Black Ops II Designer Thinks Gamers "Should All Play Multiplayer"

[Knife-28]

To be fair, I can sort of see where he's coming from. This guy's worked hard on the games multiplayer, and he wants people to play the expiriance he's put together. Granted he could have worded this better, but what can you do about it.

And as for people who're whining about the kids playing the multiplayer (Which seems to be all that ends up being talked about whenever the topic of muliplayer is discussed), there's two very simple things you can do.
1. Mute anyone and everyone
2. Jump into party chat either with your mates or by yourself, then you won't hear anyone in game chat.

And I don't know about you, but I find those little kids who have a nice ol' sook over COD rediculesly funny.

 

[Xdeser2]

David Vonderhaar can shove it up his ass

Single player will ALWAYS be more important to me

 

[Bostur]

It's incredible how much out of context news can get. I think everyone should read the original interview and see if they can even find the passage quoted here. I took me quite a while.

Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.

It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.

Do you have the link to the original interview? I can't find anything that puts his "bugs the shit" comment in greater context.

http://oneofswords.com/2012/09/in-deeper-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii-multiplayer/

It's at the bottom of the page, right before the permalink.

So, you have nothing that adds the context you claim to be lacking. Fair enough.

I think the original interview adds to the context. The quote mentioned here is just a small remark completely unrelated to what the interview is about.

Sorry about missing your sarcasm, I was just trying to be helpful really.

 

[chad_quixote]

I hate MP, I simply do not have the time to get good at it - it's frustrating because there are people who spend 10 hours a day playing, and I just can't do anything.

 

[TheRealCJ]

...is there a single freaking person in the game industry with common sense!?

And before anyone says Valve, if they had common sense, TF2 would actually be a game instead of a hat sim.

Funny, I can still play TF2. Maybe you accidentally loaded up a browser to a hat website by accident?

 

[Robert0288]

Well with all due respect David Vonderhaar, go fuck yourself.

+1

Because I love the change from a high speed shooter single player experience, to one where you run around at 90 mph knifing and teabagging people.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Allow me to convey my feelings to this is significant detail:

It began as absolute screaming outrage, malformed into outrageous and sickening laughter, then devolved into incoherent crying.

WTF Activision. Are you guys hiring the EA PR department to issue comments on the industry now?

STOP PLEASE.

 

[II2]

I do. I have great fun with Battlefield and Tribes .

 

[Knife-28]

It's incredible how much out of context news can get. I think everyone should read the original interview and see if they can even find the passage quoted here. I took me quite a while.

Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.

It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.

Do you have the link to the original interview? I can't find anything that puts his "bugs the shit" comment in greater context.

http://oneofswords.com/2012/09/in-deeper-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii-multiplayer/

It's at the bottom of the page, right before the permalink.

So, you have nothing that adds the context you claim to be lacking. Fair enough.

I think the original interview adds to the context. The quote mentioned here is just a small remark completely unrelated to what the interview is about.

Sorry about missing your sarcasm, I was just trying to be helpful really.

The interview is about the multiplayer, how cool the multiplayer is, and his comment is how much it "bugs the shit out of" him that not everyone is playing multiplayer.

I think the context is in the interview, he's talking about all the cool stuff that they've added to the games multiplayer, and it 'bugs the shit' out of him that people who don't play the multiplayer won't experiance all the hard work he's put into it, which to me seems like a fair thing to say despite its heavy handed delivery.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Well with all due respect David Vonderhaar, go fuck yourself.

What he said.

Seriously Mr. Vonderhaar, you should respect that not everyone LIKES running around getting shouted at and having insults hurled at them by assholes under the influence of the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

 

[robertsmithseeker]

Yup you wonder why i don't play all that many new games, well here it is. It piss the designers off that i won't use the features that cost me extra on top of the game i just paid $60 for. What gall i have, what right as a consumer do i have to not be milked like a cow who's teats are filled with gold bullion. After all i need to help them with there six figure bonus they get paid if there game appeals to the largest slice of the audience, even if im not included and laughed at because i want a good story in my game. For shame that i don't pay for the special pass and xbox live gold just so i can play that part of the game. I would rather play Madden sarcasticball 2012 then pay them another penny after i already bought the game. And they wonder why there games get pirated. Oh i know there over priced and the design teams a bunch of wankers.

 

[Iklwa]

It's the same deal with Diablo 3 for me, as well as BF3 when it came out: sometimes I just want to play single player. Not to say I hate multiplayer; far from it. I just don't want to play multiplayer all the time. The only thing I could honestly say I hate is how MP seems to get shoehorned into every game I see these days.

 

[51gunner]

I played the crap out of World at War and Modern Warfare 2. I think I was halfway through my fourth prestige or something like that when I finally got fed up with the COD multiplayer. It's addicting, but there's too many niggling frustrations in the whole experience.

Sometimes, bullshit happens. You'll get hit from behind, or you run straight into something you ought to have known better... but it transcends my personal bullshit tolerance when it becomes a game mechanic. The unlocking guns are a petty annoyance only because you usually get something decent at lower levels, but it's frustrating as hell realizing that other players have a concrete advantage from unlocking silencers/heartbeat sensors/super perks, etc. These little advantages start adding up into big ones.

I think what finally broke it for me was eating multiple predator missiles in a row. At least in a shooter like Halo your team has to work to capitalize on an early advantage (position, weapon control, etc.). In COD it's "hurr durr instakill missile" that the other player has no recourse against.

If I want to play multiplayer anything, I play Starcraft now. That can guarantee me a level playing field every time. Your games do not, sir.

 

[chiggerwood]

I find a small measure of joy in my heart that makes me feel five pounds the lighter knowing that by my inaction I am causing irritation to this man. If it so happens that my disapproval of multiplayer pisses him off then all the better, although I can understand him disliking the fact of people hating something he put a lot of work into, but he's an adult he can live with disappointment. He wants everyone to play multiplayer and people in hell want ice water but neither wish shall be granted.

 

[carpathic]

Well with all due respect David Vonderhaar, go fuck yourself.

That.

I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY MULTIPLAYER GAMES. I just want to spend time by myself, playing a game by myself, having fun by myself, with no one else around to ruin the experience.

Simple.

I just wish companies would listne to me on this one. THere is a reason Skyrim sold so well, so people like me, can play it by myself.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Why is this a worthy story for the News Room?

Better yet, why are people actually getting upset over some guy's passing comment that essentially comes down to "I wish more people played the multiplayer I designed"?

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I am not against multiplayer in games, even shooters, but Call of Duty multiplayer just doesn't interest me at all.
The only Call of Duty multiplayer I played and enjoyed was World at War because it had a co-op campaign with arcade style scoring, which I enjoyed.
The only war shooter I play in multiplayer and actually enjoy though is Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Oh god. Why did no one censor his statement? This is going to cause all kinds of shit with that annoying little subset of people who get all pissy over this kind of stuff. God, why do people have to get so upset when a developer or industry person expresses an opinion and go into huge tirades about how wrong they are and how bad their company is? I don't even need to read the responses to start getting a headache.

 

[CpT_x_Killsteal]

Why wouldn't you want to play with the Call of Duty community? They're all such nice charmi- BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh god I couldn't finish that.

 

[EHKOS]

In the words of Jon Jafari, "Well you can't tell me what the heck to do!"