Games that defeated you.

[Gunner 51]

wasn't easy at all for me

combat was a crap shoot, occasionally i could defeat all the undead soldiers and make it to the end but the boss always beat me because by that point i had pretty much run out of health potions and only had an inch of health left at all, not only that but i kept stumbling into places i shouldn't have, a graveyard full of unkillable skeletons, a pathway that seemed like an alternite way to the end but just revealed a crowd of zombies that bullrushed me, an unassuming tunnel that ended in a giant armored knight who killed me within seconds of discovering him.

i played through the level over and over, dying incredibly cheap deaths from enemies off screen that i didn't even see chucking bombs, and from the stupid fact that my shield didn't block for shit. some of my best tries were when the AI glitched and did something it wasn't supposed to, like fall off of high places or charge at me alone while their companions stay behind blissfully unaware of my presence, it's a sad thing when a game is only playable when it's broken

and lastly, i could overlook all of this if the story had made me the slightest bit interested, if it had actually caught my attention, but no, i didn't understand what was going on and with the world so bleak and uninviting i didn't care what happened to anyone in it, least of all the character i was playing as

you like the game, fine, but don't pretend that just because it gets much worse that undead burg isn't fucking hard, the whole game is fucking hard, i may be getting too worked up about it but Dark Souls is a game that flatout pisses me off, especially when i hear people praise it

Yeah, I remember my first time playing through, I rushed through that area because it was essentially one giant clusterfuck (haha, get it? because there's bone giants everywhere). Add on the lack of visibility and it's ridiculous.

I never really understand the hate about Dark Souls some people have. In my opinion, it's a true masterpiece. It's not even (that) difficult. If you know how to play, switch up your playstyle, then it's just fun.

Ornstein and Smough as a melee character on the other hand...

You forgot to mention Blighttown. Arguably harder than Tomb of the Giants.

@I Max95: I can understand what you mean - Dark Souls is a very tough game. It's just not a game that allows a player to go balls out with aggression. I haven't completed it myself either. I'd come close by my X-box decided to eat my savegame when I had a powercut while I was playing (shitting myself) in The Tomb Of Giants. But I also see what you mean about the storyline - it's so subtle and the world itself so dark - it does turn into what TV Tropes would describe as darkness induced apathy. (Which is also why the hollows are mindless zombies.)

But allow me to dispense some tips that will make mook killing easy peasy.

Spears + Heater Shields = Winning.
You can get them both from the merchant in the Undead Burg who is located near the bonfire. Just look for the tower with the two spear wielding hollow warriors, go down the stairs and Bob's your uncle.

Spears are the only weapon that allow you to attack and keep your shields up at once. Plus the Heater Shield is a pretty decent shield - blocks 100& of physical damage taken and even boasts good protection against fire damage.

Level Up in Endurance.
This means you have more stamina and means you can block more. As you may know, blocking hits with a shield takes off stamina, so it helps to have loads of stamina. You can level up your strength and dexterity later.

Know Your Enemy.
They all have their little mannerisms and noises which dictate what kind of attack they use. Winding arms back is a good indicator of when they're about to attack. If possible use their attacks to buy you time to circle strafe around them and give 'em a good poke in the rear with your spear. Especially armoured opponents. (Giggity!)

Dark Souls is cheap, it's bloody difficult - but should you stick with it, you get an RPG with fluid controls and you will feel like a complete badass for killing everything in your path.

@auron200004: I defeated Ornstein and Smough as a melee character. Though in all fairness my Lightning Spear + Shield combo paid off in the end. (In between bouts of running around trying to buy time to take a swig of my flask.)

@Uikri: Blighttown isn't too bad if you know where the bonfire is. Especially if you picked up the Rusted Iron ring, a Spider Shield and the Healer's outfit. Though Quelaag is a challenge if you face her hollow.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

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[Exocet]

There aren't a lot of games that beat me.

But I consider CoD: World at War to have been my greatest defeat. As previously mentioned, grenades.
Now, in normal difficulty, in most missions, it's not bad.

Then comes the last mission, in hard.
Holy shit. For every step you take on the stairs to the Reichstag, 5 grenades fall at your side.
In hard, if you see the grenade indicator, it pretty much means if it explodes, you die.

So when you see 5 grenade indicators at different corners of your screen, all you can do is pick which is going to kill you.
If you run back, you'll have to dodge more grenades regaining the ground you lost. If you run up, gun fire kills you instantly, because enemies have x-ray vision, and can see you moving through wooden panels. If you run to the side, you can't, because there's shit in the way and you die.


