I've found the kits in Bad Company 2 to be incredibly ineffective as a system. All of them are quite capable of killing people, which really detracts from them each having their own specific job. It starts to get a lot closer to simply choosing your primary weapon, which is exactly how the class system in MW2 works. Also, the fact that you can pick up kits completely ruins the entire system for me. For an example of a good class system, I would point to the Team Fortress series, although primarily TF2. I've never been a fan of how the Battlefield series operated its kits. And while it's true that the maps are larger than the ones in MW2, my experiences have led me to conclude that there's not much more strategy to be had. People do travel in packs a bit more, but there's no coherent sense of teamwork that is so prevalent in, say, Counter-Strike. Sure, it appears to be there; there are medics and ammo packs, but when it comes down to it they're not necessary. Health regenerates and you very rarely find yourself low on ammo (at least from my experience). The core gameplay of the two games is incredibly similar: in both of them one man is able to rack up kill after kill after kill if they're skilled enough. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but there's not enough of a focus on the collective team to truthfully label BC2 as being that much more focused on the collective.Iamjacksego said:
Well, I worded that poorly. I have played the game. For my exact complaints about the game you can read my above response.Abedeus said:
Because when critic chooses only one thing to mock, and ignores everything that makes the thing great, then the critic is pretty damn bad.VGFreak1225 said:
You are aware that DICE created a game with modern-day weapons, setting and an unlock/ranking system before Infinity Ward, right? Ever hear of Battlefield 2?CORRODED SIN said:
He's already said that that's not why people watch him. He's said in the past that he doesn't enjoy multiplayer very often, and he even said in his Batman Arkham Asylum review, that people don't watch him to see a game get complemented. I would be willing to bet that if you asked him, he'd rather have a developer listen to him, and take his criticism into serious consideration for their next game of the same genre, than to have someone decide on whether to not to buy a game. Especially for a game where the opinions for the single-player campaign have mostly ranged from okay, to pretty good, but never truly great. (Slight disclaimer, I haven't played BC2 yet, so I'm just reading from past reviews; this is not my own opinion that I have taken from someone else) And its not like he goes through every review without pointing out the qualities. If you look at several of his past reviews, and actually thought about what he said, it's really not all that damning if you consider everything. To this day Yahtzee's one of the most trustworthy critics I've ever seen in the industry, and its for that very reason.Abedeus said:
Yes, but the things they have added to the the Bad Comapany games still borrow a lot from Modern Warfare. Those are two very general points too, especailly the second. It describes any online shooter from the past 6 years: Halo, Ghost Recon, CoD, Rainbow Six, etc. Or any game that has an unlock/ranking system- Battlefield 2 didn't invent them. I'm sure that game borrowed from previous shooters. I'm thinking of little details in the game and things they do.Ph0t0n1c Ph34r said:
