How to fight.

[plumsmuggler]

I'll post my opinions here that i posted in the other thread, but why are you saying with any luck? I mean... fightings usually you want to avoid.

Anyway, opinions:

Fight to kill. If someone calls the ambulance and you have to be held back, you're doing it right.

Hit in jabs, keep your pace and breath, and keep out of your opponent's reach. you dont need to give a haymaker everytime.

Break every joint you can. Break the arms at the elbows, break his legs at the knees. Ensure he cant get back up to throw another punch.

Aim for the throat. A gasping enemy is a vulnerable enemy. Hold him to the ground and threaten to crush it, to make sure he cant take in air. Dont be on his level, hold him with your foot and ensure he knows you're not joking.

Hit the sides of the eyes, they cause temporary to permanent blindness. I'm guessing he's not a blind samurai so without sight he'll fall fast.

Dont be afraid to bite. Just dont swallow the blood. The human mouth is a dirty place and infection can bloom. Make sure you bite for something vital. It desont have to be the neck, thats a bit rough to do. Instead, bite the wrist and pull, make the hand lose blood flow. Another good place the achilles tendon. If it keeps hockey players down for 4-6 weeks if not more, it will bring this guy down.

Never assume the fight will be fair. Anything can be turned into a weapon. Keys are great, especially mailbox keys (small ones). Aim for the temporal lobe (where the ears are), its the softest and weakest part of the brain, but holds some of the most important zones of the brain.

Gauge out the eyes. If possible, dont cut your fingernails. Yeah, it looks girly, but so what. Deep scratches will be bothersome, and a missing eye is crippling.

Use the opponents momentum against them. Stay on your toes and let your opponent's fists slide off yours. This leaves you still pointed directly at them, and your opponent open and falling towards you.

finally, never let them get behind you. If they are ever out of your view at all, immediately swin, back of the hand out, knuckles out, and hit the person. it may hurt your hand, but it will hopefully knock the opponent back and into your site.

Always remember, this is for the kill. Dont stop, make the crowd stop you. You want to ensure the person is scared of you, that they wont want to try again. make them fear for thier lives, if you can, bring them within inches of death. This also scares other people out of fighting you, and lets everyone know shit will go down if you are fucked with.

As a side note, IMO nut shots and guns are low class. dont bother with either. a nut shot stops to hurt if a person is hit there enough, and it only makes it so the person is ready next time. They're also very easy to block and at least redirect and lessen the power of. A simple turn and a leg up will knock the leg away. If your opponent is that close to you where they can kick you, you are doing it wrong, or you deserve it. If you're that close, there's no reason to not go for something more vital.

And dont bring friends unless tehy're there to carry you beaten body home. Ganging up on somoene is just you being a pussy.

So, how many people have you killed?

 

[emeraldrafael]

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So, how many people have you killed?

XD None that i know of. I've crippled a few people (gave them a limp), i've bloodied a few more people then that. I've given a the majority of kids that i've fought (and this will sound surprising, but seriously, i've never instigated a fight) a scar or two to go home and show everyone. And yes, at one point a laid a kid in a hospital, though to be fair i was in it with him by the time the fight was done (we called it a draw, and actually we're really good friends now).

But have I killed anyone? No, i try to reserve myself from that. Murder is something that gets bothersome to deal with it. So much time wasted and paper consumed all to tell everyone something they could see themselves. besides, its more intimidating for the person to spread the story of who beat their asses instead of giving people a dead body to look at.

... yea, you could say i grew up in a bad neighborhood, but really i grew up close to one and hung out with more kids from that neighborhood then my own.

 

[zfactor]

I'll post my opinions here that i posted in the other thread, but why are you saying with any luck? I mean... fightings usually you want to avoid.

Anyway, opinions:

Fight to kill. If someone calls the ambulance and you have to be held back, you're doing it right.

Hit in jabs, keep your pace and breath, and keep out of your opponent's reach. you dont need to give a haymaker everytime.

Break every joint you can. Break the arms at the elbows, break his legs at the knees. Ensure he cant get back up to throw another punch.

Aim for the throat. A gasping enemy is a vulnerable enemy. Hold him to the ground and threaten to crush it, to make sure he cant take in air. Dont be on his level, hold him with your foot and ensure he knows you're not joking.

Hit the sides of the eyes, they cause temporary to permanent blindness. I'm guessing he's not a blind samurai so without sight he'll fall fast.

Dont be afraid to bite. Just dont swallow the blood. The human mouth is a dirty place and infection can bloom. Make sure you bite for something vital. It desont have to be the neck, thats a bit rough to do. Instead, bite the wrist and pull, make the hand lose blood flow. Another good place the achilles tendon. If it keeps hockey players down for 4-6 weeks if not more, it will bring this guy down.