I'll also mention EVE online, but that's only a semi defeat. I just didn't have the patience to wait another year before being competitive enough to even PvP, without being a cock-munching pirate preying on foolish newbies trying to take a shortcut through 0.4 space.

 

[Denamic]

Megaman 10.
I like Megaman, but I've always fucking hated the trial and error stag select screen.
That is fucking retarded.

 

[redrefugee]

Zeturn to Zork. I spent ages on that game. I even used to have a notepad beside the computer which I used to record notes on everything. But I got nowhere. F*ck the rodent powered speedboat and the stupid diseased mice I thought powered it

 

[Cranky]

Every RTS game ever. What is micro and how do I shot itz?

 

[Cobalt Lion]

Not so much on difficulty or anything, but Amnesia: The Dark Decent is getting pretty close to defeating me.

 

[paislyabmj]

By mainlining various rocky tracks and shouting a lot I reached mike Tyson in I wanna be the guy.THAT FUCKING INTRO CINEMATIC FUCK YOU I AM NOT WAITING 3 HOURS EVERY TIME I DIE TO RETRY THE BOSS.

 

[Uikri]

wasn't easy at all for me

combat was a crap shoot, occasionally i could defeat all the undead soldiers and make it to the end but the boss always beat me because by that point i had pretty much run out of health potions and only had an inch of health left at all, not only that but i kept stumbling into places i shouldn't have, a graveyard full of unkillable skeletons, a pathway that seemed like an alternite way to the end but just revealed a crowd of zombies that bullrushed me, an unassuming tunnel that ended in a giant armored knight who killed me within seconds of discovering him.

i played through the level over and over, dying incredibly cheap deaths from enemies off screen that i didn't even see chucking bombs, and from the stupid fact that my shield didn't block for shit. some of my best tries were when the AI glitched and did something it wasn't supposed to, like fall off of high places or charge at me alone while their companions stay behind blissfully unaware of my presence, it's a sad thing when a game is only playable when it's broken

and lastly, i could overlook all of this if the story had made me the slightest bit interested, if it had actually caught my attention, but no, i didn't understand what was going on and with the world so bleak and uninviting i didn't care what happened to anyone in it, least of all the character i was playing as

you like the game, fine, but don't pretend that just because it gets much worse that undead burg isn't fucking hard, the whole game is fucking hard, i may be getting too worked up about it but Dark Souls is a game that flatout pisses me off, especially when i hear people praise it

Dark Souls is not there to make you happy. It is there to beat the shit out of you over and over again. The boss actually has a really easy strategy. You'll have a hard time blocking anything with a cracked round shield. If your shield sucks and you can't get a better one, dodge.

Cheap deaths are a given in Dark Souls, but they almost never happen unless the player is acting recklessly. It's a sad thing when people can only play a game when it holds their hand or makes things easy on them.

You sound like you played for all of about an hour, maybe two, and then decided to ragequit. You also sound like you tried to rush through every single time, and like you didn't even bother to explore for better gear. To succeed at Dark Souls, you need to be patient, observe your surroundings, be careful even when you don't think you need to, and it helps to not walk into the area where the firebomb throwing guys can hit you. If you played the unpatched version, God help you, as those bastards are going to jump down every single time you get to that little room filled with bad guys. Undead Burg isn't fucking hard if you take your time, and get better gear. You can get a full wooden shield for free through the door in the area where the archer is shooting at you and you have three undead warriors on you. You can buy a Heater Shield from the merchant. You want to talk about hard? You go ahead and fight the Four Kings alone on NG+ or higher with the completely wrong build, and tell me that doesn't piss you off more than Undead Burg. I can practically guarantee that it will.

 

[Cedric Rolle III]

I consider myself a completionist and like to squeeze every drop of value out of my games, so i tend to play on the hardest difficulty after a normal or hard (if I'm feeling masochistic) play through of any given game to enjoy a challenge and say ii finished it. There are however some exceptions... Some soul crushing control breaking exceptions...

For me its always been the God of War series on the highest difficulty. I always think its a good idea, but then i hit a wall that i keep bashing my head against until i relent and admit defeat.

In GoW 1 it was the Ares fight (so...close...)
In GoW 2 fucking Thesseus (I only stopped because my controller broke under mysterious circumstances...)
In GoW 3 the Cereberus Breeder and those Satyrs near the end (seriously just NO)

So have any of you ever come across a game that just utterly defeated you?

mortal kombat vs dc universe on "very easy" in arcade mode "Dark Khan" is too hard!!!

 

[OldDirtyCrusty]

Demon`s Souls, i suck and i could never really get into it and
everytime i try to revive my fond Street Fighter2 memories with SF4 i get reminded of the screaming at the screen and i have to hold back because the pads aren`t as cheap as they used to be.

