Escape to the Movies: Scre4m

[ironlordthemad]

Wait, look at the face of the fat cop at 5.22, haven't we seen him before... yeah in... wait a minute... THIS IS A "MOVIE" MOVIE!

EVERYONE HIT THE DECK!

 

[theApoc]

Dear Nerd Who Got Beat Up a lot,

I have no doubt this movie sucks, but seriously, give the whole "nerds are more sophisticated than popular kids" thing a rest. Not everything that is fanboy wet dream material is cool, no matter how much you want it to be and not every stereotypical Hollywood money maker sucks. You often do a pretty good job of reviewing movies, it is only when you feel the twinge of an adolescent wedgie up your crack that you let your reviews fall flat.

Stick to the material, the directors and writers of this age have plenty of failings, your teenage angst and awkwardness need not be combined with their failings.

Sincerely,

Bigger Nerd Who was still cool enough to not get beat up

 

[dalek sec]

I kinda had a feeling this was going to suck badly, I never did like any of these types of movies and yes I've given them a chance in the past. Well atleast I know to save my money for something else.

I still think the 90's were a pretty good time filled with fun tv shows, movies and games but that's just me and my two dinky cents for the jar.

 

[Optimystic]

Now obviously not to the level of Drew Barrymore granted but c'mon she's Monica from Freinds.

Thing is, Friends is what made her famous, not Scream. Scream was a footnote in her career, not a launchpad nor even a highlight.

 

[Jenx]

Nice explanation of "Deconstruction" there Bob. I'd love to see what your definition for Movie is "Bunch of flashing pictures that sort of tell a story sometimes."?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

where does all the hate for the 90s come from?
is it because people who were born in the early 80s just went through puberty in the 90s and that universally sucks or something?

Nope, it's mainly because the 90's was the beginning of the talentless presenters era, and those who were famous just for becoming famous. (Early 70s child here)

It was the decade of the re-birth. Bringing things back that sucked at the time and actually making them suck harder; killing off things that actually worked and generally cloning shows at an obscene amount so that the 00's could only succeed by shattering budgets one way or the other.

We brought in a load of rules dictating what could fit and what couldn't fit and people were assigned STRICTLY to Establishment or Anti-Establishment so much that there was no way to differentiate them.

The 40's had the world in turmoil, the 50's saw the "birth" of the teenagers, the 60's brought teenage rebellion, while the 70's suffered the depression when they realised they couldn't change the world, the 80's embraced commercialism as the sugar coated placebo they needed to grow up and then the 90's brought "GREED IS GOOD" ('87 actually, but it was the turning point for the YUPPY) and the drive to make everything "standard".

The 00's limped away trying to bring back 70s/80s culture, while destroying the last remnants of fun (MTV...Cartoon Network), and the 10's revolved around being "popular" or being a "hater".

One of the few things that the 90s did that was far better than the other decades was the rise of black humour - and also Black humour - but that was born out of the crushing monotony of losing so many great things.

Boy bands (born in the 60s), Shell suits, The Macarena, The Spice Girls (GIRL POWER...oh wait, you're still wearing stripper costumes). River Phoenix, Kurt Cobain, Brandon Lee all lost.

Sure, there were some good things - but compared to the decades before (even the 70's which were bloody hard) there was little to do except laugh ironically and power ballad.

Oh yeah. Barney.

 

[daxterx2005]

I happen to like the scream franchise.
Looks like me and Bob can't share ALL the same opinions.
Oh well

 

[Lucifron]

...and the 10's revolved around being "popular" or being a "hater".

To be fair, we're only in the second year of this decade.

Not that I'm seeing anything which might reverse the trend, but some optimism won't kill us.

*breaks down sobbing*

 

[2xDouble]

Here ya go Bob. It's as if they sensed your disappointment and put this out just for you... Hope it helps you feel better:

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

...and the 10's revolved around being "popular" or being a "hater".

To be fair, we're only in the second year of this decade.

Not that I'm seeing anything which might reverse the trend, but some optimism won't kill us.

*breaks down sobbing*

What does the 10s have to offer us in these 2 years? The iPad.

That's it. A tablet-phone that doesn't work as a phone well.

Oh, and a bazillion sequels.

But, I've had a long day at work, so I just may be being a little negative.

 

[teebeeohh]

where does all the hate for the 90s come from?
is it because people who were born in the early 80s just went through puberty in the 90s and that universally sucks or something?

Nope, it's mainly because the 90's was the beginning of the talentless presenters era, and those who were famous just for becoming famous. (Early 70s child here)

It was the decade of the re-birth. Bringing things back that sucked at the time and actually making them suck harder; killing off things that actually worked and generally cloning shows at an obscene amount so that the 00's could only succeed by shattering budgets one way or the other.

We brought in a load of rules dictating what could fit and what couldn't fit and people were assigned STRICTLY to Establishment or Anti-Establishment so much that there was no way to differentiate them.

