BioWare "Falsely Advertised" Mass Effect 3

[dubious_wolf]

I think this is an excellent example of "know your audience."
I don't think anyone is going to be bringing a class action anytime soon, but it does indicate that EA, and by association BioWare are all disingenuous.

EDITED for clarity.

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Considering I gave up on ME2 when they went Gears of War and dropped the inventory system I love so much from KotOR. I was fully prepared for a piece of shit woot!

It's funny the games weren't even that long when you get right down to it. The story is maybe 5 missions for ME1 and then like 6 for ME2? the rest is filler and errands for various characters. I guess if you get really engrossed in logistics, scavenger hunts, and your weekend shopping list, getting absorbed by the side missions is pretty much inevitable.

 

[Darkmantle]

This is stupid. This is moronic. I never want to hear the words "Mass Effect" again. All interest I had in the games has evaporated after this whole mess, even after all the ME-tards spoiling everything every chance they got didn't make me give up.

You are consumers. Sometimes you're dissatisfied. Sometimes you expect Jesus Christ to come down and personally hand you a game that will blow your mind, and you whine and cry when you get an above-average but overall unfinished and slapdash experience of an ending. Do you know what they could have done? They could have had Shepard press a button that would have a big effect one way or another and a white light and then cut to credits. They could have had it all be a dream, for fuck sakes. Would you have whined and cried any more than you have now?

I completely fail to understand the point of your post. Are you asking if, assuming the ending was different but just as shit, we would still complain? Well I would I assume so, I mean, the ending was bad, if we had an equally bad but different one I fail to see how that would change anything

 

[BreakfastMan]

Yeah, she obviously did very little research into this. If she did, she would know that the FTC complaint against Bioware is complete garbage and would be laughed out of court.

Also, Peter Molyneux better watch his words now, less he be hit with FTC complaints... Also, who wants to file FTC complaints against Axed for not giving me all the chicks if I wear their body-spray?

 

[Brad Shepard]

No, they're getting sued for false advertising, not because the ending sucked (even though it did) but because the choices that you had at the ending achieved nothing. Hell, is it even possible to fail mass effect 3? If I rushed through the game and didn't collect war assets, picking the worst choices, I would still beat the reapers.

There wasn't meaningful choices. At all.

Do you REALLY feel they deserved this? Games marketing ALWAYS promises more than the game could deliver. Why is Bioware being singled out?

Because they lied? They promised so much, like us not getting a A B C choice ending, and that's what we got, we got promised that our choices mattered, they did not, there going down the road that capcom has been on for years, and this is coming from a Mass Effect fan, if you cant tell by my Screen Name.

 

[PrototypeC]

I completely fail to understand the point of your post. Are you asking if, assuming the ending was different but just as shit, we would still complain? Well I would I assume so, I mean, the ending was bad, if we had an equally bad but different one I fail to see how that would change anything

Point? You want a point? It's more of a rant on my overall frustration with this coddled, entitled attitude that not one person deserves to have, let alone thousands or tens of thousands. I don't understand the point of involving the trade commission with feeling personally butthurt, but it happened anyway.

 

[Radeonx]

Wow, this is fucking stupid.
Stupid overreactions like this do no good for the gaming industry. The RPG market was dwindling as is, and this is only going to make it even worse.
The ending wasn't even that bad, anyways.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

No, they're getting sued for false advertising, not because the ending sucked (even though it did) but because the choices that you had at the ending achieved nothing. Hell, is it even possible to fail mass effect 3? If I rushed through the game and didn't collect war assets, picking the worst choices, I would still beat the reapers.

There wasn't meaningful choices. At all.

You could rescue an ancient race from extinction, or finish the job the krogan started.

You could reunite a race of machines with their creators and end centuries of pointless conflict, or end it with genocide.

You could save a race from slow extinction and give them a new beginning in a new galactic setting, or do the same, but with your mistakes installing in power those who would let history repeat itself.

You could do all this, and more...but in the end, all you need is a heartbeat and a handgun. And hopefully, you're not colorblind. Otherwise, you'd have trouble telling the endings apart.

I personally prefer this theory:

Do you REALLY feel they deserved this? Games marketing ALWAYS promises more than the game could deliver. Why is Bioware being singled out?

Alright. Do you have an example? Where official game marketing promises specific things that are not in the game, that is. "Intense gameplay," "An epic story," and "Vibrant gameworld" are not specific things, by the way. They're subjective traits and are thus always up for debate.

Promising "the decisions you make completely shape your experience and outcome" is something which is objectively untrue. Everyone who finished Mass Effect got one of three endings, all of which were alarmingly similar to each other. I won't say it's a great thing to base a legal complaint on, but it's certainly a thing, which is more than 'this ending sucks' can say.