 

[auron200004]

big snip

Yeah, I didn't really have a good build for O&S, though. I had a lightning battleaxe and light armor (I think it was just the gold armor that started with an X, or maybe I had basic pyromancer's robes, I don't remember). It's my favorite PvE build. Especially once you get the ring that lets you flip that you get from the rogue Forest Guardian. Four Kings on both regular and NG+ are chumps with that build, oddly enough.

Essentially, with that build, and some parrying practice, I beat every boss in the game with no difficulties, save for O&S. And since I'm a trophy whore (I play PS3 primarily), I had to play through again, killing Smough first so I could get Ornstein's gear. That was even worse, being NG+.

Quelaag had me really intimidated, but I beat her my first try (granted, it was an incredibly stressful and nearly failing first try). Nito wasn't too bad, so long as I timed my dodges well. The problem with him was the distance between him and the bonfire.

To be honest, the boss fight that gave me the most shear mind-numbing hate towards it was Bed of Chaos. Because it had nothing to do with your damage abilities. Even with my dodging skills coupled with the ring, I was forced to just bum rush to take out both weakpoints, die, then bum rush to take out his final weakpoint, dying multiple times trying to time the jump across the pit correctly.

But, yeah, the people who dislike the game are not playing it correctly (not trying to sound like an ass, but if the shoe fits...), it's not their cup of tea, or they chose a horrendous build to start out with.

To give an idea, my very first character was a thief. I could not get past Undead Burgh, no matter what I tried. I started a new character, the pyromancer. I never actually used pyromancy, but I chose that build for the early battleaxe and light armor. And, other than O&S, I had a challenging, but fun run through the game.

Granted, the set up sucks entirely at PvP, but it excels in most situations in PvE.

 

[clippen05]

Dead Money DLC expansion for Fallout New Vegas. It took me like 5 months to finally complete it in small doses. Worst Video game experience ever

 

[Uikri]

You forgot to mention Blighttown. Arguably harder than Tomb of the Giants.

@Uikri: Blighttown isn't too bad if you know where the bonfire is. Especially if you picked up the Rusted Iron ring, a Spider Shield and the Healer's outfit. Though Quelaag is a challenge if you face her hollow.

That's true as far as just getting to the boss, but if you're planning to explore that God forsaken place, it's a whole different story. All those booby traps and high falls. *cringe*

 

[I Max95]

wasn't easy at all for me

combat was a crap shoot, occasionally i could defeat all the undead soldiers and make it to the end but the boss always beat me because by that point i had pretty much run out of health potions and only had an inch of health left at all, not only that but i kept stumbling into places i shouldn't have, a graveyard full of unkillable skeletons, a pathway that seemed like an alternite way to the end but just revealed a crowd of zombies that bullrushed me, an unassuming tunnel that ended in a giant armored knight who killed me within seconds of discovering him.

i played through the level over and over, dying incredibly cheap deaths from enemies off screen that i didn't even see chucking bombs, and from the stupid fact that my shield didn't block for shit. some of my best tries were when the AI glitched and did something it wasn't supposed to, like fall off of high places or charge at me alone while their companions stay behind blissfully unaware of my presence, it's a sad thing when a game is only playable when it's broken

and lastly, i could overlook all of this if the story had made me the slightest bit interested, if it had actually caught my attention, but no, i didn't understand what was going on and with the world so bleak and uninviting i didn't care what happened to anyone in it, least of all the character i was playing as

you like the game, fine, but don't pretend that just because it gets much worse that undead burg isn't fucking hard, the whole game is fucking hard, i may be getting too worked up about it but Dark Souls is a game that flatout pisses me off, especially when i hear people praise it

Dark Souls is not there to make you happy. It is there to beat the shit out of you over and over again. The boss actually has a really easy strategy. You'll have a hard time blocking anything with a cracked round shield. If your shield sucks and you can't get a better one, dodge.

Cheap deaths are a given in Dark Souls, but they almost never happen unless the player is acting recklessly. It's a sad thing when people can only play a game when it holds their hand or makes things easy on them.

