Zero Punctuation: Torchlight

NoNameMcgee

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dthvirus said:
Torchlight rocks. My only complaint is that as a ranged class, if you click ever so slightly to the side of a monster, you end up running to that spot. Especially when the monster is a quick one that scurries around, you'll need an AoE attack to nail it, or wait until it resumes a predictable movement path.
You can press control, or shift, or something, to stand still while firing.
 

Volafortis

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The game is fun, definitely worth it if you can get it cheap on Steam, it's quite good for a Diablo clone, and also, yes, the game is rather easy, but I enjoyed it, played through it on hard as an alchemist (lol), and hard quite a bit of fun sending hordes of minions after bosses.

Plus, it has modding capabilities, so that just makes it better.
 

Ren3004

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signingupforgames said:
Why is it that Yahtzee is the only show without content badges?
It's not the only one, ENN doesn't have badges either (that I know of).
 

Du Jour Jaricho

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Whoops, I already bought it, and basically every other Diablo/rogue fan on the internet. Try to get here a bit sooner next time Yahtzee.
 

Niko Stepz

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I tried the demo for Torchlight and loved it! All the mindless fun and mobs is wheat appealed to me though, so I guess its just differing opinions :p
 

dthvirus

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AverageJoe said:
dthvirus said:
Torchlight rocks. My only complaint is that as a ranged class, if you click ever so slightly to the side of a monster, you end up running to that spot. Especially when the monster is a quick one that scurries around, you'll need an AoE attack to nail it, or wait until it resumes a predictable movement path.
You can press control, or shift, or something, to stand still while firing.
Really? Awesome. Thanks.
 

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
Speaking as a card-carrying Yahtzee fanboy,I happen to think the whole "but saying bad things in what he does" defence is a load of tosh. ZP's entertainment value, in my eyes at least, lies in sharp assessments on foolish or ridiculous elements of a game supported by wonderful, colourful language. If the man is spending too long skewering a minor or irrelevant point* for the sake of negativity, it's like watching a master boxer fight a weeble doll - faintly amusing, but not as impressive or joyous. If his criticism is factually wrong, then what is the point in bringing it to light. And being positive is not necessarily dull, if it represents genuine enthusiasm. Look at the Prototype review for a good example, which single-handedly sold me a game I enjoyed very much.

I agree people should be a little less sensitive about a guy who is honest about a guy who is not even pretending to be anything but rampantly opinionated (thank god "objective judgement" of entertainment is a dodgy idea at best) but pretending Yahtzee never makes mistakes or should give up on conveying his impressions "cuz its funnier" is equally silly.

*Incidentally, I didn't really feel the TL review was unrepresentative. The AC2 was the best/worst example - dissecting superfluous and pointless amounts of cash, a flaw of every game ever made ever, in reviewing a game that was supposedly enjoyable was surely a mis-step.
 

Mr.Gompers

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The whole using a pet to sell stuff back at the village reminds me of the game FATE, also for the computer. Actually, so does the village.
 

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Aleate said:
Why does every "rpg" nowadays need a dog?
Why is that? Why not an iguana? Iguanas are nice and they eat bugs, which many dungeons have.
El_Lazor said:
I'm just surprised he reviewed it now considering it came out back in NOVEMBER.
Well there is also the fact he lives in Australia and has to wait for it to be released there, and/or wait til he gets through other games, and/or is able to take advantage of Steam sales and make his budget look shiny. Still feeling surprised?
I spent my $3 on a taco value meal instead, and after this review I feel better about my investment. I do prefer a bit of a challenge in my games, as well as less the feeling that it wants to give me some wrist or hand disorder.
 

SonicKoala

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It's been a while since I found one of these reviews so funny - the game sounds like a pretty good bargain for 3 dollars; anymore than that, however, just seems like a waste.
 

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The Irrelevant Gamer said:
BlueInkAlchemist said:
Being a fan of the original Diablo and especially Diablo II, I think I might enjoy this game if I were to pick it up. However, I can see where some of the bits might get tedious. I'm also an MMO player, though, so incredibly boring things that take hours to play are right up my alley.

Jokes, snark, visual humor and rapid pace - this is trademark, quality ZP.
If you liked Diablo you'll enjoy Torchlight. It doesn't have the same level of atmosphere, but the gameplay is nearly identical. Even some of the music is similar, and the identify and town portal scrolls are the same color. Apparently some of the original Diablo devs worked on Torchilight, and it shows.

Not just some of the original developers, but also the same person that wrote the music for Diablo 1 and 2. Which might be part of the reason why it sounds so similar. ^^
 

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Yahtzee, Yahtzee, Yahtzee...In The Witcher it was bad that you click on the enemy only once, and in Torchlight it's bad that you don't? I'm all for satire and entertainment, but let's try and keep some consistency man!
 

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I'm of the opinion that hack 'n slash action rpg's works best on consoles - my hands hurt after too many hours of diablo, but the baldur's gate dark alliance, fallout and champions of norrath games on PS2 - which are basically diablo clones, (especially the first BG: Dark Alliance game which has ripped everything from diablo 2 except the lenght, the game is ridiculously short and linear) plays really well with the ps2 controller.

But still, I liked the Torchlight demo, and will probably buy the game once they start selling the physical product. I like having the game box, and think Steam is pretty stupid. Twice the price for games you'll lose the moment someone manages to crack your password or Valve goes out of business. It's ridiculously similar to Diablo, yeah sure, the same people made it, but the town music is not much more than a remix of the tristram song from Diablo, the UI is identical ... there is no innovation whatsoever, but still I did enjoy playing it.
 

Arcthelad

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I've only played the demo, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but can't you just hold the attack button to engage and eventually kill monsters?
 

RTR

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I don' know why but every time Yahtzee mentions any kind of food in his reviews, I suddenly get a craving for it.
 

FallenMessiah88

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Awesome review. This is the only other video review i have seen of this game, apart from one that was sent on a game show here in Denmark. Seemed like a nice little game. Really simple and atmospheric. But i think i will wait for Diablo 3 though.
 

Levethian

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Diablo 1&2 were dull too. BUT then multi-player attacked and it became dangerously addictive. Like gambling, but for pixels. Torchlight will find its place when their multi-player version is released. This represents a 'good start'.