 

[Darkmantle]

I completely fail to understand the point of your post. Are you asking if, assuming the ending was different but just as shit, we would still complain? Well I would I assume so, I mean, the ending was bad, if we had an equally bad but different one I fail to see how that would change anything

Point? You want a point? It's more of a rant on my overall frustration with this coddled, entitled attitude that not one person deserves to have, let alone thousands or tens of thousands. I don't understand the point of involving the trade commission with feeling personally butthurt, but it happened anyway.

well fuck, I figured since you were posting on a discussion forum, I figured you may want to have a little chat about it, but if all you wanted to do is vent and babble on, more power to ya.

 

[AnarchistAbe]

This makes me want to scream. Entitled douchebags, all of you. No arguments, deep down you all know its true.

Where were all of you on my other post? I made one pointing out that these over-entitled fans should be labeled as "Massholes" and condemned, but the entire post ended up getting flooded with Massholes butthurt about my name calling and tried to tear me a new one.

Glad to see I'm not alone in thinking this is a dead issue.

I've been laughing for like 5 minutes about the term "Massholes" xD That is fantastic!

 

[Genixma]

I wonder if the Mass Effect 3 ending is a biggerdisappointment to fans then Duke Nukem Forever's release was...huh.

And now I wait for someone to ask me not to compare the two.

 

[mfeff]

That is choice you can take to the bank!

 

[PrototypeC]

...but if all you wanted to do is vent and babble on, more power to ya.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Thank you.

 

[Darkmantle]

...but if all you wanted to do is vent and babble on, more power to ya.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Thank you.

Your welcome

 

[Valanthe]

Of all the things I expected to see this afternoon when I arrived for my weekly dose of Feed Dump and Yatzhee, this was not on the list...

I don't even know what to say... the FTC Complaint guys were in the right? Seriously?

captcha: Question Everything, no kidding, I think I must have woke up in Bizarro-World without realizing it...

 

[Brian Hendershot]

Am I the only one that stopped caring? I mean, I consider myself a pretty big Mass Effect fan and thought the ending sucked but I just kinda no longer care.

 

[Pumpkin_Eater]

Here I was thinking that it would be because the ads contain no in game footage, only pre-rendered scenes made specifically for the ads. It would be like a movie trailer made from other movies.

 

[Chosen_Chaos]

The ending is not specifically the "outcome". Many of the outcomes were decided well before the last 10 minutes of the game as in which civilzations survived and which didnt. The "outcome" extends far beyond the final cut scenes.

I agree with this, but it is a self-undoing argument. Shpoilers

At the end of the day, regardless of what you did in any of the games, the Reapers are no more, everyone is utterly stranded in their home system to perish. That is a constant. Maybe the little details are different (destroy ending: same as above, but now you have to clean up Reaper mess) synthesis: everyone glows, I guess. Control: as above.

Right, the "everyone who comes to Earth to help with the final push is trapped and starves" argument, which is not quite accurate. Firstly, there are other forms of FTL travel that don't include the mass relays, but they're a lot slower, so it'd take longer to return home.

Which leads onto the next idea, namely that appropriate food-production systems can by jury-rigged from all of the scrap now cluttering up the Sol system. If you have the quarians with you, it becomes easier to see how it would work.

Jokes on the gamers! Now, we'll get the same exact ending to every fucking game. The safe, happy ending that nobody has grounds to complain about. Thank you, "retakers". Thank you for your entitled douchebaggery.

Are you saying that games endings and stories now are just fine? I agree that "retake Mass Effect" is a bit of a pretentious name, with it never being ours in the first place. But how can you say a demand for coherent interesting story from game developers is going to blow up in our face and give us even LESS ambitious story telling?

It's possible that developers will push out bland, generic stories in an attempt to avoid the kind of backlash that's happened with ME3, deciding that the risk isn't worth it.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Well, it's not like any of the decisions you made in any of the games changed their respective ending in anyway. It boiled down to 'Save the council/Don't save the council' and 'Keep the Collector base/ Don't keep the collector base.' Nothing else done throughout the games changed those endings(Except for the post ending bit in ME2 were some of your team might be dead, the equivalent of which can easily be added to 3 via DLC, but, ultimately didn't change the ending in any way.), I don't see why people have tantrums because the third game followed suit.

The first game was setting the tone, setting up long reaching choices that probably wouldn't make a damn bit of difference in the near future, we were pretty much told that and shown that in every aspect of play, the ending was satisfying and the little choice we had still fit because they were big choices.

With ME2 I have to disagree, the ending did in no way boil down to 'Keep/Destroy Collector Base', that was the minor part, but yet, still with long reaching consequences we could expect to see later on, the true bulk of ME2s ending was your squad, I think decision played a huge part in that ending, there is a massive difference between potentially losing some of your closest squadmates who have potentially been around since the first game and choosing a different coloured laser.

 

[The_Waspman]

Oh no. No no no. Why did someone even vaguely official have to comment on this?

People are acting like this is the first time that false advertising has been used ever. Do people still actually pay any attention to advertising these days? And believe it? I think this is the problem.

 

[The Lugz]

yay, let's justify people's nerd-rage so they feel smart instead of dumb

way to go law!

/sigh
mass effect 3 was all-ways doing to create whining but I never expected this level of melodrama
I'm just glad I never invested myself in the franchise that much