For those been in a few fights or martial artists-
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Bruce Lee hadn't trained in Muay ThaiWicky_42 said:Jeet Kun Do says "swift sidekick to knee as he steps towards you"
Side of foot + your full body weight focussed onto his knee taking his full body weight = no more walking
use the above but use your "shin" as opposed to the side of your foot. That way if the kick is checked you dont break part of your foot
I agree; getting someone on the ground when they've got that much mass isn't incredibly easy (unless, like some people, they put all their weight into their attacks). Do you use real-life quicktime events? Jokes.PxDn Ninja said:
And yeah, his style is important. Somebody trained in Krav Maga will react in a different fashion than somebody trained in Jujutsu.
Hit his knee with your shin?! Geez, without conditioning you're not going to enjoy that much, plus you have to be that much closer. Against a windmiller you're probably not going to have to worry about kicks being checked or any such complications. The whole point of it is to catch them off guard anyway.the_maestro_sartori said:Bruce Lee hadn't trained in Muay ThaiWicky_42 said:Jeet Kun Do says "swift sidekick to knee as he steps towards you"
Side of foot + your full body weight focussed onto his knee taking his full body weight = no more walking
use the above but use your "shin" as opposed to the side of your foot. That way if the kick is checked you dont break part of your foot
But yeah, Muay Thai kicks ass - if you're trained in it
You want to go for things that cripple their momentum. Punching them in the throat, stomach or getting wrist control and moving circles around them does it fairly easily enough. If you're on the floor and they've got mount, keep your arms together and either do wide shuffles (use your legs to the highest leverage you can) to wriggle free, or drag your foot over their back for an easy gogoplata.BlakBladz said:
I swear, the gogoplata is the fucking ace up your sleeve if you can do it right.
I haven't been "trained" in any martial art (because I don't think one summer of Taekwondo when I was 12 counts), but I have been in several fights; more than most people that I know. In my experience, you rarely step back and consider technique if you're mad enough to fight someone. And if someone else is mad enough to fight you in the manner you described ("helicopter fighter"... I like it!), then they definitely aren't either.
As a general rule, I tend to want to get lower than my opponent. Someone flailing around at you with big arcing punches or a table leg is more than likely continuously moving in your direction, and since we don't often walk while swinging things with all of our strength, your opponent will likely be off-balance. It's a simple matter, then, to get below one of these "rage swings" and take your opponent down. Again, if you're mad enough to fight, you're not gonna be thinking about the best or coolest-looking way to do this, but get to the legs and you'll find a way. From the ground, the angry "helicopter" has no room to swing and can't do anything but writhe around (assuming you think to jump on them or land a nasty kick while they're down). Sometimes this is all it takes to end a fight, as after realizing that their anger isn't going to win the fight, they'll back off and talk about whatever caused the tussle.
Again, I'm not trained at all. This is just from personal experience, so take with a grain of salt.
As a general rule, I tend to want to get lower than my opponent. Someone flailing around at you with big arcing punches or a table leg is more than likely continuously moving in your direction, and since we don't often walk while swinging things with all of our strength, your opponent will likely be off-balance. It's a simple matter, then, to get below one of these "rage swings" and take your opponent down. Again, if you're mad enough to fight, you're not gonna be thinking about the best or coolest-looking way to do this, but get to the legs and you'll find a way. From the ground, the angry "helicopter" has no room to swing and can't do anything but writhe around (assuming you think to jump on them or land a nasty kick while they're down). Sometimes this is all it takes to end a fight, as after realizing that their anger isn't going to win the fight, they'll back off and talk about whatever caused the tussle.
Again, I'm not trained at all. This is just from personal experience, so take with a grain of salt.
I don't know, I'd try and take out their legs and get them to the ground. I'm assuming this isn't a mugging or a fight where I'm in fear for my life. Either way when they're on the ground, any available balls will be kicked. I will then contact authorities.
I'd get some distance between us, so I have as many options available as possible. Then, most likely, I'll disregard all options and just jump straight into the air and punch him with the momentum I gain from that.
Heres a golden rule I learned from brawling: Never hit a gut in the face a second time. The pain from both attacks with cause him to go numb.
Tried and tested. Aim for the solar plexis whenever possible. It has more chances of flooring a guy than hitting his knees.
If someone initiats a fight by pissing you off behind you back, turn around, take a big step back, and trhough all your weight into your main fist and hit him square in the stomach. Then, dance man. Flow like the water.
And then kick him in the nuts. It's just so effective. If he IS a berserker, well, run. By this point he can't say you lost the fight. When in doubt, proclaim yourself the winner.
Tried and tested. Aim for the solar plexis whenever possible. It has more chances of flooring a guy than hitting his knees.
If someone initiats a fight by pissing you off behind you back, turn around, take a big step back, and trhough all your weight into your main fist and hit him square in the stomach. Then, dance man. Flow like the water.
And then kick him in the nuts. It's just so effective. If he IS a berserker, well, run. By this point he can't say you lost the fight. When in doubt, proclaim yourself the winner.
get them to charge at you, since they are angry and all (they would probably do this themself) move out of the way at the last seccod and "direct" there punch downwards (you dont really need to touch there are just well aim it to put there arm down and it should work), if done rightly they should fall over giving a good enougth opening (without most supprises) to escape or destroy.
Or duck (hands and knees) at the last seccond (ok sounds cheep) you have to time this presicelly so he doesnt get a chance to react, and if he does grab the back (near the middle) of his legs and stand up quickly (i mean very quickly, not the best of positions to be hanging around in for to long).
(i forget the names of the ones above, so thats just a brief description)
Or more simply just throw them somewhat.
Or duck (hands and knees) at the last seccond (ok sounds cheep) you have to time this presicelly so he doesnt get a chance to react, and if he does grab the back (near the middle) of his legs and stand up quickly (i mean very quickly, not the best of positions to be hanging around in for to long).
(i forget the names of the ones above, so thats just a brief description)
Or more simply just throw them somewhat.
In my experience (which is fairly minimal, as I do my best to avoid fights), responding in kind usually works. If someone pulls a weapon, they have just given you license to do whatever the hell you like to them. As soon as an aggressive or belligerent person reaches for their pocket, either run or clock 'em with whatever punch suits you. If they're unarmed but still attacking you, just try to hit them with as much as you can before they do the same to you. Four years of karate training have taught me one thing: Long, complicated techniques and forms count for very little in a proper fight. Strength, balance, hand speed, and good peripheral vision will do a lot more for your survival. With all that said, martial arts does give you a good knowledge of weak spots on the body, and how to hit them. It does also help with all the things I mentioned above.BlakBladz said:
In short: Just hit them hard, hit them fast, and try not to get hurt too badly in the process. And for the love of all that's good and holy, keep it simple.
Mind you, I'd still consider the ability to run very fast when needed the most important self-defense skill of all. Sometimes you just can't win, and group fights just aren't a good idea. A group of knife-wielding drunk fellas will get even the best martial artists, because they can drag you down and kick you to death.
I've got quite a lot of experience in dealing with violent crackheads. Just let them come at you. If you've really studied martial arts for 4 years, dodging, blocking and evading hits should be easy. The blindly smashing berserkers don't often have much in the way of tactics.
