Xbox One Designed "With Advertising in Mind"

[Alorxico]

Ohh, I really want to buy this just to see if it is possible to troll it.

Hmm, I think I am coming down with a sudden case of Tourettes.

Dude, you made my day! I laughed for a solid 15 minutes!

What wonder kinds of ads would you get after cursing violently at your Kinect? "Visit our Website; Anger Management in 12 Easy Steps", "Have you considered buying the book '27 ways to Improve your vocabulary'?", "Talk to your doctor about this new medicine that is proven to prevent embarrassing outbursts"

And what happens if you start being polite to it? Does it lock your account because it things it has been compromised? "You are not being beligerant or crude. You are, therefore, not the owner of this account and will be banned from playing any games on this console until you can prove you are the owner of this account." &*@$*%!* "Welcome back, Player!"

 

[Flunk]

Wow Microsoft, you've already sold us on your new product and now you just keep making things better. I want to get one of these on launch, heck make that two.

Now reverse the sentiment of that paragraph. It's like they actively want us to hate their product isn't it?

 

[luvd1]

The more I see Microsoft these days the more I am reminded of the end of the Simpsons episode "the old man and Lisa".

Mind explaining this, just I remember the episode, but what party is MS?

It's the one where mr burns goes bankrupt and Lisa shows him that he doesn't have to be so evil to succeed so she teaches him about recycling and being kind to the environment. A changed man, he builds up his forture again by picking up litter and selling it for recycling till he has enough money to build a factory made from and uses pure recyc in honor of his new friend Lisa... That uses plastic beer rings to make a huge net for fishing the local seas which is then turned into pet food. He thinks he's doing good when he is infact doing even greater evil. It's my favourt episode.

 

[tdylan]

There's already plenty of ads on the PS3 and 360.
I see no reason to get upset by this non-specific information.

I think the biggest issues are:

- it being designed with advertising in mind
- the kinect listening to all words in order to tailor ads to you, when it's only supposed to be listening for "key words" related to its function. Which even if true meant that it was listening to all words and simply "disregarding" the non "key words."

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

It's the one where mr burns goes bankrupt and Lisa shows him that he doesn't have to be so evil to succeed so she teaches him about recycling and being kind to the environment. A changed man, he builds up his forture again by picking up litter and selling it for recycling till he has enough money to build a factory made from and uses pure recyc in honor of his new friend Lisa... That uses plastic beer rings to make a huge net for fishing the local seas which is then turned into pet food. He thinks he's doing good when he is infact doing even greater evil. It's my favourt episode.

Alright, Cheers, just needed some context in order to fully understand what you were getting at.

 

[tdylan]

You want to charge me half a G, 60 dollars a game, AND CHARGE ME FOR ONLINE PLAY, then, ontop of it all, you want to put advertisements on my console AND spy on me to try to target those ads better?

Fucking seriously?

Objection! They said $60 for FIRST PARTY games. I don't think they've mentioned how much 3rd party games will cost. Which gives me reason to think they will cost more.

 

[BodomBeachChild]

I've tried explaining this crap to people at work and why to jsut avoid the Xbox and get a PS4 or join me and I'll help them build a tower. No luck. Why? "All my friends play on Xbox and I think it's a good console." That is why we call "not listening." They are completely fine with this crap.

 

[erbi79]

I am really a big MS hateboy BUT they actually managed to make me concerned about them... oO

Wth is going on with their PR department? Why would you even announce this?
And again, what I really don't understand, if you DO announce it, at least make it somewhat tasty... even if they are lies or only half truths, say what WE get out of this, why should WE think this is not a bad thing...

Or at least wait until the dust has settled on your previous blunders...

maybe they are running a bet or something... We can make all the wrong decisions, announce the like they are awesome without explaining why they would be awesome and people will still buy our product en masse!

The sad thing is they would probably win this bet...

Wow is all I can say really, MS please get your stuiff together because I was really getting tired ranting on you, but you can't let a week pass without something new to butch about... oh gods...

 

[The_Echo]

There's already plenty of ads on the PS3 and 360.

The only "ads" on PS3 are a ticker at the top (which you can toggle on and off) and the What's New segment on the XMB (which you don't have to look at).

Both of which only concern themselves with items in the PlayStation Store.

The 360's dash with place ads just about anywhere, advertising just about anything.

 

[Mumorpuger]

I've used my router to block ads.... it's really handy. My Xbox 360 is unable to display ads, but as a side effect I can't watch Hulu. They detect the ad wasn't played and refuse to play.

 

[Rariow]

I just don't get these men. Stuff like this you're supposed to hide away in the fine print to be an unpleasant surprise for your customers, not parade as one of your main selling points. I'd frankly be less annoyed if the advertising was a sudden reveal a day before the thing came out, I just can't understand how the biggest electronics corporation we have can be so damn stupid.

