Yeah, did not like the first one much. Thanks for letting me know to stay away from this one too.
Zero Punctuation: Fable 2
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Eh, you CAN now shoot the children in Fallout 3, thanks to some nimrod who made a mod to do just that. Happy, you twisted child-shooting freaks?
Of course I haven't encountered the Lamplight kids in F3 (yet), so can't judge just how deserving they are of a hot lead sandwich. . . .
Of course I haven't encountered the Lamplight kids in F3 (yet), so can't judge just how deserving they are of a hot lead sandwich. . . .
Oh yes, replaying old games is good fun. As for Fallout 2 some people No Mutants Allowed (I think) has a restoration project going which adds lots of stuff that didnt make it to the final version. As good a reason as any to replay it ^_^entropy3ko said:
I did enjoy Fallout 3 but as you said. They could have done sooooo much more. As for oblivion, i think its very overrated. It was alright. Nothing more. But thats my personal thought about it. People can love it till the cows come home for all i care. ^_^
And yes, killing kids is a thing of the past. Way to many annoying crusaders out there these days.
Amen.Ragdrazi said:
Interestingly enough, my friends and I actually made a, more or less, wager on how you would rate Fable II. I'm happy to say that I so called it! This pretty much started with one of my friends spazzing out about it saying it would kick ass. (Yes. He hyped it.) I pretty much told him to go play the first one before he tried to make any claims. Unfortunatly, he didn't follow my advice. When I got to play this, I pretty much felt the same way you did, and yes, I also got very bored with the fact that I could get the same satisfaction playing the first one, where I'm more used to the controls. I was hoping you would give Fable II a "Resounding "eh" just like you did with SSBB, because I do feel this game is deserving of one.
I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but my head will most likely explode if I don't say it. I mean, I made an account here just to post this one, single message. Of course, someone will come along and say something about that too, I'm sure. Anyway...
Yahtzee is an amazing game critic, he really is. I've never laughed so much over something related to reviews in my entire life. However, what people fail to notice is that Yahtzee points out nothing but flaws, a.k.a he is a critic. Just because he says something bad about a game doesn't mean it totally blows. You people have an IQ above 100, right? Then why not buy the game yourself, try it out, and then say whether it does or doesn't totally blow.
I mean, here's a small quote from the first page of this thread:
"Another US$60 I don't have to spend. Seems that Fable suffers from the same NPC plague as Oblivion in that all of them look, sound, and act exactly the same.
Bravo."
This means that this person totally ate up Yahtzee's words and ignored basic Gamer instinct, which is "Oh, that looks shiny, lets try it." I mean, I'm not saying anything bad about Yahtzee, or this review, but he himself has covered this before in that one mailbag rant. He doesn't say yes or no, only only offers his opinions and leaves it up to you on whether or not to take them into consideration. I myself bought Fable 2, played it, and rather enjoyed it. Why? Because Fable has a charm to it that I rather like.
Here's another quote:
"Yahtzee's finally sold his balls to the highest bidder and put a dumbass kiddie game into his review.
and here I thought he was our ray of hope to get an honest review to a game ."
Fable 2, a kiddie game? Shooting someone's head off from 50 paces and leaving an impressive blood splatter is far from child-safe material. Fable 2 may not have nudity or foul language, but it is most definitely for people age 13 and up.
See, I just gave a small opinion, just like Yahtzee did with his review. Of course, the mindless masses will see this as one big complaint and come chasing me down with their verbal torches, but I'm not going to be frequenting the Escapist forums very much, so the chances of me giving a damn are zero to none. I merely needed to state that you all are (supposedly) gamers, and should be concerned about trying any game that could be fun.
I'd also like to say that Yahtzee needs to keep doing what he does best, which is ripping games multiple new holes. Though I must ask, why didn't he bother mentioning the fact that Fable 2 is rather...glitchy?
(Now, bring on the hate and the flames.)
Yahtzee is an amazing game critic, he really is. I've never laughed so much over something related to reviews in my entire life. However, what people fail to notice is that Yahtzee points out nothing but flaws, a.k.a he is a critic. Just because he says something bad about a game doesn't mean it totally blows. You people have an IQ above 100, right? Then why not buy the game yourself, try it out, and then say whether it does or doesn't totally blow.
