Does New Korean Game Rip Off Team Fortress 2?

Nazrel

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Honestly it doesn't look like a rip off,at least not anymore than every other FPS is a rip off of every other FPS that ever existed.

Oh, they're both cartoonly looking!
Oh, they both have Gatling guns, and the Gatling guns look like Gatling guns!

I've seen that seen the Gatling gun girl scene in a dozen different animes.

Oh, but they have some similarities to the TF2 characters!

TF2 characters were not innovative or new;
they were personifications of Cliches!
God forbid something to have a passing similarity to a cliche!
 

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rawlsku said:
Having blind men touch elephants?

They're more perverted than I thought.
Touch my elephant.

Wow, I could have come up with an idea for their game, and it would have been original, so the difference between me and the SK iMedia is that I'm original and they can program the same game but make it look different.
 

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Similar yes, but as has been said above, hardly to the point where anyone can think of pressing charges. And IMO the premise of toys fighting eachother is pretty cool. I'm still not going to play it, but it's a neat idea.
 

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Why would you NOT want to copy TF2. TF2 is brilliant and it does so many things right it would be criminal to not allow other games to do the same things correct.

That's gameplay-wise. Graphics wise this game needs to get some new weapon designs to avoid being sued. Artistic style is something than can be copied if done well. TF2 shouldn't be the only online shooter allowed to get away with having colours other than brown (OH SNAP!).
 

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DJPirtu said:
You do realize that people have been rocket jumping in FPSes since Quake came out in 1996, right? Maybe even in the Doom era, I'm not exactly sure.
Doom didn't even have jumping, let alone rocket jumping. Just sayin'.

Indigo_Dingo said:
Oh yes, because Valve totally invented the concept of combattants in multiplayer using weapons like a sniper rifle, bazooka, machine gun, shotgun, minigun, or grenade launcher. Its not like we'd seen all that before in 2001. Nope, before that, all online multiplayer had was sticks and rocks.
What game was released in 2001 with all that? The original Team Fortress was 1996. Then the guys got hired and they released Team Fortress Classic in 1999.
 

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that actually looks pretty fun, and a nice reinvention... although when I saw the demoman and his grenade, and the only difference being the electrical shock instead of bloody carnage, I raised an eyebrow. It looks exactly like a stick figure replica of a black Scottish cyclops, even has a fucking eye patch!
 

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messy said:
OT; one part of this was TRIFORCE productions, can these guys come up with anything themselves. Although I don't think valve have to start worrying just yet, unless that quarter-life (sounds like an American arcade simulator) gets made
Quarter-Life? seriously, a game called quarter-life?

well, I wouldn't worry until Quarter-Life: Chapter 2 gets delayed for 6 months
as in CHAPTER 2: THEY REVOCER TEH ISOTROP BUT THEY DONT
 

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At first I thought it was disturbingly similar but not quite a ripoff, but the ubered anime figurine with a mini-gun clinched it for me. Still interesting, though.
 

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1) Level design looks derivative:

From looking at a screenshot of the game (I don't remember the URL--finding content on a search engine is pretty difficult), it looked almost just like TF2. Lots of solid colors, industrial arenas, team-based territorial colors, very sparse arenas. Now, that's not enough to make me scream "RIP-OFF," but it made me wonder for a second if I was looking at H.A.V.E. or TF2's Granary level.

Oh, and soupy gibs. All you need are the bits of limbs, and you have TF2's gibs.

2) Music style is VERY similar:

Bold, brassy, like an old spy action movie theme. Compare to the TF2 theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7laxF8se_so. Similar music style, except HAVE's is way, way more like a hyperactive thirteen-year old girl that can't sit still.

3) Character design:

Honestly. The characters they were showing in the trailer looked very similar to the TF2 classes, except... well, less goofy and likable. One-eyed black Demoman; helmeted, rocket-wielding Soldier, speedy Scout. No, that's not enough to make me scream "TF2 RIP-OFF", and they're fairly generic character types, but it makes me raise an eyebrow and think that they're trying to attempt what Valve accomplished... but failing miserably.

