Yeah, I am totally passing on BioShock 2, but not only because of what Yahtzee said. I finished BioShock 1 with everything, unlocked every single thing in it (achievements and all, even Brass Balls) so I don't feel like going back to Rapture.
Yahtzee's video was very funny like always, and I can't believe the Big Sisters respawn either way. He nailed it right there.
So Bioshock 2 is to Bioshock what Tales of Symphonia 2 was to it's original?
That's disappointing. I'm fine with a game taking place in the same world as the original, which Bioshock 2 almost got but then decided it should stick around in Rapture, a place we've already had our fun with and have spent a long time analyzing by this point. I'm guessing that had they decided on another city where sh*t just goes crazy and let us walk in and discover its origins and what lead to the current problem, the story could have been a lot better (like say, Atlantis itself or something. This is a videogame about superpower givin slugs, you've already got a lot of freedom. Or maybe it could be a story about people who had these powers and how they were turned in to those slugs, either by over splicing or just that's what was left after they died. The point is, you had plenty of options. You didn't just have to return to the exact same place, with people doing almost the same thing that lead to the problems in the first game).
I myself have no problems with the concept of playing as an enemy from the first game, as you could then get to see how things happen from their perspective. However, I'm guessing it was just like playing as Bioshock's main character from the way I'm hearing things, meaning you don't really get the whole experience of being a Big Daddy so much as you get Big Daddy equipment.
Once again, the problems with moral choice come up. First of all, evil always seems to make better gameplay (I really hate how you have this whole evil gets the fun, good gets the story) and the whole you must choose a side, which defeats the whole purpose of roleplaying (which is in itself the purpose of moral choice).
Funny and kind of true, but despite the fact this is very obviously its prequels sequel, it was still just... fun. Maybe it's a matter of differing taste.
Why is it that it took so long for a reviewer to actually comment on Bioshock 2's narrative and philosophy? Christ, those were the best parts of the original. And arguably, you didn't need the 'game' to sell them.
Amusing review. I knew Yahtzee would trash it, and was not disappointed.
Unfortunately, while he is entitled to his opinion, I disagree with it. I enjoyed the living hell out of Bioshock 2, and already have played it through twice. I got pretty good value out of my purchase, I think.
Some refined gameplay mechanics? Check
Some new gameplay mechanics to 'freshen up' things? Check
New locations that remain asthetically faithful to the original? Check
New plot, that stays thematically faithful to the original? Check
Same high production values as the original? Check
...and I could go on.
Now, obviously some ret-conning is going to have to happen, because the first game left little in the way of flexibilty for continuation, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Yahtzee made it out to be.
A perfect example of how Yahtzee is completely off-base on some of these points? There's a series of audio logs that specifically explain why the prototype Big Daddy (the player) is so much more powerful than what ended up as the "production" Big Daddy, namely:
that the prototype was too powerful and uncontrollable, killing orderlies and throwing off the mental conditioning Ryan and Lamb (who you discover were originally working together to create the Big Daddies, much like Tenenbaum pioneered the Little Sisters) were developing to compliment Suchong's physical upgrades. They dumbed the final version of the Big Daddies down so they could be more easily controlled. (and also took away the ability for them to use plasmids)
The point is: the info was there if you cared to look for it. Clearly, Yahtzee doesn't have time to actually thoroughly play a game; instead, he has to rip right through them as fast as possible looking for elements he can excoriate, rather than provide a legitimate, in-depth review.
Which is exactly why I consider his 'reviews' to not be informational, but simple entertainment.
To people wondering about the extra prominent adds, you might notice it's probably in exchange for the 10-15 second ads in front of the video. Personally I prefer this new method.
I love these reviews, but they never really change my opinons of the various games that I have. Yahtzee ripped on Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, and Modern Warfare 2 and I still love those games regardless of what he said. I'm going to get Bioshock 2 over the summer, despite what Yahtzee said in his review because I want to have another adventure through Rapture from a different perspective. These reviews are, after all, meant for comedic effect and he did later on admit that Uncharted 2 was one of the best games of 2009, despite the fact that he didn't like much of it. I may be wrong about this, but I'm sure that he'll say the same thing about Bioshock 2 at the end of the year.
Very funny review, but I disagree. Sure, it's a knockoff, but it's a fun one, and while the plot seems more like a side-plot rather than the real thing, it was still entertaining. The plot is kind of weak because it's not really about how Rapture got to be, how Rapture fell, and how it stood up again. It could be improved by giving a plot that matters, this just seemed like a villain who saw that everything was empty and set up shop. But the game play is still excellent, and controlling a Big Daddy is loads of fun.
Also, call me weird, but protecting the Little Sisters was one of my favorite parts of the game. I had to share the game with my brother since he was the one who bought it, so we took turns, so to make it fair, whenever a Little Sister showed up, I kindly said that if I could take the Little Sisters, he could play for longer. Maybe I enjoy escort missions, maybe I feel a strange compassion for the Little Sisters (I never harvested them. I can't harm those poor little girls).
One last thing, I was a ammo wasting hypochondriac, but I still managed to beat the crap out of the Big Sisters.
I also liked playing as a Big Daddy more than Jack, although that might be because I'm also an emotionally dead robot that likes killing pretty things...=D
Anyways....
I can see Yahtzee mostly got pissed that they're trying to milk an FPS franchise that at least began with an original concept unlike the 50billion space marine shooters out there, even though the gameplay itself an the entire plot twist at the end was completely copy/pasted from System Shock 2...lol
I'm not surprised the sequel is not living up to the original. Every piece of info I've gotten about the game since it was first announced has made my head spin. "You play as the first Big Daddy but it's 10 years after the first game." (94 degree spin to the right) "You play as a Big Daddy but can still use Plasmids." (180 degree spin to the left) "There are older versions of the little sisters that fight you." (260 degree spin vertically)
I to wondered how the hell Rapture is still standing, it felt like it was about to collapse at the start of the first game, with more water sloshing around than the recently thawed plains of Greenland.
Wow... is it just me or is he getting angrier with every video?
Anyway, I like Bioshock 2, it a solid shooter and I think it only gets a bad reputation because the first game was so good. Play it without having played the first game and it's quite excellent. I did play the first game, but unfortunately I had gotten the major plot twist spoiled for me, so I just thought "yeah, allright but when is it going to happen?" most of the time I played Bioshock. But I guess I'm just a bit hurt from his joke in the beginning of the video... or maybe I'm just thick.
EDIT: also: "Grrr! Your selfless compassion fills me with murder frenzy!" Funny Shit!
I think Bioshock 2 is a good game, not as good as the first obviously but still good. Oh well should of knowen that Yahtzee would hate it the man has really high standards. Also just saying it has got soooo many sick reviews
I'm a huge fan of this series, don't get me wrong. I've agreed with Yahtzee, and I've disagreed with Yahtzee (I too thought Halo was a blandfest, but I genuinely enjoyed Mass Effect), but this time I just need to speak out. I know it makes me sound like a tool, but I have to say: I really disagree with this review. I mean, no redeeming qualities at all? I absolutely loved this game! Okay, I'm done ranting. Leave me to my shame...
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