Zero Punctuation: Torchlight
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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School for dolphin telegraph operators had me rolling on the floor. Fantastic.
Because absolutely everybody who is somebody in the games industry (and everybody who is nobody) watches Yahtzee. If he had a content badge, we'd all have it.signingupforgames said:
Agree with Yahtzee on this one. The game's cool at first, and then you realised that that's all you're getting. Shmeh.
For you people who somehow haven't heard of Torchlight, that laser attack he's referring to is called Ember Lance. I'm surprised he didn't like it, but I guess we've never heard him review Diablo 2 now have we? Spoiler alert: this game plays exactly like diablo 2, down to the same music guy and everything.
I should have clarified that I meant they're not your usual Swathes of "Ultra-Realistic" Brown like most modern games, with their life like graphics. Torchlight's graphics aren't ridiculous in the fact they're functional, they don't need to look life like nor overly cartoony.PxDn Ninja said:
And a blatant rip from Warcraft? Oh, God forbid any game ever using cartoony graphics. Torchlight uses exaggerated proportions and less realism than Warcraft, it doesn't make it a "blatant rip" in any way. Chances are it's inspired by Warcraft, don't forget the makers of Torchlight have worked on Diablo and other games.
There is a story to Torchlight, but it's not story heavy and that's something I enjoy about it.
I will agree that they are functional graphics in that you clearly see what is going on, so we can see eye to eye on that. As for the Warcraft comparison, it isn't that it just uses a similar style, it uses the exact same style. One of the biggest complaints I have always had about Warcraft is the graphics are abhorrent. Same thing can be said about this game for me.coldalarm said:
Don't assume this means I hate cartoon graphics, I actually really like them. Just some games don't pull it off quite right, and this is one of them. I will say, I don't know what I would change to make it better while keeping the cartoon graphics, but something really is needed to make the game look better (of course, graphics aren't everything, and with good gameplay I could overlook the graphics).
As for the story, when I said lacking I did mean that the story just wasn't much. True, just like Diablo, it does HAVE a story, but the story doesn't really matter. It doesn't have any sort of hook, and the only reason to go into the dungeon is to get more loot, not advance any plot or similar progression marker. I'm fine with games not having in depth stories, but a title like this needs a story. Without it, you simply are fighting mobile treasure chests and collecting gold. That is only fun for an hour or two (or to word it better, it is 4 dollars fun, not $20).
The game does exactly what it was intended to do: be a spiritual successor to Diablo and attract fans of that title. It pulls this off perfectly, as it is simply a watered down and reskined Diablo. If that is what someone is after, then this game truly is perfect for them, however if you want more depth to your game, and more purpose to events then this title isn't the one to get.
I'm shaking my head in amazement at how many people here seem to be unable to grasp the concept behind Zero Punctuation. Every. Single. Video. there are at least a dozen people who have to argue "why didn't you like this game", like it's a direct personal affront to them if he suggests that anyone might not have had the same experience they did. Seriously, go right back to the start of the series on the Escapist, he says it right there in the Bioshock review: "[sic] people don't like me when I'm being nice." These videos would not be at all amusing if he focused on what was good about the subject, just like a tragedy would not be poignant if it had a happy ending. If you find this difficult to bear, then don't watch it, and certainly don't comment on it. Leave it to those of us who have the maturity to laugh at ourselves. Oblivion may have been one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences of my life, but I still laughed when he reviewed it; I wasn't mortally offended that he apparently thought less of it than I did.
Oh, and for those people who insist on pointing out the slight liberties he takes with the truth in the name of comedy, to quote Picasso: "Art is not the truth, it is a lie which enables us to see the truth more clearly."
Oh, and for those people who insist on pointing out the slight liberties he takes with the truth in the name of comedy, to quote Picasso: "Art is not the truth, it is a lie which enables us to see the truth more clearly."
I wish we had a system to promote great posts because you would earn a promotion from me. I was the same about the Brutal Legend review. He ripped it, I loved the game, and I loved his review of it. It is a comedy video and he does it great.Shamanic Rhythm said:
When you love a game and he rips it, enjoy the comedy. When you hate a game and he rips it, enjoy great comedy.
I enjoyed Torchlight for the first 4 hours or so but now I've just kinda lost interest in it. It's left sitting on my hard-drive not doing much, and I've been busy playing other, better games. It just feels very samey after a while, there aren't any nice outdoor locations except one small town and the rest of the time is spent running around in dull, dark, grey caverns fighting hordes of monsters over and over again in fairly repetitive battles.
Well said!Shamanic Rhythm said:
good good, very funny. when is he gonna get to silent hill : shattered memories?? that game SUCKED (by silent hill standards), i can't wait for him to tear it a new one.
Torchlight rocks. My only complaint is that as a ranged class, if you click ever so slightly to the side of a monster, you end up running to that spot. Especially when the monster is a quick one that scurries around, you'll need an AoE attack to nail it, or wait until it resumes a predictable movement path.
Funniest ZP in a goodly while. I completely disagree with nearly everything Yahtzee said, apart from the nonexistant difficulty curve on normal mode. This game + steam sale = merry christmas for spindleweed.
To dthvirus, hold shift while rangespamming
To dthvirus, hold shift while rangespamming