Zero Punctuation: Overlord 2
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I found that the game for the Xbox 360 had much better controls. But still with its problems. Its camera sometimes didn't move but started to sweep the minions all around. And sometimes they see my green minions when they were invisible. But I think it was a good game. I think I might pick it up from stores when it hits about $30.
My idiot of a friend has been trying too hard to act like Yahtzee and has been doing it wrong. It really is getting on my nerves. Yahtzee is funny and makes GOOD reviews like this one and attacks games for not making you want to care and having crappy controls, whereas my friend (which I am really debating whether he really is my friend) might as well be saying "Blaaa bla blab blab balaaa blaa." Really starting to piss me off.
It really is good to see something from the real McCoy, I mean Yahtzee. He actually has intelligent, but funny, points to make.
It really is good to see something from the real McCoy, I mean Yahtzee. He actually has intelligent, but funny, points to make.
The evil part of me finds the people who try to change his opinion can be as funny as the actual review.TheDoctor455 said:
Edit: Forgot to say, this review has me curious as to how close this game is to Evil Genius, which I rather enjoyed.
Sounds like if you want Yahtzee to like your game, the primary thing you need to do is create a control scheme so intuitive that your half-blind, arthritic grandmother can play it.
The moving the minions through a maze puzzle on a timmer really burnned me as well because it was so utterly tangential to anything else you ever had to do with the game.
However, and this is a big however, you can "outhink" this particular "maze" if you know what you're doing. You can use the waypoint system to make some of your minions wait on top of the necessary pannels you have to hit while they're still deactivated before you start an attempt at the maze. That way, you can ignore those pannels which significantly reduces the difficultly of the maze, after about a dozen (make that two dozen) failed attempts at doing it the normal way and constantly failing to hit all four buttons I parked two minions on top of the third, took another go and having to hit only the first second and fourth buttons let me pull it off on my first try.
It irritated me, but once I sucessfuly pulled it off I decided in retrospect to cut the developers some slack, they were trying something new, and wanted to find a way of making you think three dimensionally with your mounted greens, and after this section they never made you do anything like it again. Sometimes new ideas work, sometimes they don't, maybe in the third Overlord game there will be a part where you use a posession alatar to control a blue and have to swim around rescuing a bunch of other minions from drowning and drag them back to land to achieve some objective...
By the way, I did sign up just for ZP like so many others if anyone cares and since I can't get the video to load at the moment, so I won't say anything else.
However, and this is a big however, you can "outhink" this particular "maze" if you know what you're doing. You can use the waypoint system to make some of your minions wait on top of the necessary pannels you have to hit while they're still deactivated before you start an attempt at the maze. That way, you can ignore those pannels which significantly reduces the difficultly of the maze, after about a dozen (make that two dozen) failed attempts at doing it the normal way and constantly failing to hit all four buttons I parked two minions on top of the third, took another go and having to hit only the first second and fourth buttons let me pull it off on my first try.
It irritated me, but once I sucessfuly pulled it off I decided in retrospect to cut the developers some slack, they were trying something new, and wanted to find a way of making you think three dimensionally with your mounted greens, and after this section they never made you do anything like it again. Sometimes new ideas work, sometimes they don't, maybe in the third Overlord game there will be a part where you use a posession alatar to control a blue and have to swim around rescuing a bunch of other minions from drowning and drag them back to land to achieve some objective...
By the way, I did sign up just for ZP like so many others if anyone cares and since I can't get the video to load at the moment, so I won't say anything else.
I wonder what he think about Evil Genius? I thinl its a bloody good game, but with annoying little things like the stupidness of the minions...
Oddly enough, nothing he said actually stops me from wanting the game. I liked the irony in the first game and grew to like the evil stoic. *cough*SelfInsertionFantasyPersona*cough* So I was looking forward to raising his kid. *cough*badparenting*cough*
Damn summer colds.
Damn summer colds.
I've said it before, but evidently it needs to be said again:
If you base your decisions upon the opinion of a single person (no matter how interesting, amusing, and/or intelligent that person may be), please start bleating because you are SHEEP!
Seriously, isn't that the definition of a 'follower'?
I always take Yahtzee's reviews for what I'm pretty sure he intended them to be- comedy, with perhaps the added bonus of conveying some salient facts about a game. Given the nature of Yahtzee's personality and humor, I recognize that he will most likely focus primarily on the negative aspects of the game he is reviewing, and I look at those criticisms and figure out if they are relevant to my own personal pet peeves.
The control issues are a good example: if Yahtzee says that the controls handled like an ass on stilts strapped to rollerskates and it seems as if some of the challenge of the game is simply overcoming poor controls, then that is going to give me pause because that is something that I HATE.
But as far as the "that you're supposed to be a dick takes the fun out of being a dick", or "the possibility of forming an attachment to your minions to the point that you'd pay to bring them back from the dead is ludicrous" (no, I have not, in fact, named my dining room chairs... yet) criticisms, well, I don't necessarily agree with those opinions, so I ignore them.
