Could You Date A Transexual?

[A Curious Fellow]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

 

[Aric Flowers]

short answer: no

long answer: heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no

 

[LittleThestral]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

 

[DeltaEdge]

No, I don't think I could. That is just my personal hang up though, as I would find it a bit to jarring to be attracted to a trans person once I knew. Not that I'd have to worry about it, since people have standards, and I am probably below those standards. I have no qualms against people simply for being trans though.

What I don't like the idea that people should have to change sex in order to act a certain way, since bodies are pretty much just shells when it comes down to it, and I see little difference in what can be accomplished by a male versus what can be accomplished by a female other than certain bodily functions (although science will someday probably enable a complete and utter perfect sex change), so when someone says they wish they were female, because they want to be more feminine or vice-versa, I don't think of them as needing to change sex, I think of it as society's strict enforcement of gender roles as keeping them from being what they are already capable of being with their birth sex.

I don't really know much about it though as I have never experienced the desire/necessity to be another gender, so for all I know, maybe people really do just desire to have their parts changed, and have no intention of acting feminine, they just feel that they should have been born with different hormones and genitals. Shows how much I know. I'll be in the Dunce corner if you need me.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

 

[ZephyriaSoul]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

 

[iblis666]

as I want kids that are genetically mine and my mates I would have to say no, but in the future if the tech got to the point that a MtoF was able to have kids I would be fine dating them

 

[Psykoma]

What actually went through my mind when I originally thought of it was the south park ski instructor "you're gonna have a bad time"

Again, sorry.

Mind still in strange places. It's been one of those days, i'm in a giddy mood.

those ski poles make me think of dildos on sticks.

 

[bananafishtoday]

I used to have multiple transexual friends but I would never engage with them in a romantic or sexual fashion - that resulted in me losing them as friends, apparently.

I am of the stern belief that you are the sex you were born as, no matter what medical practices are performed on you and no matter what you believe or think you are.

I thiiiiink there's a different reason they didn't want to be friends with you...

 

[Abomination]

I used to have multiple transexual friends but I would never engage with them in a romantic or sexual fashion - that resulted in me losing them as friends, apparently.

I am of the stern belief that you are the sex you were born as, no matter what medical practices are performed on you and no matter what you believe or think you are.

I thiiiiink there's a different reason they didn't want to be friends with you...

You missed the entire part of where I treated and called them in the manner of whatever gender they preferred to be called or treated as. Our friendship only ended when one asked me out and I declined, stating how I have no sexual attraction towards them.

If when my actions are completley in line, respect is completely given but it is my own internal thoughts (that I do not reveal without being asked directly) that cause umbridge - there is a trigger a demographic of people need to let go of. I understand their concept of gender identity but I do not subscribe to it. If they are incapable of being my friend because of THAT then it is not I who is the bigot.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

That's principally my point. A brain cannot be male or female except at the cellular level.

 

[Sion_Barzahd]

Probably wouldn't bother me if i found her attractive enough, i've had crushes of MtoF trans before. I'd be shocked when i discovered they were previously a guy (as i am usually oblivious to this)

 

[Zeren]

I could very easily. That person is who they are now, not who they used to be.

 

[ZephyriaSoul]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

That's principally my point. A brain cannot be male or female except at the cellular level.

But, it can be in thought processes. And THAT'S The point we're trying to make. Our brains are mapped differently to our bodies, our instincts and natures are mapped different to how are bodies appear.

I've lived this way my entire 17 years. Maybe if you put yourself in our shoes, you'd understand. But until then...

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

That's principally my point. A brain cannot be male or female except at the cellular level.

But, it can be in thought processes. And THAT'S The point we're trying to make. Our brains are mapped differently to our bodies, our instincts and natures are mapped different to how are bodies appear.

I've lived this way my entire 17 years. Maybe if you put yourself in our shoes, you'd understand. But until then...

I would encourage you to do further research into genetics, endocrinology, and neurology. What you're trying to say simply doesn't reflect the science of the human body.

 

[cobra_ky]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

That's principally my point. A brain cannot be male or female except at the cellular level.

But, it can be in thought processes. And THAT'S The point we're trying to make. Our brains are mapped differently to our bodies, our instincts and natures are mapped different to how are bodies appear.

