Aw the titlesong is back... no fun, but yeah I bought it because it was cheap and ppl say it is good, but meh. I wish I had spend my money on an ice cream instead,
Zero Punctuation: Torchlight
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It's official, Yahtzee does not like Torchlight, he has no soul.
While most of what he says is just his opinion and therefore neither here nor there (although the fact he didn't find the interface very intuitive amazes me), he actually got one important part of the review drastically, unforgivably wrong - you don't have to click for each attack, you can hold down the mouse button and your character will keep attacking the same enemy until it dies. Even if you're no longer hovering your mouse pointer over it. This is actually one of the most meaningful improvements the game has over Diablo - it's far less of a click-fest in so many ways - a lot of the shopping is also streamlined and uses shift-clicks and ctrl-clicks to automate a lot of the really boring stuff like dragging things over from one inventory to another etc. He's sure getting sloppy, gone are the days of stuff like the Bioshock review where he actually honed in very precisely on what was really wrong with the game. I guess a couple years' worth of deadlines must finally be getting to him. I think he needs a couple of months off.
While most of what he says is just his opinion and therefore neither here nor there (although the fact he didn't find the interface very intuitive amazes me), he actually got one important part of the review drastically, unforgivably wrong - you don't have to click for each attack, you can hold down the mouse button and your character will keep attacking the same enemy until it dies. Even if you're no longer hovering your mouse pointer over it. This is actually one of the most meaningful improvements the game has over Diablo - it's far less of a click-fest in so many ways - a lot of the shopping is also streamlined and uses shift-clicks and ctrl-clicks to automate a lot of the really boring stuff like dragging things over from one inventory to another etc. He's sure getting sloppy, gone are the days of stuff like the Bioshock review where he actually honed in very precisely on what was really wrong with the game. I guess a couple years' worth of deadlines must finally be getting to him. I think he needs a couple of months off.
*sigh* I find it hard to laugh about something that I don't care for. Oh well, I'll just wait till next week.
Good vid. I'm annoyed i didn't get this during the steam sale. i was overdrawn at the worst possible time; all the banks were closed and steam were practically giving games away.
try holding down left click Yahtzee, its called auto attack. You DO NOT have to click every time you want to attack. This even works with alt attack....
Oh and try it on Very Hard with Hardcore enabled if you wanted the challenge.
Aside from that the puns and jokes were funny, but again you reviewed the game like it was bad which is the complete opposite of all the other reviews. Do you actually like the Diablo series?
Oh and try it on Very Hard with Hardcore enabled if you wanted the challenge.
Aside from that the puns and jokes were funny, but again you reviewed the game like it was bad which is the complete opposite of all the other reviews. Do you actually like the Diablo series?
It's cool, it's not for everyone. I appreciate the near zen-like mode the game puts you in. Loot, kill, loot, kill, loot, kill, OOH UPGRADE, kill etc.Jaranja said:
Agreed. I have to say I was left unimpressed by that review, and not just because I'm a Torchlight fan.BonsaiK said:
Compared to current RPGs (that is Dragon Age: Origins, Neverwinter Nights I suppose, Borderlands, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Drakensang, Oblivion and the swathe of MMORPGs), Torchlight is a standout title. It's got a low selling price, it's got functional graphics that aren't ridiculous, it's easy enough to understand (although I'd say the itemisation is a bit messy), and it's fun.
I have paid more for games I've played for less than Torchlight. There are no Dungeon Running games that I can think of that are as recent or as successful as Torchlight, at least not since the days of Diablo 2. It's a back-to-basics game (as Yahtzee pointed out) that manages to not suck. It's proof that indie games can do extremely well and that you don't need to stay modern to do well.
I think what he said at the end is right. I also bought it for super cheap on the Steam sale, and for that price it's great. It's a fun, cartoony romp through a dungeon that gets boring after a few hours, but for a little bit it's pretty fun.
It was well worth the price.
It was well worth the price.
Seriously? It's pretty widely accepted that she's easy mode (although Torchlight is ridiculously easy to begin with, and anyone who's ever used a keyboard and mouse before should probably start on at least hard). You don't need any support once you get up a few levels and get the exploding shot that flattens entire rooms in a few hits. From there on, you just march through the game firing off a bunch of those ahead of you whenever you enter a room/new area, and everything dies, no questions asked. You don't need any other skills or spells or anything, or even your pet.njsykora said:
This review does have some good points about the kinds of things that can get annoying in the game. It's by no means perfect; I'd say good (if you're into that sort of thing), but not great. Oddly enough, I always hated the Diablo games, but I was at least entertained enough by Torchlight to play it through once, and it was worth the sale price. I wouldn't pay the regular price of $20 for it, but that's what Steam weekend/holiday sales are for. Titan Quest is still my favorite hack and slash, though.
I hope so. It seems like the sort of game he might like, since it's Diablo With Guns, but it has so much style, doesnt take itself seriously, and has a decent (if reference-based) level of writing.
Next, week, I hope.
Next, week, I hope.
Funny review as usual. Don't agree with his assessment of it. I got it off the Steam sale (sadly at $10 instead of $5) and haven't regretted the purchase. I installed it on my home PC and my work laptop (which, thanks to the pitiful system requirements runs quite well) and thanks to cloud saving I can basically play it wherever I want.
If you haven't played the game, try out the demo. It is worth it, unless you do not like Diablo or Diablo-type games, because at times TL just feels like a very sophisticated Diablo Mod.
If you haven't played the game, try out the demo. It is worth it, unless you do not like Diablo or Diablo-type games, because at times TL just feels like a very sophisticated Diablo Mod.
I personally liked that the review addressed my own personal relationship with Torchlight. I remember downloading the demo, then saying to myself, "Well, gee, it's a nice enough little game, but do I want to pay 20 bucks for a shinier, fresher incarnation of the exact same game I've played a half-dozen times through?" And then there was the Steam holiday sale, which is the entire reason I own Torchlight. And Audiosurf, Painkiller, and a big bulging pack of adventure games, come to think of it, but now I've strayed off topic.
I'd argue that this game was significantly more rewarding than an ice cream sandwich (for the price), but I also immediately installed a mod that re-skinned the warrior class as a blood-covered Brock Samson, so I suppose the full credit for my enthusiasm must be split among the game proper, the editor tools, and the fan community.
I'd argue that this game was significantly more rewarding than an ice cream sandwich (for the price), but I also immediately installed a mod that re-skinned the warrior class as a blood-covered Brock Samson, so I suppose the full credit for my enthusiasm must be split among the game proper, the editor tools, and the fan community.