Never assume the fight will be fair. Anything can be turned into a weapon. Keys are great, especially mailbox keys (small ones). Aim for the temporal lobe (where the ears are), its the softest and weakest part of the brain, but holds some of the most important zones of the brain.

Gauge out the eyes. If possible, dont cut your fingernails. Yeah, it looks girly, but so what. Deep scratches will be bothersome, and a missing eye is crippling.

Use the opponents momentum against them. Stay on your toes and let your opponent's fists slide off yours. This leaves you still pointed directly at them, and your opponent open and falling towards you.

finally, never let them get behind you. If they are ever out of your view at all, immediately swin, back of the hand out, knuckles out, and hit the person. it may hurt your hand, but it will hopefully knock the opponent back and into your site.

Always remember, this is for the kill. Dont stop, make the crowd stop you. You want to ensure the person is scared of you, that they wont want to try again. make them fear for thier lives, if you can, bring them within inches of death. This also scares other people out of fighting you, and lets everyone know shit will go down if you are fucked with.

As a side note, IMO nut shots and guns are low class. dont bother with either. a nut shot stops to hurt if a person is hit there enough, and it only makes it so the person is ready next time. They're also very easy to block and at least redirect and lessen the power of. A simple turn and a leg up will knock the leg away. If your opponent is that close to you where they can kick you, you are doing it wrong, or you deserve it. If you're that close, there's no reason to not go for something more vital.

And dont bring friends unless tehy're there to carry you beaten body home. Ganging up on somoene is just you being a pussy.

Holy shit.

You pretty much said "Kill him, here's how." Of course, that is the point of most fighting, but a school brawl? You are at school, if you pull just about anything above (very important - unless he attacks first) you will be in deep shit. So make sure there is a crowd around to say that he attacked you before you snap his knee or pop his eye (which is a bit extreme for school bully brawls, you want to go for disorientation or knockout moves because then you can say, "well I could have torn his arm out of its socket, but I decided to minor brain hemmorrages instead."

Anyway, my thoughts are above, with a comment on nutshots. They can be used effectivly. If you try to kick him there he will tend to do one of three things - block with his arms, block with a leg, or dodge it. If he blocks with his arms, now his face is open for a nice palm strike to the jaw (which, if done with enough force, hurts like a *****). If he blocks with a leg, you can try to sweep the other one or try to knock him off balance. If he just gets out of the way, keep attacking or be prepared to block his counter.

Not that any text on a screen saying "here's how to fight" will actually help you. If you have never been in a fight before or have not had years of martial arts training, most of this flys out the window when the adrenaline kicks in...

 

[ExaltedK9]

Bring friends. And a heavy tool of some sort.

That or don't get into a situation where you would need to fight in the first place...

EDIT: Or pull a Tyler Durden and scream/laugh like you're having the best time of your life.

Maybe if he was in a gladiator's duel. Unless you're OK with 25 to life, I wouldn't bring a weapon, or risk your buddies turning it into an all-out riot.

Eyes, throat, groan, top of foot are all good targets.

If you stomp on his foot and keep it there, then gauge him in the eyes, he will most likely fall. The fall plus your foot securing his to the floor will cause his ankle to snap. After that it's just cleanup.

Y'all do realize this is a school fight?

Go for the adam's apple, testicles, and the spot on his head just in front of his ear. Hit those hard enough and often enough, and it's in the bag. Other spots of opportunity include his hamstring, his armpit, his funnybone, and the joint behind his kneecap, which can be crippled with an extremely well-directed frontal blow.

Also, make sure you come across as the victim if there are any witnesses around. Then you can pass it off as self defense.

The temple? A solid move if you want to put your opponent into a coma. Not really thinking ahead, when you decide to use it on a school bully.

If you want to put the hurt on him without landing yourself behind bars, then all you need do is:

Conceal yor fear.

Go for the pressure points (not the fatal/comatose inducing ones) among which are the forearm, just below the elbow, for when he grabs you, the kidneys, if you find yourself in a headlock. The space between his ribs, and his jaw, for the knockout.

 

[zfactor]

But have I killed anyone? No, i try to reserve myself from that. Murder is something that gets bothersome to deal with it. So much time wasted and paper consumed all to tell everyone something they could see themselves. besides, its more intimidating for the person to spread the story of who beat their asses instead of giving people a dead body to look at.

Why give them a body to look at? If I ever killed somebody there wouldn't be a body (well, they would never find it)...

NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW OR ANYTHING.

 

[Something Amyss]

Obviously, if you can find a way - don't fight. Real men (like Alan Shore and gallaetha_matt) use their awesome, sexy words.