I mean, here's a small quote from the first page of this thread:
"Another US$60 I don't have to spend. Seems that Fable suffers from the same NPC plague as Oblivion in that all of them look, sound, and act exactly the same.
Bravo."
This means that this person totally ate up Yahtzee's words and ignored basic Gamer instinct, which is "Oh, that looks shiny, lets try it." I mean, I'm not saying anything bad about Yahtzee, or this review, but he himself has covered this before in that one mailbag rant. He doesn't say yes or no, only only offers his opinions and leaves it up to you on whether or not to take them into consideration. I myself bought Fable 2, played it, and rather enjoyed it. Why? Because Fable has a charm to it that I rather like.
Here's another quote:
"Yahtzee's finally sold his balls to the highest bidder and put a dumbass kiddie game into his review.
and here I thought he was our ray of hope to get an honest review to a game ."
Fable 2, a kiddie game? Shooting someone's head off from 50 paces and leaving an impressive blood splatter is far from child-safe material. Fable 2 may not have nudity or foul language, but it is most definitely for people age 13 and up.
See, I just gave a small opinion, just like Yahtzee did with his review. Of course, the mindless masses will see this as one big complaint and come chasing me down with their verbal torches, but I'm not going to be frequenting the Escapist forums very much, so the chances of me giving a damn are zero to none. I merely needed to state that you all are (supposedly) gamers, and should be concerned about trying any game that could be fun.
I'd also like to say that Yahtzee needs to keep doing what he does best, which is ripping games multiple new holes. Though I must ask, why didn't he bother mentioning the fact that Fable 2 is rather...glitchy?
(Now, bring on the hate and the flames.)
I like how people are defending Yahtzee.
It's for the lulz, you guys. It's an epic game. You're an idiot to think it's bad just because he reviewed it.
It's for the lulz, you guys. It's an epic game. You're an idiot to think it's bad just because he reviewed it.
If you really think it was that bad don't get fable 2. I liked fable and I like fable 2 just as much but I'm not going to call them wonders of the world and yell at you for hating them.Ragdrazi said:
It confuses me as to why but "Meh" fable isn't the kind of game to inspire fanboyism on eather side of the conflict, which says alot.
Context. Someone's in need of it.
Yahtzee never said the violence against children was essential - it's just rather out of place in a game where you can murder everyone except children.
Hyperbole you dolt.Ragdrazi said:
This is patently and absolutely false. If you cannot see the divide between Fallout 1 & 2's child killing and child killing in Fallout 3 or Fable 2 you have absolutely no perspective on anything. Fallout 1 and 2 were COMPUTER ONLY, which highly reduced the exposure. If the game was on a console it would have easily received an AO rating.Ragdrazi said:
Then to say that companies and developers not committing career suicide (and it would be just that) is just because they don't want to push the envelope anymore is crap. Why don't you or Croshaw go make a game called "Child Killer/Scat Eater" and put your own names behind it? Oh yeah, because if it was picked up by the media your professional lives would be over. You're just totally full of shit.
"Child Killer"? Feh, you could kill children way back in Deus Ex! Well, maybe not "children", "a child" would be more accurate -- the annoying bugger in the Chinese marketplace, he was the only kid in the game, I think. And DX was ported to PS2 with a rating of M, so HAH!
The example's I've given may well be simply isolated cases, but I think that your "Child Killer/Scat Eater" argument seems rather "totally full of shit" itself.
Y's original argument was for the in-game freedom and as for me, I'm much more concerned about the ability to marry my dog are an individual of the same sex in Fable 2, killing children is not on top of my to-do list.
P.S. BTW, can you have same-sex marriage in Fable 2?
Go play Derek Yu's freeware "I'm O.K - A Murder Simulator" and kill children all you want, then tell him that his current commercial effort Aquaria isn't selling (which would obviously be a lie) because he ruined his career.Worm4Life said:
The example's I've given may well be simply isolated cases, but I think that your "Child Killer/Scat Eater" argument seems rather "totally full of shit" itself.
Y's original argument was for the in-game freedom and as for me, I'm much more concerned about the ability to marry my dog are an individual of the same sex in Fable 2, killing children is not on top of my to-do list.
P.S. BTW, can you have same-sex marriage in Fable 2?