oh i would love to see jeremy paxman interview microsoft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c
Steven Bogos said:Xbox One Games Will Still be Playable When Servers Shut Down
Major Nelson assured us that at the end of this generation's lifecycle, when the Xbox One's servers shut down permanently, you'll still be able to play your old games.
In an interview with /r/games [http://www.reddit.com/r/Games], Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb answered some of the most "upvoted" questions from the popular videogaming sub-reddit. Right off the bat, he was asked what would happen after the Xbox One servers are shut down at the end of the new generation. Specifically, he was asked if games would be unplayable after Microsoft pulled the plug. His response was a reassuring one: "That's certainly something we would not do. That's not the way the system is designed. It's designed for flexibility. But let's get the system out there first."
Next, Hryb was asked whether players who were banned from Xbox Live would lose access to the single player portion of all of the games they have registered to their account. "Absolutely not," Hryb replied with confidence.
"Come with us toward the light on an amazing journey, where we can unlock the potential of great gaming experiences."
Unfortunately, from this point on his replies are more deflections rather than straight answers. When asked why the Xbox One couldn't use a physical disk as a "failsafe" to bypass the 24 hour check-in policy, Hryb went on to talk about how its not possible because of how awesome the Xbox One's "family sharing library" is.
Hryb also seems unshaken by Sony's press conference, which practically devolved into mockery [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124817-PlayStation-4-Game-Sharing-This-Is-How-Its-Done] of the Xbox One. "I don't think we're going to change anything [after having seen Sony's conference]. We're very happy with what we've done with Xbox One."
Major Nelson seemed to keep coming back to the Xbox One's "flexibility" and "future proofing" as counters to the policies being scrutinized by reddit users. He ended the interview by again bringing up how great the "family sharing library" system will be, and how he wished more people would ask him about it. If nothing else he seems to be pretty damn excited about the system.
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Your logic is putrid. You are drawing a false equivalency between an upgrade incentive like DX10 and outright disabling the previous version. Did MS turn off Windows XP authentication? Did they turn off Windows Vista authentication? Did they turn off Windows 7 authentication? No, no, and no. Why not? Aren't they Satan? Don't they want to "force" everyone into buying the next soon-to-be-rendered-useless product, as you claim is such a great business tactic?vallorn said:It`s a tactic they will use to shift more of their Nextbox. Basically "Oh yeah you know the last generation of consoles? We`re turning them off so if you want to stay with us you need to come and use our NEW AND IMPROVED piece of boxy rubbish!"
Its just a transparent but powerful tactic to force people to buy new products. They did it with windows XP when they released a version of Direct X that wouldn't work on it and so forced gamers who want their Direct X requiring games to "Upgrade" to a new OS like Vista or 7.
I will bet money they will eventually force us to upgrade to 8 or 9 the same way as I will also bet that they will try and push 360 users to the X1 within the next 2-3 years by shutting off those servers.
Okay. If I have the games I can still play them.alphamalet said:Well this just opens a new can of worms. If this is possible at the end of the generation, then why not just scrap the DRM now? It's the question that begs to be answered.
Additionally, if games will still be playable, then I guess we aren't relying on the cloud too much then...?
This is film companies melting down movies for the silver all over again. Humans never learn -_-Severian said:If some games require the cloud to run properly, how in gods name could you keep playing them if their servers go offline? Seems like a lot of his answers were straight up deflections and didn't even answer them. Lots of spin talk.![]()
You know how EA games remain 'playable' when 'support' gets taken away? I think he means that rather than maintaining any semblance of functionality or desirability.BreakfastMan said:So, basically... Wait until Gen-9 to get an Xbone, since all the crap DRM junk will be removed when the Xbone's successor comes around? Good to know, I will be looking forward to buying an Xbone at that time, then.
You've set the end of the tunnel on fire huh?Steven Bogos said:"Come with us toward the light on an amazing journey..."
Which is about when I'll be willing to invest in one.Nazulu said:So it becomes 'flexible' when the generation ends. Good to know.
Bingo.alphamalet said:Well this just opens a new can of worms. If this is possible at the end of the generation, then why not just scrap the DRM now? It's the question that begs to be answered.
Additionally, if games will still be playable, then I guess we aren't relying on the cloud too much then...?
Well, depending on how hard-coded it is into the system, it could take anywhere from a week to over a month of working on this single problem to get the disk thing to work and, because they are likely crunched for time as is, they probably won't get to that until after the console gets out and they work out all the bugs.Adam Locking said:If that's the case, there must be a simple (ish) way to disable this in a console right from day one? I can see this being the mod-chip fiasco all over again...uchytjes said:If anything, they'll make an update where they put in an option to have the Xbone work like normal, but when it isn't connected it'll require the disk be in the drive regardless of installation.