Alan also used wads of cash. Though that didn't work out as well.

I've been following you in threads since you argued with me a while back. Why we're not solving crimes together is a mystery.

You've also presented the argument why rich people don't win fights. This is something I support.

But you have to admit Alan Shore is all kinds of awesome. I wanted to make a demotivational poster entitled 'Bros Before Hos,' with a picture of him and Denny Crane smoking cigars and drinking scotch on the balcony, because that pretty much personifies the expression.

Boston Legal is awesome.

Crime fighting is a personal dream of mine. Do you prefer an office or a psychadellic van?

Alan Shore is definitely awesome. And Spader plays so well off Shatner. It's pretty incredible.

 

[HT_Black]

Go for the adam's apple, testicles, and the spot on his head just in front of his ear. Hit those hard enough and often enough, and it's in the bag. Other spots of opportunity include his hamstring, his armpit, his funnybone, and the joint behind his kneecap, which can be crippled with an extremely well-directed frontal blow.

Also, make sure you come across as the victim if there are any witnesses around. Then you can pass it off as self defense.

The temple? A solid move if you want to put your opponent into a coma. Not really thinking ahead, when you decide to use it on a school bully.

Oh, crap. I didn't realize that maiming/life-threatening injuries were out. Yeah, you should probably forget that and the bit about the adam's apple. Everything else should be keen, though, assuming you don't accidentally sever anything. Try pulling your punches a little bit, I guess.

My bad.

 

[plumsmuggler]

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So, how many people have you killed?

XD None that i know of. I've crippled a few people (gave them a limp), i've bloodied a few more people then that. I've given a the majority of kids that i've fought (and this will sound surprising, but seriously, i've never instigated a fight) a scar or two to go home and show everyone. And yes, at one point a laid a kid in a hospital, though to be fair i was in it with him by the time the fight was done (we called it a draw, and actually we're really good friends now).

But have I killed anyone? No, i try to reserve myself from that. Murder is something that gets bothersome to deal with it. So much time wasted and paper consumed all to tell everyone something they could see themselves. besides, its more intimidating for the person to spread the story of who beat their asses instead of giving people a dead body to look at.

... yea, you could say i grew up in a bad neighborhood, but really i grew up close to one and hung out with more kids from that neighborhood then my own.

No, no you haven't. You're a big talker trying to sound tough by advocating lethal force while decrying a shot to the balls as "being a pussy."

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Holy shit.

You pretty much said "Kill him, here's how." Of course, that is the point of most fighting, but a school brawl? You are at school, if you pull just about anything above (very important - unless he attacks first) you will be in deep shit. So make sure there is a crowd around to say that he attacked you before you snap his knee or pop his eye (which is a bit extreme for school bully brawls, you want to go for disorientation or knockout moves because then you can say, "well I could have torn his arm out of its socket, but I decided to minor brain hemmorrages instead."

And? i didnt say he should just go busting this out anytime he wants. he's going to get into trouble with the school regardless since most have a zero tolerance policy. he may as well do as much damage as possible so the guy learns a lesson about pissing with him. Besides, like i said in a different post in this thread, you dont kill the kid. Have him walk around and say what happened. and besides, this shouldnt be at school. Anyone in their right mind isnt going to fight in school, then a teacher will just run over and break it up.

I just told him how to end the fight as quickly as possible with as little damage to the person asking the question as possible.

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A) You odnt know me. yes, thats... well, thats stereotypical line, but its true, you odnt know me.
B) I said bringing friends to gang up on him is being a pussy. I said a kick to the balls is ungentleman like and just going to make the kid madder.

 

[PureIrony]

Forget the crotch. Its the first place people expect to be hit, and they'll just close their legs.

Kick above the shins, in the front of the calve. Theres very little to protect the bone and blood vessels there, so at the very least he'll wince for a second.

Then, go straight for the neck. If it doesn't knock him down, it'l at least take the wind out of him, at which point you can go out of your mind.



And always watch for grapples, there a real *****.

 

[emeraldrafael]

But have I killed anyone? No, i try to reserve myself from that. Murder is something that gets bothersome to deal with it. So much time wasted and paper consumed all to tell everyone something they could see themselves. besides, its more intimidating for the person to spread the story of who beat their asses instead of giving people a dead body to look at.

Why give them a body to look at? If I ever killed somebody there wouldn't be a body (well, they would never find it)...

NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW OR ANYTHING.

Good point! XD But still, bodies turn up. and in the small.. well... eh, not really small. I went to a AAA sized highschool based on population in students (out of a max of AAAA) and grew up surrounded by a AA school and another AAA school, so its average enough.

