Could You Date A Transexual?

[Seydaman]

Sure, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

 

[hazabaza1]

Probably not, no.
Just seems kinda weird to me. Other people can feel free though.

 

[Epic Bear Man]

3. Really, why the f*ck would any group wish to name itself after fatty acids of all things.

I sure as hell would! As long as the fat in question are Omega-3/6/9 fatty acids. D:

 

[D Moness]

But therein lies the problem. I'm attracted to women, I must accept trans MtF as women so I should have no problem dating them. But I do and that's what has me so upset. Either way i'm screwed.

But then if there is no attraction there is no attraction.

I mean :

Could I date a guy : Yes if we are both attracted to each other.
Could I date a girl : see above
Could i date a Transexual : well you get the idea

I mean nobody is attracted to 100% of his/her preferred gender.

 

[elvor0]

Yeah, why not? I think I could on paper, obviously never had the situation presented to me, and I do often joke that I'd end up with one anyway, given most of the qualities that are in women that I fancy are generally "manly" traits. The only problem is, is I'd like to have a kid one day, and obviously it would depend on how the girl feels about having a carrier for the child.

Mind you, I think it's more likely that a trans-girl would be more feminine in personality, as if you were blokey, it seems odd that you would have the drive to want to change gender to a female.

 

[Random Fella]

No, a lot of people might answer yes to save face and seem like a good person, some may legitimately not mind or be attracted to that, but there's no way I could date a MtoF transvestite (Straight male)
Does that make me a bad person? No
Does that make me ignorant or perhaps prejudice? No
Not sure if it's possible for such a transvestite to biologically have children in their new sexual state, but I don't think so, and that's obviously one of the major factors in a serious relationship (Of course in the state of finding my partner late in the relationship to be unable to due to natural means, the story would be different, but would be different because it's something they cannot help)

 

[Darken12]

As a scientist, I just want to chip in on the absolutely disgusting amount of biological determinism on this thread and remind everyone that "this affects that" or "this has been observed" are just observations that A) are likely to be incomplete or outright wrong because of faulty methods or limited understanding on the subject, B) imply no causation or correlation, strictly speaking, as it is possible those findings do not support the conclusions derived from them, and C) even if the logic, conclusions and findings are indeed airtight, biology is not fate. Being born with this or that gene, having this or that hormone or brain structure, being this or that way has nothing to do with what you are.

You can be whatever you want to be, and people using biology to say "you can't be that" are douchebags who should stay the hell away from science because they are clearly not capable of using science's findings responsibly. Science is not a tool to oppress. Stop using science to justify bigotry, you're giving biology, genetics, endocrinology and neurology (as well as who knows how many other fields) a bad name.

 

[Epic Bear Man]

No, a lot of people might answer yes to save face and seem like a good person, some may legitimately not mind or be attracted to that, but there's no way I could date a MtoF transvestite (Straight male)
Does that make me a bad person? No
Does that make me ignorant or perhaps prejudice? No
Not sure if it's possible for such a transvestite to biologically have children in their new sexual state, but I don't think so, and that's obviously one of the major factors in a serious relationship (Of course in the state of finding my partner late in the relationship to be unable to due to natural means, the story would be different, but would be different because it's something they cannot help)

Why would you assume that because you're not attracted to them sexually that might make you bad, ignorant, or prejudice?

Sexuality is one of those things that cannot be changed (except possibly through severe trauma, or possibly through experimentation), and it's an inward thing. Acceptance of others, especially when it pertains to someone getting a job or not, is an outward thing.

I get that you're probably just clarifying, but nonetheless no one's really going to care if you like someone or something or not, and if they do, they're the prejudice one.

 

[an annoyed writer]

While I'm not contesting that gender identity received at birth would be impossible, at the moment there are just more evidence supporting the opposite hypothesis.

Speak for your own experiences, because I've found the opposite to be true. Besides, if that was the case, people like me would be in padded cells rather than receiving the current standards of treatment. That theory has been in place and building supporting evidence since at least 1995 (See: Zhou et al. (1995)), if not earlier. Now this resource is a tad bit dated, but it does go into that as well as our standards of care, if you are interested: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html Someone dropped that in one of the previous threads about the topic. It's written from the perspective of a transsexual woman, so expect some bias.

 

[The Lunatic]

A lot of them come with quite significantly baggage and underlying issues which are caused by the whole thing.


Depends how settled, I suppose.

At my age, I don't think there's anyone who would be completely transitioned and over the issues that surround it.

So, at this stage. No.


However, this isn't because they're transgender. I just don't stick my dick in crazy, regardless the type.


Which most certainly is not to say they're all crazy.

Just a fair few. And, frankly, I don't blame them.

 

[Random Fella]

No, a lot of people might answer yes to save face and seem like a good person, some may legitimately not mind or be attracted to that, but there's no way I could date a MtoF transvestite (Straight male)
Does that make me a bad person? No
Does that make me ignorant or perhaps prejudice? No
Not sure if it's possible for such a transvestite to biologically have children in their new sexual state, but I don't think so, and that's obviously one of the major factors in a serious relationship (Of course in the state of finding my partner late in the relationship to be unable to due to natural means, the story would be different, but would be different because it's something they cannot help)

Why would you assume that because you're not attracted to them sexually that might make you bad, ignorant, or prejudice?

Sexuality is one of those things that cannot be changed (except possibly through severe trauma, or possibly through experimentation), and it's an inward thing. Acceptance of others, especially when it pertains to someone getting a job or not, is an outward thing.

I get that you're probably just clarifying, but nonetheless no one's really going to care if you like someone or something or not, and if they do, they're the prejudice one.

I take from what you've said, and your post count that you're new here
You'll come to understand why, with how people act on the internet, especially on this site I find

 

[Genocidicles]

I think if a woman I already liked said they used to be a man then I wouldn't have that much of a problem with it.