I also disagree about his take on the function of critics-- reviews and the like may contribute a bit to the refinement process, but as someone else pointed out, it's all about profit motive, as is thoroughly demonstrated by the steaming mounds of turd-like game sequels that are constantly shovelled out the door. No, the primary role critics play is to help their audience make informed decisions about what they do with their entertainment dollar, instead of just opting to toss it out the window. Yes, that does have a bit of an impact on profit motive, as it might help shape sales somewhat, but when you correlate the numbers, it is, at best, tertiary.
but meh, food for thought at least. He should've chosen Evil Genius. I've played both and I thought EG was the better of the two.
If you base your decisions upon the opinion of a single person (no matter how interesting, amusing, and/or intelligent that person may be), please start bleating because you are SHEEP!
Seriously, isn't that the definition of a 'follower'?
I always take Yahtzee's reviews for what I'm pretty sure he intended them to be- comedy, with perhaps the added bonus of conveying some salient facts about a game. Given the nature of Yahtzee's personality and humor, I recognize that he will most likely focus primarily on the negative aspects of the game he is reviewing, and I look at those criticisms and figure out if they are relevant to my own personal pet peeves.
The control issues are a good example: if Yahtzee says that the controls handled like an ass on stilts strapped to rollerskates and it seems as if some of the challenge of the game is simply overcoming poor controls, then that is going to give me pause because that is something that I HATE.
But as far as the "that you're supposed to be a dick takes the fun out of being a dick", or "the possibility of forming an attachment to your minions to the point that you'd pay to bring them back from the dead is ludicrous" (no, I have not, in fact, named my dining room chairs... yet) criticisms, well, I don't necessarily agree with those opinions, so I ignore them.
I also disagree about his take on the function of critics-- reviews and the like may contribute a bit to the refinement process, but as someone else pointed out, it's all about profit motive, as is thoroughly demonstrated by the steaming mounds of turd-like game sequels that are constantly shovelled out the door. No, the primary role critics play is to help their audience make informed decisions about what they do with their entertainment dollar, instead of just opting to toss it out the window. Yes, that does have a bit of an impact on profit motive, as it might help shape sales somewhat, but when you correlate the numbers, it is, at best, tertiary.
but meh, food for thought at least. He should've chosen Evil Genius. I've played both and I thought EG was the better of the two.
Overlord 1 was so much better than 2. Smarter minions, funnier, more interesting fighting and exploring, and it's only like $10-20. While it seemed like Codemasters knew what it was doing on the surface, they really weren't able to construct a worthy sequel. I heartily recommend Overlord 1, and hope you'll stay far away from 2.
Just a few specific things that drove me insane:
-Town control. Killing/dominating 100 townspeople is one of the most horribly dull and repetitive things I've endured in gaming
-Minions keep returning to your side after killing a single animal/enemy, instead of moving onto the next close foe, forcing you to constantly redeploy them. They fail to pick up life force half the time after killing an animal too.
-Their repetitive voice clips go off constantly, and over top of one another. This is most evident once you have some mounted minions. "Giddy up! Good wolfy! giddgood wolrun run!" Shut up!
-The location to switch mistresses is really far away from the place where you choose decorations. Your active mistress determines your choices, so you're constantly running back and forward to compare decorations. What the hell's the point!?
Just a few specific things that drove me insane:
-Town control. Killing/dominating 100 townspeople is one of the most horribly dull and repetitive things I've endured in gaming
-Minions keep returning to your side after killing a single animal/enemy, instead of moving onto the next close foe, forcing you to constantly redeploy them. They fail to pick up life force half the time after killing an animal too.
-Their repetitive voice clips go off constantly, and over top of one another. This is most evident once you have some mounted minions. "Giddy up! Good wolfy! giddgood wolrun run!" Shut up!
-The location to switch mistresses is really far away from the place where you choose decorations. Your active mistress determines your choices, so you're constantly running back and forward to compare decorations. What the hell's the point!?
you kinda have a point there, sometimes i wonder if we and by WE i mean me and yathse play the same game.
but then i see him riping apart usually the main flaws wich i love "halo 3 being a good rule of thumb by focusing on extremely flawed sp that alot a reviewers seem more than happy overlooking and thus makin spend 60 freaking dollars that i not getting back" , i downloaded both demos from psn and did not care to play it to the end .
but i absolutely see i anyone would like the game , decent controls and graphics and..... O YEAH u get to club baby seals
but then i see him riping apart usually the main flaws wich i love "halo 3 being a good rule of thumb by focusing on extremely flawed sp that alot a reviewers seem more than happy overlooking and thus makin spend 60 freaking dollars that i not getting back" , i downloaded both demos from psn and did not care to play it to the end .
but i absolutely see i anyone would like the game , decent controls and graphics and..... O YEAH u get to club baby seals