Because, I think we can all agree, sometimes you can't help but laugh at what's happening in TF2 when things get exciting: people are screaming exaggeratedly in pain, calling each other names that would make a preacher pale in horror (Five words: "Ya great lactating wet-nurse!", Engineers holding a hoe-down as their turrets mow down people that inched out just a bit too far... and then you have some idiot W+M1 Pyro running into the fray, shouting "HUDDA HUDDA HUH!"


But, adding that all together, either they're attempting to design a game that is highly derivative of TF2, or... they picked the worst possible way to promote their new game.

On that note, it's been quite a while since I've played TF2. I think I know what I'm doing when I get home.
 

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I'm assuming this is the birthchild of some Korean guy watching a few clips of Toyfort, and then being told to "do that kind of stuff".
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Ooo, they both have snipers - clearly it's a ripoff!

My personal jury is out until I see something more than just a tiny trailer, but all I see are two cartoony, class-based shooters, that's about it. I suppose it's inevitable that anything cartoony will be compared to TF2, but I don't really see this as a straight-up ripoff -- unless you consider any game with a cover system is a Gears ripoff.

A baseball bat is hardly a unique weapon. Same is true for a Gatling gun, flamethrower, etc.
Agreed.

At this point all we can do is look at the trailer, compare the similarities, form our own opinions, and keep them to ourselves.

Malygris said:
and there's no denying that SK iMedia was, at the very least, powerfully inspired by Valve [http://www.valvesoftware.com].
This.
 

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I want to be that sniper, she looked as if she owned a lot of peeps.

Sure, it looks pretty ripped-off, but who wouldn't want to be a anime girl shooting toys in the face?
 

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I think it looks pretty fun. Plus, unlike most, I am willing to give it a chance before going 'OMG TF2 RIPOFFZ' I saw about a second of gameplay there and that's not enough to tell me it's an utter rip of TF2.
Everyone chill...
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Oh yes, because Valve totally invented the concept of combattants in multiplayer using weapons like a sniper rifle, bazooka, machine gun, shotgun, minigun, or grenade launcher. Its not like we'd seen all that before in 2001. Nope, before that, all online multiplayer had was sticks and rocks.

Honestly, get over them. The similarity is that there is a lot of action and the characters use weapons? What the hell is wrong with all of you?
Indeed. So it looks similar to TF2. Whoop-de-fuckin-do. The same could be said about Gears of War and Kill Switch. Marathon and Doom. Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo.

All of them were great games, and loved by fans. And I didn't see any lynch mobs threatening to burn down the HQ of the studios that made those games. Get over yourselves. It's not like they ripped the assets right from the game [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/84651].
 

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ZeroMachine said:
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

You are kidding me, right? Right? Please, tell me you're kidding me!

Did you even watch that video? It's not about the gameplay, it's about the look and feel of things!
I was thinking this Zero =/
 

Lukeydoodly

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Using ideas from games is OK. Copying it however isn't, I mean they copied the Demoman right down to the grenades!
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
Well by the looks of it it seems to be TF2 but more insane. And I like the sound of that.
And who wouldn't buy that? Let's give it the benefit of the doubt! Sure it looks the same, but hectic or what?!
 

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Oh wow. How can they not say that they copied Valve in the least? The sniper's scope is EXACTLY the same in both games!

The Scouts both wield silver aluminum bats! The demomen's grenades are identical!

Yes, Valve didn't invent the online FPS, but, SK iMedia clearly took multiple ideas from Valve and is incorporating them into their game.
 

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Flionk said:
All things considered, yeah, this trailer probably is just a homage to TF2, and gameplay will probably be different enough that it won't be considered a rip-off. But either way, it's also a complete marketing FUBAR. If the trailer had been mostly original stuff, with just a few references to TF2 littered in there, it would have been just fine - people would think that they're similar, which is probably what they want us to think, but different enough to give it a second look. Instead this trailer, which is the first exposure most people will be getting to this game, is incredibly similar to the various TF2 promotional videos. The average person won't look any farther than that - they'll see an identical promo video and assume that they're identical games. Even if/when later gameplay videos come out and prove that the game is very different from TF2, the negative connotation of 'rip-off' has already been set firmly in many of their potential customer's minds. Also, "It's not actually a rip-off" won't get as much press coverage.

So in short, if it is a rip-off, it was probably doomed from the start, but if it isn't a rip-off then I'd wager good money that this poor advertising move just killed it.
QFT!

Simply bad marketing by the developers/publishers.