I wouldn't deliberately seek them out though.

 

[m72_ar]

Date, Yes If I find them attractive (and there are some fine looking MtFs out there)

Marriage, probably no
Since there are other elements that I need in a marriage

 

[OniaPL]

While I'm not contesting that gender identity received at birth would be impossible, at the moment there are just more evidence supporting the opposite hypothesis.

Speak for your own experiences, because I've found the opposite to be true. Besides, if that was the case, people like me would be in padded cells rather than receiving the current standards of treatment. That theory has been in place and building supporting evidence since at least 1995 (See: Zhou et al. (1995)), if not earlier. Now this resource is a tad bit dated, but it does go into that as well as our standards of care, if you are interested: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html Someone dropped that in one of the previous threads about the topic. It's written from the perspective of a transsexual woman, so expect some bias.

Padded cells? It's not like I am claiming that transsexuality is some kind of illness. I don't think that transsexuality or any other form of sexuality is a choice; I'm claiming that it is not determined at birth. The socio/physiological factors are ones an individual can't really do anything about, and they seem to create the gender identity.

I fear that the article might be somewhat wasted on me though; english is not my native language and therefore I had some difficulty understanding some of the terminology.

What probably my main problem with this is that everything saying that the size of BTSc would serve as the neurobiological basis for transgenderism references this same study that was performed back in 1995 with a relatively small sample size, and another one from 2000 that was from the same group. I personally am just paranoid/doubting of the theory since it's foundation and basis largely rests on only these two studies. While it may be possible that these studies could be correct, I wouldn't say that this hypothesis has been confirmed.
While it may just be my own confirmation bias, I wouldn't agree with the claim being confirmed. What I do agree with is that it deserves more looking into, however so that the hypothesis could possibly be proven true.

 

[Substitute Troll]

I don't mean to offend transexuals, because I really don't have anything against them. If you're brave enough to accept that you were born as a different gender, then you have all the respects from me.

Dating one though? No. Flat out. The thought slightly disgusts me.

 

[Crazycat690]

Yes, sure, why not? As long as the person is attractive and interesting.

 

[chinangel]

Nope . Never . Ever . And if i date a person who i thought was born a woman to find out they weren't i'd probably go to jail for murder .

You know what , i think i'm going to ask ever girl i meet if they were born a girl. I'm scared now .

well that escalated quickly.
"Gasp, you didn't tell me you were born a certain way. Gonna have to kill you now."

Doesn't that seem like...I dunno...a bit ridiculous? Maybe somewhat psychotic? Being trans is rather a personal thing, as a tgirl myself I told my lovers before I slept with them my gender status, but I sure as hell didn't tell them when I started dating: it's not something i'd share on a first or second date. Not until i'm ready to move to the next step.

 

[chinangel]

Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual is not male.

Chromosomes, sorry.

how fortunate that one does not need a fetish to follow through.

Not really true. Pheromones make it such that you can generally tell at a base level what chromosomes someone has, and this will color their sexual attractiveness to you on a subconscious level accordingly. You may not agree with the use of the term "fetish" to describe someone who does not detect or interpret pheromones the way most people do, but it's sounds appropriate to me. Unless there are transgender surgeries that I'm not aware of that include pheromone-producing organs, it is absolutely the case that to find a transgendered person attractive for a heterosexual is an abnormality, or at least an oddity, or an unlikely occurrence.

Now, you might be able to will yourself to ignore your subconsciousness I guess, and assuming that the transgendered person is otherwise convincing in most or all other ways, you might end up subconsciously ignoring the pheromone cues anyways. But once you find out that they are in fact transgendered you'll probably find that your sex drive diminishes and that they feel more like a close friend or family member than a partner if there was anything between you before.

Oh Boy. Let me sing you the song of my people.

Well before I started my transitioning, I was being called a girl ALL the time. I loved it, and I would respond as such. I also have an identical twin brother (genetically identical just to clarify) who gets called 'her', 'miss', 'she' and so on on a regular basis. It drives him bonkers.

Now, after my hormone treatments, I look even more feminine and have a more believable girls voice, and I"ve never been outed if I did not wish to be.

So, how do you explain this away?

 

[Sleepingzombie]

Absolutely. If I Love someone, I Love someone.

 

[Epic Bear Man]

No, a lot of people might answer yes to save face and seem like a good person, some may legitimately not mind or be attracted to that, but there's no way I could date a MtoF transvestite (Straight male)
Does that make me a bad person? No
Does that make me ignorant or perhaps prejudice? No
Not sure if it's possible for such a transvestite to biologically have children in their new sexual state, but I don't think so, and that's obviously one of the major factors in a serious relationship (Of course in the state of finding my partner late in the relationship to be unable to due to natural means, the story would be different, but would be different because it's something they cannot help)

Why would you assume that because you're not attracted to them sexually that might make you bad, ignorant, or prejudice?

Sexuality is one of those things that cannot be changed (except possibly through severe trauma, or possibly through experimentation), and it's an inward thing. Acceptance of others, especially when it pertains to someone getting a job or not, is an outward thing.

I get that you're probably just clarifying, but nonetheless no one's really going to care if you like someone or something or not, and if they do, they're the prejudice one.

I take from what you've said, and your post count that you're new here
You'll come to understand why, with how people act on the internet, especially on this site I find

I am new to this site (I've been on it years ago when Apocalypse Lane was made, just I never made an account), but I've been on the internet for a while. I know people are stupid and throw accusations, but I'm just saying there's no reason for you to have to try to justify yourself on this. If someone is gonna throw accusations, they'll just nitpick your argument, they won't actually say "oh, okay, he's clarified that his position is based off of sexual attraction, not based out of bigotry".