I want Obsidian to make the next Elder Scrolls game
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Obsidian is good at making interactive books. They have some decent writing for video games. Bethesda is good at making awesome video games that keep you entertained with gameplay for 300+ hours and can last you for 4+ years. New Vegas is over once the storyline is.
New Vegas was a crap game in my opinion but people defend it and are biased because of devotion to interplay.
FO3 was the much better game. People just complain about canon and storyline like whiny nerds.
New Vegas was a crap game in my opinion but people defend it and are biased because of devotion to interplay.
FO3 was the much better game. People just complain about canon and storyline like whiny nerds.
I'm an Obsidian fanboy, so an Elder Scrolls from them would garner my interest. New Vegas was a 10000% improvement over Fallout 3 to me, with much more player choice in terms of gameplay and story progression. Obsidian tends to have some very good writing, and are one of the few big RPG developers that can stray away from the "epic" story (where your goal is to fight the big bad evil) and make it shine. Even with its flaws and unfinished nature, Knights of the Old Republic II is one of video gaming's best stories (and a shoe-in for best story in Star Wars).
I'm not blind to Obsidian's flaws, but I've largely avoided the game-breaking bugs that others have detailed. I've gotten plenty of the smaller ones, though. I can't play KotOR II without an audio glitch that occurs about once every two minutes from the game's start to its finish. I've had plenty of radscorpions get stuck in the landscape in New Vegas. These things don't kill the games for me, though. Not even close.
I'm not blind to Obsidian's flaws, but I've largely avoided the game-breaking bugs that others have detailed. I've gotten plenty of the smaller ones, though. I can't play KotOR II without an audio glitch that occurs about once every two minutes from the game's start to its finish. I've had plenty of radscorpions get stuck in the landscape in New Vegas. These things don't kill the games for me, though. Not even close.
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I completely agree. While I share the OPs point about being eager to explore all the regions, I will gladly wait a little longer to play a proper ES game, than one that was hastily put together by money hungry production companies.
It should stay with Bethesda.
It is enough that Activision ruins the Call of duty franchise this way. Why do you actually WANT a company to do this? Wanting more of the same?
If we are to learn anything from the Call of duty franchise, it is that there has been minimal innovation from title to title since Modern Warfare 1. Both in gameplay and graphics. The stories get thinner with each release and you also pay much more for less content.
And to make this possible, modding would have to be stopped and possibly a multiplayer introduced.
Regardless if it would work out and work out great... you would not like to eat your favorite ice cream every day.
If we are to learn anything from the Call of duty franchise, it is that there has been minimal innovation from title to title since Modern Warfare 1. Both in gameplay and graphics. The stories get thinner with each release and you also pay much more for less content.
And to make this possible, modding would have to be stopped and possibly a multiplayer introduced.
Regardless if it would work out and work out great... you would not like to eat your favorite ice cream every day.
Actually, they made a Game which was far more connected to Fallout 1 and 2, and re-added the variety of weapons (Not quite as many, but approaching that of Fallout Tactics:BoS) and the ability to modify them that was in Fallout 2, they brought back a lot of the humour that fallout 3 was missing, and kept a lot closer to canon, as well as making character variety closer to the originals, companions that don't suck, and a karma/notoriety system that was more realistic in entity, and more akin to the one in the older original Fallout games, I mean sure at launch and for awhile after it was buggy as hell, but then again anyone who will fault them on that should also look at a lot of other games with the same problem, this is an industry wide problem not just one or two companies.Gnometron said:
I'm not saying they "Did it better!" or anything, but I am saying that it tied in with the series FAR BETTER than 3 did... also in 3 they never explained how Harold made that epic journey accross an entire fucking continent including surmounting the rockies to get all the way to DC, hell he was pretty much the only real tie to the old games, and as a wonderful add in for fans, they KILLED HIM OFF, as a tiny completely forgettable, and generally unimportant sidequest.
Just saying, I don't want obsidian to touch elder scrolls stuff, but another fallout addition wouldn't go amiss.
Also Obsidian has people from Black Isle studios, y'know the guys who worked under interplay to make fallout 2, in their staff, they know fallout.
they didn't "Steal Ideas from fallout 3" they used their knowledge and adapted it to the engine given to them to make another fallout game.
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So you want the next Elder Scrolls game to be completely unplayable for at least 3 months after release?
I'm biased because of my devotion to Interplay? I have no devotion to Interplay, and I don't know anyone else that does!michael87cn said:
Obsidian has done some.... crap. I wasn't impressed with KOTOR 2, Alpha Protocol was pretty funky, I hated Neverwinter Nights 2, and I wasn't impressed with Dungeon Siege 3. Now that being said, I really like how they did Fallout. Maybe its a good idea for them to stick to doing Fallout games? Either way, I don't want the Elder Scrolls being ignored for another few years because of Fallout 4 or something.
I don't like obsidian. As hard as I tried I couldn't get into new vegas, it didn't suck me in in anything like the same way that Fallout 3 did. I think that their hands should be kept firmly off the Elder Scrolls . (No offence intended to anyone who works for obsidian.)
