comes to mind with me is the black swan event. Nobody could foresee this economic crash happen and is based on events that ultimately lead up to the recession (American housing market etc). You cannot prove or unprove the fact that Socialism can stop the GEC. Much as if Capitalism was relatively new and not wildly used you couldn't prove or unprove it. But one thing I am pretty sure about is that Libertarian socialism in an GEC would be a disaster with everyone trying to get the hands on the most amount of money. To use a Metaphor at this time the Government is acting like a mother giving candy to children (companies). The children will fight among themselves, but the mother has the final decision. In libertarian socialism it will be like that except with the mother removed and the candy put on the floor.

 

[scotth266]

Its the accent.

In Russia, stereotype defines you!

But yeah, everybody likes the Ruskies for their heavy accents. It's not cause we like beating on them, it's just that we like Russians and have no where else to stick them in games except for the villain roles (save for Nico Bellic, perhaps).

 

[Jaxolith]

a bit irrelivant, but in eve-online (which is a mmo with a single global server), i fought against the "russians" for about 8 months, after they backstabbed us after 4 years of good standing.

From that experiance, I wouldnt call russians evil, but I got the feeling that russians only consider other russians worth respecting. Any non-russian is sub-human. If your not one of them, then words arnt binding, respect isnt given, honor doesnt apply.

Having a similar experience with other language groups (the french did something similar, but on the whole maintained a level of respect) I dont think its just the fact that i had them hostile that has soured my opinion of them.

So, you end up with a group of people speaking a language that sounds hardcore that only stick up for each other and that all others must fear (enemies, and other allies since you have to watch out for the kinfe in the back when it suits them best), plus RL historical facts (cold war and how many games/movies are american?) its, in my opinion, a combination of a fair bit of demonizing propaganda on top of a seed of truth.

 

[teisjm]

"A russian cleans up in chigargo" Featured our beloved terminator as a russian cop who had to clean up some scum in America.

It's because the russians we're the enemy once, so they stay that way in games... call it propaganda or patriotism

Is that the Red Heat movie? James Belushi and Arnold?

I donøt know the american title. The Danish title is "En Russer rydder op i chicargo" which translate to "A russian cleans up in chigargo" but you're prolyl right. Somehow movie namers get strange ideas about having different titles in different countries. Luckily they don't translate most titles