Zero Punctuation: Shadow of the Colossus

[science girl]

Loved the review this week *HI5*

 

[Flishiz]

I feel like Yahtzee far prefers ranting about not reviewing starcraft 2 to the game not actually existing.

 

[Joe Curry-Stodder]

He said "I've yet to play a perfect game."

Didn't he say portal was perfect?

 

[EHKOS]

AWESOME! I've been waiting for this review for sooooooooo long. Feels good to finally see it.....now can you review the first Crash Bandicoot?

Also I agree on the PS2 having some of my favorite games ever. I've made it a mission to collect all of them there are just over two thousand.

 

[Warforger]

RTS is for the thinking man, first person is for the adrenaline junky, I hope you will reconsider.

No. Turn based is for thinking, Real time is mostly about which unit you should spam the most, ESPECIALLY Starcraft 2. In Real time you have no choice but to just make the best unit over and over and send them to your enemy to kill them, all the strategy is gone by late game, but in turn based you have to consider which threats your going to face, what your opponent is going to do and what position your troops should be in for best effect. Some RTS's do this like Ground Control of WiC, but they don't get the attention or sales they deserve.

You don't even play RTS games do you? Cause to say anything close to "there is no strategy, you just spam your best unit" reeks of ignorance of the subject matter.

I guess so if Age Of Mythology (and its expansion), DoW, Ground Control, Age Of Empire's 2 and Red Alert 3 don't count for RTS's. Go play Ground Control and it makes most RTS's look like shit, and its free.

"Ignore all the good RTS games and play the one bad one, then you will agree that RTS games are bad"

Thats.........better?

I don't see how one bad RTS game that I have never heard of defines the whole genre. You most certainly can't just spam the best unit in any RTS I play.

No. It was general.

Ground Control was completely different and in terms of graphics genre defining, when most RTS's still looked like stop motion animations, Ground Control came in and made animations and graphics which defined the graphics for years to come, same with Ground Control 2.

What Ground Control did was that it gave you a mission, in the mission briefing you go to configure your units, upto 12, then you deploy and thats all you have to do the mission, the APC on the other hand would have a regeneration for these units. This provided a much more tactical thinking and valueing your units more then any other RTS had done.

 

[Wolf Devastator]

Shadow of the Colossus

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Shadow of the Colossus.

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You'll never get away with this, Ben Yahtzee Man!

You are bad! You are bad and we are good! Your badness will be the end of you, and our goodness will be our triumph!

Bad is bad - good is good!

Bad, bad, good, bad.

Good-good, bad, good.....bad!

Good.

Thumb Wars: The Phantom Cuticle Qoutes [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206341/quotes]

 

[XenoPenumbra]

The last statement of this review sums up how I feel bout SotC. Now I wish i had a PS2 and the fucking game. I'm craving hard for it

 

[AgentNein]

I think Yahtzee may have just risked losing a chunk of his viewership by disrespecting RTS gamers. Silly, silly man.

I'm sure he'll cry himself to sleep at night worrying about all of the fanboys that would stop watching a show they enjoy because of some imagined slight against their favorite game evar.

Honestly, Yahtzee is a professional troll of sorts (and I say this with love), pissing off people in clever ways is his bread and butter. If he didn't worry about pissing off fans of games before why would he start now?

 

[Eldarion]

RTS is for the thinking man, first person is for the adrenaline junky, I hope you will reconsider.

No. Turn based is for thinking, Real time is mostly about which unit you should spam the most, ESPECIALLY Starcraft 2. In Real time you have no choice but to just make the best unit over and over and send them to your enemy to kill them, all the strategy is gone by late game, but in turn based you have to consider which threats your going to face, what your opponent is going to do and what position your troops should be in for best effect. Some RTS's do this like Ground Control of WiC, but they don't get the attention or sales they deserve.

You don't even play RTS games do you? Cause to say anything close to "there is no strategy, you just spam your best unit" reeks of ignorance of the subject matter.

I guess so if Age Of Mythology (and its expansion), DoW, Ground Control, Age Of Empire's 2 and Red Alert 3 don't count for RTS's. Go play Ground Control and it makes most RTS's look like shit, and its free.

"Ignore all the good RTS games and play the one bad one, then you will agree that RTS games are bad"

Thats.........better?

I don't see how one bad RTS game that I have never heard of defines the whole genre. You most certainly can't just spam the best unit in any RTS I play.

No. It was general.

Ground Control was completely different and in terms of graphics genre defining, when most RTS's still looked like stop motion animations, Ground Control came in and made animations and graphics which defined the graphics for years to come, same with Ground Control 2.

What Ground Control did was that it gave you a mission, in the mission briefing you go to configure your units, upto 12, then you deploy and thats all you have to do the mission, the APC on the other hand would have a regeneration for these units. This provided a much more tactical thinking and valueing your units more then any other RTS had done.

You have to use tactical thinking, fight for map control and preserve your units in Dawn of war. Same with starcraft but you can afford to lose troops if you did more resources in damage to your opponent. I don't know what games you are playing.

 

[Metal Brother]

This was great, if for no other reason than the fact it contained the line "playing Hungry Hungry Hippos backstage at a Dragonforce concert."

 

[Linkassassin360]

Described SOTC just like I would have, except with a bit more wit and much more damn XD

 

[Jamielordofgingers]

I've always wondered what you'd think of a game like this. Coincidently, if you're running through the PS2's back catalogue, any chance of seeing a review of Zone of the Enders 1 or 2?

 

[Adama Chaplin]

lol, im from coventry

 

[ForsakenUK]

I think this is probably the best ZP yet...

 

[Fusionxl]

Blimey, the review was awesome! One of the most entertaining videos in a while

 

[qbanknight]

Great gushing at truly one of the most landmark games ever made, or ever will be made

 

[FightThePower]

I'm glad you're not reviewing Starcraft II. Even if it was crafted by some kind of supernatural being so that it was the pinnacle of RTS games with no flaws whatsoever, you still wouldn't enjoy it, so what's the point? It doesn't matter whether I'm watching my friends play or watching The Ryder Cup, I will still find Golf boring.

 

[TylerC]

Seriously, more adverts before the start of the video? Feeling greedy much?

It costs money to run a site, with employees, and people who make videos such as ZP. Does a 10 second advert really matter that much?

This was definitely one of the better ZPs to date.

 

[Sanmei]

Love to see an Eternal Darkness review, but I suspect Yahtzee didn't like that game.

Dunno, the one time I saw him comment on it, it was in the context of "Silicon Knights doesn't want to do a sequel to it out of a crippling fear of money and success." Then again, Yahtzee does acknowledge on many occasions that some games are ridiculously successful for no good reason.

*Loved that game too*

 

[Something Amyss]

I have nothing against SC, but it was funny watching Yahtzee rip into it.