I don't see a reason why. So we could play another TES game in the next year or two ? I say enjoy this one and let Bethesda move on to other things. Quality over quantity.
Also, why Obsidian? Do you like poorly optimized games that crash at worst possible times? Glitchy quests that frustrate and break immersion, ruining everything good one has to say about the game? No, Obsidian should not touch TES franchise, and just get back to making New Vegas DLCs, or another quick buck game.
Also, why Obsidian? Do you like poorly optimized games that crash at worst possible times? Glitchy quests that frustrate and break immersion, ruining everything good one has to say about the game? No, Obsidian should not touch TES franchise, and just get back to making New Vegas DLCs, or another quick buck game.
Hmm, maybe, in my experience with them Obsidian is capable of insanely good games, and if anyone can make an Elder Scrolls game as good as Bethesda it's them. But as others stated Bethesda's had close to 20 years of experience with the Elder Scrolls, so Elder Scrolls is practically in their blood.
But if Bethesda consulted with Obsidian a bit so they knew what NOT to change in regards to lore and what Argonians look like and such I could see this working. Both Bethedsa and Obsidian would be giving the games the proper amount of time, but with this leap-frog release schedule we'd get them more often, I think it could work if it ever happened.
But if Bethesda consulted with Obsidian a bit so they knew what NOT to change in regards to lore and what Argonians look like and such I could see this working. Both Bethedsa and Obsidian would be giving the games the proper amount of time, but with this leap-frog release schedule we'd get them more often, I think it could work if it ever happened.
So far I've had Skyrim crash straight to desktop with no warning a total of: 3 times.
That's it. That's the only real issue I've run into. That and a few broken quests.
New Vegas is over a year old. I still have to save my game EVERY time I go through a door to a different area because roughly 50% of the time the game crashes.
And I'm still pissed about NWN2's ending. So I'd rather Obsidian, love them as I may, keep their dick out of my Elder Scrolls.
That's it. That's the only real issue I've run into. That and a few broken quests.
New Vegas is over a year old. I still have to save my game EVERY time I go through a door to a different area because roughly 50% of the time the game crashes.
And I'm still pissed about NWN2's ending. So I'd rather Obsidian, love them as I may, keep their dick out of my Elder Scrolls.
I'd like to see Obsidian make a retro, top-down, pixel-art action-RPG.
That way, they wouldn't need to spend nearly as much time working on character models, animations or clipping, and could provide a more stable experience, while their storytelling and design skills have a better and more straightforward canvas.
Seriously, imagine how amazing a retro-style game could be with current-gen power and disk space.
That way, they wouldn't need to spend nearly as much time working on character models, animations or clipping, and could provide a more stable experience, while their storytelling and design skills have a better and more straightforward canvas.
Seriously, imagine how amazing a retro-style game could be with current-gen power and disk space.
I wouldn't mind if they continued licensing the Fallout series to Obsidian (though I suspect they'll either do it in house or use one of the other developers from the Zenimax family) but the Elder Scrolls should stay at Bethesda, and it should remain an event series that only comes around every once in a while.
You do realize that it's impossible to do a pre-4th edition D&D game, right? They only license out the current version of the rules to game developers.bussinroundz said:
There are plenty of indie developers making old school RPGs, so I don't understand why you're so butthurt that AAA don't do that any more, since there's no lack of that kind of content. There's actually as much or more than there's ever been.
Hell, even Age of Decadence has gotta be getting close to release by now.
Elder Scrolls isn't a series known for its story. It's a series renown for it's open-endedness and freedom of choice, that and it's durpy AI and ability to break the game with ease. Still it's a fun series that does what it does really well, I might not always enjoy it (Loved Morrowind, disliked Oblivion, haven't played Skyrim) but I can always respect it.
Obsidian would do their usual thing with added dialogue and story, they'd try to create a more compelling narrative experience which sounds great on paper, but it's not why people play the Elder Scrolls series. Meanwhile what Obsidian doesn't do well is tight gameplay or polish, though to be fair Dungeon Siege 3 is pretty bug-free.
Regardless just a silly match-up. Worked for Fallout because Obsidian has ties to the original games, no such connection exists like that for the Elder Scrolls series.
Personally I think Obsidian should do like Double Fine did and put their effort, at least for a time, into creating smaller projects. Downloadable titles, fun niche projects and the like. I'd love to see what a studio as creative as they are would come up with.
Obsidian would do their usual thing with added dialogue and story, they'd try to create a more compelling narrative experience which sounds great on paper, but it's not why people play the Elder Scrolls series. Meanwhile what Obsidian doesn't do well is tight gameplay or polish, though to be fair Dungeon Siege 3 is pretty bug-free.
Regardless just a silly match-up. Worked for Fallout because Obsidian has ties to the original games, no such connection exists like that for the Elder Scrolls series.
Personally I think Obsidian should do like Double Fine did and put their effort, at least for a time, into creating smaller projects. Downloadable titles, fun niche projects and the like. I'd love to see what a studio as creative as they are would come up with.