BioWare Tackles Strategy with Command & Conquer Generals 2

[stewox]

I must have missed all those people asking for a sequel to a ten-year old spin-off game that nobody really cared about in the first place.

It's almost like making a sequel to Resident Evil Gaiden.

GENZH is one of the most active games on moddb.com

 

[Frost27]

Generals was fantastic. With Bioware on the job, at least its a safe bet the writing won't be terrible.

Judging by that teaser it looks pretty damn nice too. Hope they don't screw up.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Fast-paced?! Noooo I want my Generals to be slow and plodding! Like the original was, if I remember correctly. That was why I could actually play it. Dammit I hope they're not just sneakingly saying that they're going to make another Company of Heroes clone. That would make me very sad.

But hey, at least Tito can say that this game will have modern looking graphics, since it is running off Frostbite 2.

I was actually thinking about sweet-ass destruction, explosions and physics.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

If they keep the old Generals feeling, this will be the first good move of EA in years.
I loved the original, I hope I will enjoy this one too.

 

[Frostbite3789]

My problem with distribution is not really how it's done, but just not restricted to going through Origin like BF3 which IMO is a horrible experience and (for me) a game breaker. Not to mention, god forbid you say (or are quoted by someone) something thats remotely 'bad' on their forums they lock you out of everything EA you own whether you bought it through Origin or anywhere else.

Steam has that aspect right, you can be a down right troll on their forums you get banned from that but unless you are caught cheating on one of their VAC games you are only locked out of the MP portion of the game.

The second part, yes, that's garbage, but that's an easy change they'll more than likely make.

As for the first part...what? Steam is even worse about that. Even games not even developed by Valve are now requiring you to use Steam to even install it. Single player games even.

See: Skyrim and Saints Row the Third and Dead Island. I was super happy I couldn't play Dead Island for about a week because Steam support didn't respond to my claim that Steam was saying my CD key was already in use. Good 'ole DRM.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Not the same, I already use Steawhich means $120 for a game. Steam does not do this.

I have some Australian friends who would like to have a word.

 

[wooty]

The first generals hit me like a brick, I didnt really like the series until that game, and its awesome mods.

Heres hoping this will provide even more hours of gleefully dropping that black napalm all over the place.

 

[TheComfyChair]

The GLA got money from murdering enemies and their Black Market generated a steady stream of cash iirc. It's been a while since I played it though, so I might be misremembering.

This is true, but you only get the money from killing people if you spent your (general?) points in upgrading it... I've been playing it again with the shockwave mod, it's awesome

The US cash drops were the 'tier 2' incomes and in fact were problematic as the money only came in every 2 minutes per pad, and the supplies sometimes missed (meaning you had to mop them up to get the money).

The most reliable tier 2 income supply was the GLA black market for both bringing in a decent amount of cash (same as 4 chinese hackers at default) and being hard to destroy compared to the US drop pad and especially the hacker. The 'drops' for upgrading tanks/quad cannons ect. only dropped if one of those units killed the enemy iirc.

The chinese hackers were by far the best for income if they survived (a fully promoted hacker generated half as much as a black market on his own), but being an infantry unit they are vulnerable. Constructing the building for the hackers to use wasn't much better either, as suddenly you've made a single target that houses as much income as 4 black markets! Infantry generals with stealth hackers ftw.

The tier one incomes were the workers (GLA), supply trucks (China) and the chinooks (US). The amount of money they brought in was proportional to their cost. The worker was the best one simply because he also served as the construction unit.

Yay for playing generals a lot when i was 14

 

[chaos order]

its such a shame bioware used to be such a good developer, until they took an an arrow to the knee that is EA. (stupid joke ya i know)

OT: i loved generals. IMO its the best C&C. but bioware making a RTS?
That doesnt even make sense bioware is known for their RPGs, good writing, and good characters. (Da2 characters not included...except varric...and maybe isabella.)

 

[tetron]

Totally called this back when they had that 3 seconds of footage.

Making an rts game these days is pointless, Starcraft 2 IS the rts genre and will be for some time to come.

 

[MetalGenocide]

Provided the world doesn't end soon...*laughs*... a lot of promising titles are coming.
This one, is not one of them. At least, not yet.
I hope it doesn't get fucked up as hard as the last C&CwhichIwillnotname.

In the meantime, I will be waiting for that Generals pony mod.

 

[Wicky_42]

I'm all good with a new decent RTS, especially one that looks as pretty as that. I'm not really sure what Frostbite will bring to the table (other that insane graphics card requirements, lol) - it could just be a flashy gimmick, but it could also make the best looking RTS ever I can remember the first time I played through Company of Heroes, revelling in the sheer carnage and terrain destruction that game had, with peaceful towns being reduced to smouldering ruins by the battle... Frostbite could really deliver in that regard, and Bioware could even look to make some pretty strong statements on the nature of war through the medium. Whether they will is another matter, of course

 

[Michael Hirst]

I Still remember the original Generals game. That was imbalanced beyond belief, USA could get insane amounts of cash and could watch every movement the enemy made.

All in all the game was racist as fuck too.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Not the same, I already use Steawhich means $120 for a game. Steam does not do this.

I have some Australian friends who would like to have a word.

Errrr.. Steam's prices for Aussie users are in USD.... it's just that the numbers after the '$' are ones Australians are familiar with (eg, USD $89.99 for LA Noir)... which is sorta okay when the currencies are near parity in their worth but a right facefucking at other times... and even at parity it's usually no cheaper than physical retail so, except for Sales, Steam generally isn't a money saver for us.

 

[wetfart]

Dear Consumer,

We're sorry Tiberian Twilight was a horrible game. Please accept this as our apology.

Sincerely,
EA

PS: We're really not that sorry about it though.

 

[redisforever]

May be good. Will not buy. Why? Well, here are my predictions. It will not be on Steam, it will require Origin, (which I hate) AND it won't run on any computer I own.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

What I want to know Bioware is where is my Jade Empire 2?

 

[Frostbite3789]

Not the same, I already use Steawhich means $120 for a game. Steam does not do this.

I have some Australian friends who would like to have a word.

Errrr.. Steam's prices for Aussie users are in USD.... it's just that the numbers after the '$' are ones Australians are familiar with (eg, USD $89.99 for LA Noir)... which is sorta okay when the currencies are near parity in their worth but a right facefucking at other times... and even at parity it's usually no cheaper than physical retail so, except for Sales, Steam generally isn't a money saver for us.

Which was my point.

 

[Simalacrum]

You know what I'm significantly more interested in about this announcement? The game is going to be using the Frostbite 2 engine.

Destruction as a major element of strategy, maybe?

 

[Smooth Operator]

New management that knows nothing of RTS, new engine that was never made for RTS, brought in to recreate the least interesting iteration of C&C... well let's hope for the best