You sound like you played for all of about an hour, maybe two, and then decided to ragequit. You also sound like you tried to rush through every single time, and like you didn't even bother to explore for better gear. To succeed at Dark Souls, you need to be patient, observe your surroundings, be careful even when you don't think you need to, and it helps to not walk into the area where the firebomb throwing guys can hit you. If you played the unpatched version, God help you, as those bastards are going to jump down every single time you get to that little room filled with bad guys. Undead Burg isn't fucking hard if you take your time, and get better gear. You can get a full wooden shield for free through the door in the area where the archer is shooting at you and you have three undead warriors on you. You can buy a Heater Shield from the merchant. You want to talk about hard? You go ahead and fight the Four Kings alone on NG+ or higher with the completely wrong build, and tell me that doesn't piss you off more than Undead Burg. I can practically guarantee that it will.

you realize that a game beating the shit out of you over and voer is NOT a point in it's favor right? who in their right mind would want to put themselves through that

just because you think it's easy doesn't make it so, it was hard for me, and i was patient, the first 30 times i died, then i just said fuck it and ran as fast as i could past every enemy i saw, and you know what? i actually did BETTER, it still wasn't enough, but i did make it further.

and i don't mind difficulty, i can deal with difficulty, there just needs to be a difficulty curve, a difficult game needs to start off easy and accessable and slowly become more and more difficult until it reaches the end, Dark Souls' difficulty curve begins hard and just gets worse. my first few deaths were just me trying to get used to the controls

Cheap deaths caused by player recklessness? how does that make sense? a cheap death is something unforseen and stupidly overpowered that players can't seem to stop, such as a death by a pair of giant immortal skeletons that i only wandered into because the game couldn't be bothered to tell me where the fuck i was supposed to go. i wasn't being reckless, i was just exploring and i was punished for it. that is why i didn't explore looking for better gear, because every time i tried i get steamrolled by something i hardly ever see coming


you say i played it for all of an hour and you know what? you're right, a game doesn't have to be easy it just has to be fun, Dark Souls isn't, if a game isn't fun then it needs to have a story that makes me want to get through the shitty gameplay to make it to the end, Dark Souls doesn't, and if a game doesn't fucking fit either of those criteria in the first hour or two i don't care how jaw dropping it gets later on, i'm not wasting any more time on it

 

[Padwolf]

The Last Remnant. Damn why must that game be so hard? I have to take on a frigging army and then take on a boss? Screw you game! Screw you! Halfway through disc 2 the game beat me. Then my save file got wiped.

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

you like the game, fine, but don't pretend that just because it gets much worse that undead burg isn't fucking hard, the whole game is fucking hard, i may be getting too worked up about it but Dark Souls is a game that flatout pisses me off, especially when i hear people praise it

Dark Souls is not a difficult game, it's just unforgiving. It doesn't let you get away with making any mistakes, or you'll get a pike the size of an aircraft carrier planted between your ears.

But once you know the strategies, it's not hard to play. I'm on New Game+ and absolutely stomping some of the hardest bosses in the game by just knowing what to do and not acting stupid.

That's the really easy part of the game. If you should ever venture down to the inky blackness that is the Tomb of Giants will you truly know defeat.(Gravelord Nito)

Nah, Sen's Fortress is where the real fun is for the uninitiated player. Swinging blades of instant death; floor traps; boulder traps; Mimic. So much fun!

... back to the question at hand. Croc defeated me. I was, mind, only a child back then. But, my gosh, that game was not age suitable -- one too many slippery ice platforms and I gave up.

EDIT: Enjoying the fact that this is slowly becoming a "hardest part of Dark Souls?" thread.

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

Obligatory Dark Souls response. I think we all know why.

I have played frustrating games (original Mega Man games, for example) but nothing had me as crazy pissed off as Dark Souls did. It wasn't even funny anymore, it was just sad. I wasn't determined or feeling a sense of accomplishment. I just felt like a migrant worker, sewing shoes in a sweat shot. One pair done simply meant I had to move on to the next.

 

[Legendairy314]

Let's see here...

Final Fantasy 13- Mostly because I REALLY didn't want to grind over and over just to finish the rest of the game. Oh, and I started getting my ass kicked because I didn't grind. No thanks.

Crash of the Titans- Good god did they butcher Crash Bandicoot. I eventually got to some sort of gauntlet with no checkpoints in-between that had 4-5 mini bosses at one time. And then they respawned. ALL OF THEM.

Dark Souls- Stun locks, good god the stun locks. Plus I got to a point where I realized how screwed I was going to be later down the road and just gave up. Getting backstabbed by some other player's fists wasn't too great either.

Trials Evolution- You want me to do WHAT?

Mirror's Edge- Put me in a room with no clear direction and tons of baddies with assault rifles and I feel like you want me to throw a controller at your face.

 

[Cipher1]

Armored core 4 - The Womb and Marche Au Supplice on S rank just screw those missions every time I would run out of ammunition.

As for Dark Souls didn't really find it all that hard since my first play through was a mage so once I found the spell merchant the game might as well of rolled the credit screen.