 

[deadish]

My reaction when reading the article.

http://youtu.be/lrF5x1OSJuQ

Does MS really have such a low opinion of their customer base's intelligence?

 

[Karadalis]

"[Microsoft] is very keen on protecting the user from any sort of abuse so we can't do certain things."

Ooooookay... theres something very very wrong with this sentence...

Shouldnt he rather say "will not" rather then "cant"?

Because "cant" means that they would if they where allowed to...

 

[Hero in a half shell]

You have adverts on cable, when you pay for it. You have adverts on pages on the internet and you pay for the use of the internet. As long as the adverts arnt in your face and obstructive, then i dont really care. I think this site needs to calm down and wait till an actual XBone is unboxed and plugged in and we can see how it works. What the advert part is like and other features. An then decide. XBone is like a Nazi Swastika - as in when you see it your brain automatically connects it with negative things.

I understand, you, like me, are fans of 360. It sucks that MS is giving us so many reasons to NOT by the XBone. Its like meeting the girl you love, and then out comes all these negatives and you are conflicted about how many negatives you can accept before you throw in the towel.

But the ads for internet pages aren't generating money for your Internet Service Provider who you pay to give you internet, they go to the individuals who own the webpage. The ads for your cable aren't generating money for the people who provide you with cable, they go to the individual channels that use cable.

The Xbox ads revenue goes straight to Microsoft, not the developers making games, not anyone else, and you already paid full price for a console, and monthly subscription fees for their online services.

Not only that, but the way this announcement that Xbox One will have ads on the dashboard is completely dismissive of their consumers.
1. The Xbox will use the mandatory Kinect unlink to spy on you, and use your conversations for targeted advertising.

2. The Dashboard itself has been "Designed with advertising in mind". Not with "user friendliness in mind" not "customer needs in mind" not "Optimum machine performance".
The purpose of the main home screen of the Xbox One is to generate revenue through advertisements for Microsoft at the customers expense. They are boasting about this feature on the games console.

3. One of your points was that we don't know how obtrusive or annoying the ads will be. We do, because this guy told us straight up that Microsoft have designed the ads so that you can click on them accidentally, resulting in more money for them:

the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash

Yes, that means that they designed it so many people will be accidentally clicking on ads when they don't want to. Lovely.

 

[Vie]

Dear Microsoft.

Doing this:

Is a bad idea, please stop doing it.

It was amusing at first, but now it's starting to get scary: Do you have a medical condition that prevents you from feeling pain?

 

[OneCatch]

Oh Microsoft, just when you had went back on your craptastic DRM and had managed not to shit the proverbial bed for almost a week and a half you go and say this bullshit. One step forward and two steps back it seems.

I know right?

My god, it's been like watching the microsoft train detail, flip over, catch fire, explode, and then as they just about manage to stop the flames spreading into surrounding woodland filled with cute animals and babies and children, some guy runs up with a jerrycan full of jet fuel and sets the whole lot off again.

It's almost mesmerizing.

Just to illustrate my point [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT45OJBNPsU&t=1m40s]

 

[Saltyk]

I... Words fail me. This is so stupid.

It's like they looked for everything gamers hate, and threw those things into this console.

Another strike for Microsoft.

I think at this point, the game is over. But Microsoft is still just standing there, swinging away at nothing.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

Hold on a sec, help me get this straight...you have to pay $5 per month to be bombarded by ads??

 

[LordMonty]

Is this Microsoft's attempt at taknig EA's crown as the biggest noob compony world wide? I'm getting confused seriously how can this get any worse publicity wise... just shush up no news is good news for you guys right now.

 

[Karadalis]

I seem to recall pointing out a few weeks back that Microsoft was one of several companies being slapped with a class-action lawsuit for their involvement in PRISM, the big NSA scandal that involved their devices being used to spy on people. I suggested, at that time, that Microsoft might use the XBone to perform such a task, and people in these forums shrugged it off as mere conspiracy, saying that it was unlikely the device would really be used that way.

Clearly that was a mistake on their parts, as this is an open admission that the device IS being used to spy on its audience. And if they're willing to use it to spy on people for advertising for other big corporations, then do you really think they wouldn't also use it to help spy for the NSA, especially if that spying request came via secret court order?

I'll make some more tin foil hats for those of you who are willing to join me over here in "Crazytown", if you please.

Crazy town?

More like "sad reality"

The fact that microsoft seems to gamble on the great stupid uninformed or uncaring masses shows how easy corporations and goverments have it these days to violate your rights.

That people are even defending these practices while at the same time getting bend over by those that they defend shows that Einstein was infact right from the very beginning.