The 40's had the world in turmoil, the 50's saw the "birth" of the teenagers, the 60's brought teenage rebellion, while the 70's suffered the depression when they realised they couldn't change the world, the 80's embraced commercialism as the sugar coated placebo they needed to grow up and then the 90's brought "GREED IS GOOD" ('87 actually, but it was the turning point for the YUPPY) and the drive to make everything "standard".

The 00's limped away trying to bring back 70s/80s culture, while destroying the last remnants of fun (MTV...Cartoon Network), and the 10's revolved around being "popular" or being a "hater".

One of the few things that the 90s did that was far better than the other decades was the rise of black humour - and also Black humour - but that was born out of the crushing monotony of losing so many great things.

Boy bands (born in the 60s), Shell suits, The Macarena, The Spice Girls (GIRL POWER...oh wait, you're still wearing stripper costumes). River Phoenix, Kurt Cobain, Brandon Lee all lost.

Sure, there were some good things - but compared to the decades before (even the 70's which were bloody hard) there was little to do except laugh ironically and power ballad.

Oh yeah. Barney.

so you are telling me i was born in the year that brought us "GREED IS GOOD"? man that sucks.
i probably have fond memories of the 90s because a) i was a kid for most of the decade and b) i grew up in Berlin where the 90s pretty much were brave new world-i don't care about rules funland

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You know, it just occurred to me that Scream would be so much better if the characters, since they are so genre savy, actually subverted the usual horror/slasher movie tropes, by beating the shit out of ghostface when he shows up.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

i probably have fond memories of the 90s because a) i was a kid for most of the decade and b) i grew up in Berlin where the 90s pretty much were brave new world-i don't care about rules funland

Yeah, tbf, most of your first decade will be pretty good because for half of it you'll only be worrying about where your next meal is coming from and whether you can have another bowl of cereal before the cartoons come on.

Although, now we have "correct" cartoons and "healthy" cereal. Grief...

 

[Inglip]

The entire nineties didn't suck just because you had to grow up Bob.

 

[TheEggplant]

You know, it just occurred to me that Scream would be so much better if the characters, since they are so genre savy, actually subverted the usual horror/slasher movie tropes, by beating the shit out of ghostface when he shows up.

They do. They just don't win. The knife always gets them in the end.

 

[FullMetalZ]

While I disagree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

And I don't think you can dump the death of the "horror" genre on Scream. Did you not see One Missed Call? Christ, now that was terrible.

 

[MarsProbe]

this makes me want to watch shaun of hte dead..

It was on the tv a few days ago, just a day or so after Hot Fuzz. I managed to catch both of them .

Anyway, I never really got why they wanted to do another Scream movie. I thought the whole "teen slasher" genre or whatever it was called had had its day. I guess someone must have thought that a new generation of teens wanted to see a new generation of dumb on screen kids get hacked up by someone in a supposedly scary mask. Who else would this film be aimed at anyway? I can't imagine anyone who watched the first three Scream movies would still be interested in this.

Edit: Oh, and the 90's were good. I liked the 90's.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You know, it just occurred to me that Scream would be so much better if the characters, since they are so genre savy, actually subverted the usual horror/slasher movie tropes, by beating the shit out of ghostface when he shows up.

They do. They just don't win. The knife always gets them in the end.

Not that I've ever seen, all they ever seem to do is run around screaming like idiots, or cowering in a corner somewhere.

 

[wildcard9]

First off, I'd like to say I'm glad you've made your biases apparent, Bob. Bias also includes preference, and it's clear to us that you prefer the 80's to the 90's. While I am aware of the reasons why you don't like the 90's (the "Dark Age" of comics", Scream, boy bands, etc.), there were some undeniably good parts and I'd even like to argue as a child of the 90's that they were better than the previous decade. Hey, we actually had a stable economy under Bubba Clinton and an incredibly entertaining, yet thankfully entirely superfluous scandal.

I'd like to list a few of my favorites: Batman was actually pretty good (The Animated Series, The Long Haloween, Year One, the actually decent two Burton Films) despite the incredibly bad (Azrael, Shumaker). Mario and Zelda successfully went to 3d and while Sega failed, thankfully it finally died and ended the utter incompetence. Directors such as Spielberg, Scorsese, and Terentino had their best films made during this decade (Saving Private Ryan, Good fellas, Pulp Fiction to name my personal favorites). The genius that was Half-Life was released and brought about quite possibly the best PC developer and game distributor today, Valve. While some series weren't released stateside 'till the 00's under Adult Swim, the seeds of great, sophisticated anime with decent dubs were planted (Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Evangellion) and flourished into the golden age of anime distribution during the mid 00's.

Bob, you may argue that the 90's sucked, but even you have to admit these events were awesome. [/gush over]

 

[Mr.Pandah]

Yeah, I think I'm done listening to ya.

Agreed. Just another typical Moviebob experience. The whole first portion made me want to slam my head into my desk too. So sick of hearing about this sob story of how everyone sucks because they don't appreciate your "talents". Review the movie, and leave that other stuff out of it. It's not entertaining, and it really kills the rest of the review. It brings EVERYTHING down with it.