Did you play any of these recently? Cause i think you underestimate just how different the combat systems are from each other. It's like night and day, th same way Bushido Blade stands out. Not much of a BB fan though, i have played a lot of Two Player in it during the years (as recently as last month), i think it's fun enough, but it's also fairly broken imo. Sequel might be better though, haven't tried it yet.Lightknight said:
Because like it or not Nintendo is a company and companies have to justify expenditure to their investors and shareholders.Look at the sales figures for those 2 seriesNazulu said:
They are not the same business they used to be. All the teams have changed, and there decisions hasn't really been an aim to improve.MetalDooley said:
F-Zero GX is the best one in the series imo and was critically acclaimed by reviewers and fans when it released.Didn't stop it from being the worst selling one in the series by farNazulu said:
Funny how one of the biggest criticisms Nintendo get is how they never try new things yet at the same time people just want them to keep making the same stuff over and over
And yet the numbers would suggest that people actually aren't interested in those genres.Or at least not enough people to justify new games
I've not found them to be enriching, but rather ranging from distracting, annoying or useless altogether. Not once has it enriched or enhanced my gameplay in either Demon's or Dark Souls. Its a waste of code for people to be pseudo-clever, trollish or downright ignorant of how not-clever they are.mronoc said:
...dammit my LP's gonna be a long one then. >.<TheomanZero said:
Yeah, I've played them recently and have played them growing up. They have different graphics, some minor differences in controls and some various techniques that usually center around the characters. But in most cases, you could make one large fighting game with all of the characters from all the others and make it work.MrBaskerville said:
Not sure why he did decide to roll with that, but it was first introduced in his ancient webcomic Yahtzee Takes On The World. A short origin story for the name was that he was suffering from amnesia and decided to just pick a name for himself by listening to someone's conversation. So in a conversation (where the name Ben was mentioned quite a few times) it ended by someone talking about Yahtzee and when he herd Yahtzee he picked that. So it is a reference to the dice game. Sorry that I am a little fuzzy on the details, it's been about 7 years since I read the series.Xsjadoblayde said:
The guy with a gun was unstoppable.Zachary Amaranth said:
Your simplifying this way too much. The Gamecube didn't sell well in general and who knows why that is. At the time it seemed because it was competing against the legendary PS2 and it's massive library. I reckon it would of sold a shit ton more if they managed to appeal to as many people with a big 3rd party support. However, the perception has changed now and it would be interesting to see how an F-Zero would do now.MetalDooley said:
True the GC didn't sell particularly well but it did sell around 22 million units.I'd imagine however that most of the people who bought a GC were big Nintendo fans so the poor sales of first party franchises like Starfox and F-Zero stand out even moreNazulu said:
Given that the futuristic racer genre has pretty much disappeared then I'm guessing not well.If there was a market for these games don't you think someone would be making them
All I did was post some numbers and postulate that maybe the reason they're not making those games is because people weren't buying them.if anything you're the one being passive agressive posting things like "Go on,you're so smart"
From a purely business perspective which is what I was aiming at to begin with the numbers explain plenty.Nintendo will have seen the plummeting sales numbers and likely decided that there's not enough public interest to justify new games.Put it this way if you owned your own business and sales for a particular product you manufactured halved with each new version you released would you keep making it?
And you can prove this yes?At least I have solid figures to back up my claims
Never said that.I made the case that from a business perspective continuing to produce a failing product makes no sense.I never said they shouldn't try new stuff
No in fact I hope they continue to do more stuff like publishing Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 and working on original IPs aswell as their established franchises
And yet I'm not the one who's looking for another Lylat Wars
I'd say those games just didn't stick out enough as I only found out about them later. SSB Melee didn't even get an ad in Australia, I only knew of it from magazines. Saying there isn't a market for them is a load, genre's don't just suddenly get ignored, but they can get sequels that aren't as good or poorly marketed. There could be a market for them again if so many developers/publishers weren't chicken shit and not try to copy the last successful franchises.MetalDooley said:True the GC didn't sell particularly well but it did sell around 22 million units.I'd imagine however that most of the people who bought a GC were big Nintendo fans so the poor sales of first party franchises like Starfox and F-Zero stand out even moreNazulu said:
Given that the futuristic racer genre has pretty much disappeared then I'm guessing not well.If there was a market for these games don't you think someone would be making them
All I did was post some numbers and postulate that maybe the reason they're not making those games is because people weren't buying them.if anything you're the one being passive agressive posting things like "Go on,you're so smart"
From a purely business perspective which is what I was aiming at to begin with the numbers explain plenty.Nintendo will have seen the plummeting sales numbers and likely decided that there's not enough public interest to justify new games.Put it this way if you owned your own business and sales for a particular product you manufactured halved with each new version you released would you keep making it?
And you can prove this yes?At least I have solid figures to back up my claims
Never said that.I made the case that from a business perspective continuing to produce a failing product makes no sense.I never said they shouldn't try new stuff
No in fact I hope they continue to do more stuff like publishing Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 and working on original IPs aswell as their established franchises
And yet I'm not the one who's looking for another Lylat Wars
", because there are so many games like Lylat Wars right? You can't even find a game that's similar to it now so your point is weak and so you're not convincing anyone. In fact, all your points are weak and this 'judging by numbers from awhile ago' (which only explains what sold, not why) is exactly one reason the industry has become so bland and repetitive.