But in a twon that size, bodies show up. besides, tehyre arent enough woods to hide the body. and again, like i siad, I dont kill people. Its too much work after for very little gain.

 

[Death on Trapezoids]

Brass Knuckles.

Buy them and soon, you too can enjoy the crunch of your enemy's face beneath your brass-coated fist.

Lacking those, smash his nose as hard as you can, THIS HURTS. Then keep swinging.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Brass Knuckles.

Buy them and soon, you too can enjoy the crunch of your enemy's face beneath your brass-coated fist.

Lacking those, smash his nose as hard as you can, THIS HURTS. Then keep swinging.

I think brass knuckles are illegal to carry on your person. I'm not criticizing or anyhting, i just think they are.

 

[Death on Trapezoids]

Brass Knuckles.

Buy them and soon, you too can enjoy the crunch of your enemy's face beneath your brass-coated fist.

Lacking those, smash his nose as hard as you can, THIS HURTS. Then keep swinging.

I think brass knuckles are illegal to carry on your person. I'm not criticizing or anyhting, i just think they are.

I never said that brass knuckles are legal. Heck, in some areas it's illegal to even own them. But in those same areas they are still available.

Isn't it interesting that brass knuckles can be outlawed while equally and/or more deadly weapons like knives and bludgeons can't?

 

[emeraldrafael]

Brass Knuckles.

Buy them and soon, you too can enjoy the crunch of your enemy's face beneath your brass-coated fist.

Lacking those, smash his nose as hard as you can, THIS HURTS. Then keep swinging.

I think brass knuckles are illegal to carry on your person. I'm not criticizing or anyhting, i just think they are.

I never said that brass knuckles are legal. Heck, in some areas it's illegal to even own them. But in those same areas they are still available.

Isn't it interesting that brass knuckles can be outlawed while equally and/or more deadly weapons like knives and bludgeons can't?

Well I'm pretty sure you cant carry a switchblade in some states. um... other then that, yea, its actually kinda funny in a dark humor sort of way. BUt you know Americans. Gotta have us our guns, yes sirree.

though i never found guns appealing, so i dont get the purpose of why we need them besides war, since most people who use them "hunt". if you can call kill an animal from hundred of yards away that has no real defense against it and may never even know you're there "hunting". but thats a different topic for a different thread.

 

[Ensiferum]

My suggestion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1YO0sSL4gs

Guaranteed results.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Break his fingers, one by one.

What? It's easier than breaking people's arms!

 

[HellsingerAngel]

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Wow...

Way to ensure this dude will get a criminal record for a brawl, if not charges for excessive force to manslaughter. Honestly, you have no idea how to fight if this is your concept of "best tactics ever" to use. Really, I'm surprised you're not in jail right now if what you say is true, if not a mental institution. Don't start putting guides to taking another human being's life on a public forum.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Wow...

Way to ensure this dude will get a criminal record for a brawl, if not charges for excessive force to manslaughter. Honestly, you have no idea how to fight if this is your concept of "best tactics ever" to use. Really, I'm surprised you're not in jail right now if what you say is true, if not a mental institution. Don't start putting guides to taking another human being's life on a public forum.

??? What? He asked, I answered. What about the people who say, pack heat, bring a knife, bring brass knuckles? Give them the lecture as well. Again, I dont kill people. i just ensure they know not ot fight me again. Thats the point of a fight. To settle things. If you're not going ot make your opponent scared to piss with you later, you're just delaying the inevitable rematch. And i didnt say kill him, I said fight to kill. if you fight till the person is on their back, or till tehy give up, they'll just get back up and come find you later.

Besides, its what my uncle taught me, and its what they taught him in the marines. So if its good for the US Marines, its good for me and should be good for anyone else.

 

[HellsingerAngel]

...I don't even know why I'm going to argue this...

Besides, its what my uncle taught me, and its what they taught him in the marines.

You know why that might be? Because the Marines are a branch of the United States military and their job is to enter situations in which people are trying to kill them! They fight to kill because if they don't, they'll die! Going overseas to fight wars and protect the citizens of your nation is just slightly above "fight the schoolyard bully" on the totem poll of "force needed to end conflict". You're essentially telling someone to gouge someone in the temple with a car key because, what, he stole someone's lunch money? Seriously dude, get help if you don't see what's wrong with that statement.

Someone who's beaten won't be challenging another person anytime soon, especially if you won convincingly enough. It's an ego bust and that's all. Lethal force (and that's exactly what you've condoned, in detail no less) is reserved for last case scenarios in life threatening situations! Fighting to kill is indirectly telling this guy to kill whoever he's fighting. If you need to break five bones in a man's body to make him feel threatened by you, you really need to learn how to handle yourself better, because there are far more efficient and less dangerous ways of doing that.