I've lived this way my entire 17 years. Maybe if you put yourself in our shoes, you'd understand. But until then...

I would encourage you to do further research into genetics, endocrinology, and neurology. What you're trying to say simply doesn't reflect the science of the human body.

I did and i found <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_humans#Brain>several examples of differences in brain structure between males and females.

I also found <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender#Transsexual_people_and_science>several studies that found more neurological differences in the brains of transgendered people.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I don't think I could, even if I had wanted to before knowing what I was dealing with. Also, I think it's important to note that "transsexual" is a misnomer. Sex is coded in one's DNA and, in humans, cannot be changed, whatever superficial augmentations are added. There's no argument to be had on that point.

Gender, however, is not completely coded in one's DNA. It's all about the braaaaains. So, if you have a male brain but female bits (or vice-versa, of course), I think that can be accurately called "transsexual"-- i.e. your bits are the opposite sex of your brain.

I would like to see evidence of that ever happening. More to the point, I would like to see evidence of a brain being distinctly male or female at all when separated entirely from the rest of the body.

Have a good time with that, then. Because when separated from the body, the brain is just a useless lump of greymatter.

That's principally my point. A brain cannot be male or female except at the cellular level.

But, it can be in thought processes. And THAT'S The point we're trying to make. Our brains are mapped differently to our bodies, our instincts and natures are mapped different to how are bodies appear.

I've lived this way my entire 17 years. Maybe if you put yourself in our shoes, you'd understand. But until then...

I would encourage you to do further research into genetics, endocrinology, and neurology. What you're trying to say simply doesn't reflect the science of the human body.

I did and i found <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_humans#Brain>several examples of differences in brain structure between males and females.

I also found <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender#Transsexual_people_and_science>several studies that found more neurological differences in the brains of transgendered people.

Nothing against Wikipedia, but if you're going to quote it as a hard source, I'm allowed to not take you seriously. If I was following the rules, I would be required to not take you seriously.

 

[Raika]

as I want kids that are genetically mine and my mates I would have to say no, but in the future if the tech got to the point that a MtoF was able to have kids I would be fine dating them

If I'm not mistaken, stem cell research could actually do something along those lines if it was funded and the GOP wasn't stonewalling it. Then again, I heard this yonks ago, so part or all of it might not be true.

 

[drisky]

I would encourage you to do further research into genetics, endocrinology, and neurology. What you're trying to say simply doesn't reflect the science of the human body.

"Scientists now know that sex hormones begin to exert their influence during development of the fetus." Sex hormones effecting the brain of a fetus is a proven fact.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ

Although its link to transsexuality has not yet been proven, it's the prevailing theory based on autopsies and lack of effect based on social factors makes it seem highly likely to be an in born thing

http://danglingpossibilities.blogspot.com/2009/12/hormone-wash-in-brain.html

That's the science behind it as we know today.

I can give you more as well if you don't think its serious enough also

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I would encourage you to do further research into genetics, endocrinology, and neurology. What you're trying to say simply doesn't reflect the science of the human body.

"Scientists now know that sex hormones begin to exert their influence during development of the fetus." Sex hormones effecting the brain of a fetus is a proven fact.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ

Although its link to transsexuality has not yet been proven, it's the prevailing theory based on autopsies and lack of effect based on social factors makes it seem highly likely to be an in born thing

http://danglingpossibilities.blogspot.com/2009/12/hormone-wash-in-brain.html

That's the science behind it as we know today.

I can give you more as well if you don't think its serious enough also

These are fascinating reads, but with exceptions made for the initial paragraphs, they say little I wasn't already exposed to. Also, if you don't mind me being a stickler about it, I don't see how this contradicts me or makes transsexuality more legitimate. In the first article, the changes to the brains' structure is still being recognized as an effect of the sex of the rest of the body via differences in hormone levels. The second link you provided makes mention of the point at which fetal testosterone levels reach their peak in male utero development. Does that point not overlap with the point at which male development first asserts itself? I'm sure that you're aware that all humans are female during the first period of life before the Y chromosome activates the changes that create males, I'm just not certain if those two periods are one and the same. I'm also still unsure how this proves transsexuality to be anything other than psychological in its pathology.