Leaked Microsoft Video Reveals Horrible Future for PC Gaming

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ReiverCorrupter said:
Irridium said:
I'll just copy/paste what I said about this earlier:

So... who are they targeting with this?

The casual market is already on facebook, and GFWL is nowhere near as user-friendly, so they won't be using this.
The hardcore PC gamer market isn't exactly on the best of terms with Microsoft for obvious reasons.
And everyone else either doesn't care or just uses Steam.
Any Xbox owners they'd hope to target will have Xbox's, and won't really care. They'll just do the stuff the video showed on their 360's. Unless they're going after the people who'll want to change Xbox stuff on their PC's. In which case thats a pretty specific market to target. Since anyone with a gaming PC will probably be turned off by the look of all of this.

So... yeah, whats their plan, exactly?
To target women. Didn't you notice how all of the avatars were women in their 30s-40s? They were all soccer moms. We only get one guy at the end, and that was clearly an afterthought.

It's really rather disgusting that they have such a low regard for women. Did you see the one where she buys a dress for her avatar and then jumps up in the air like her life is complete? Sickening.

But... those types of women are already in Facebook...

Ugh, I should really stop trying to make sense of Microsoft's plans.
 

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Puked in my mouth. ( i think we all know the song)

Too much light and too much pink. Sad future...
 

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Targeting a market that can't/don't know how to pirate makes sense. Facebook games are making thousands of percents on returns because of their low development costs (money + time both), but that doesn't exactly spell disaster for the future of pc gaming. If each studio has 2-3 casual games that are making mad profit off casual gamers, and those three games don't take a lot of money + man hours to update, that means studios don't have to worry about making every game action-adventure to appeal to the masses in hopes of higher returns. (well, they don't have to worry about that as much anyways, to some degree of limit, obviously their stockholders won't be happy if they're making games they know won't sell well) That might actually mean better games coming out that aren't just a shotgun appeal to every genre by adding as many gameplay elements as they possibly can.

Wow, rereading what I wrote I'm so idealistic it kinda makes me sick, aw well, imagining rainbows and unicorns ahead isn't the worst idea.
 

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Well, it's not surprising. It's been obvious for a while that the game industry wants to start going after the lowest human denominator who will be willing to spend tons of money on stupid things like Avatar costumes.

The trend has been brewing for a while, and truthfully I think it's something we, the serious gamers could have stopped, but we didn't while it was moving one step at a time. In the end we wound up embracing every new change, and effort to bring more casual people into gaming, one element at a time, and now the gaming industry doesn't really need us for the time being, since while profitable we're just not as profitable as say doing a trivial amount of graphics work to make virtual clothing (the equivilent of one piece of armor in an RPG), and then selling it to the stupid for their Avatars for $5.

I also find it kind of amusing that shooters are increasingly catering to the masses, and tend to be one of the easiest types of game to make, and also among the most deritivitve, and that's what's shown as serious gaming.

Honestly, we'll see what happens, I hope we aren't abandoned, but well... it's obvious Microsoft is going where the money is.

Truthfully when it comes to PC gaming I don't want a "full online experience" unless I'm playing an MMORPG, I want a solid, single player game I can enjoy on my own. I actually don't want to get into all of this "social networking" stuff. That's what games like WoW are for. Nor do I want my games to have to be connected to the internet to be used at their full capacity.
 

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Reminds me of that digimon movie with that virus digimon, that trys to destroy the world through the web.

OT: I've already said something about this on another page.... Here:
Some illiterate people write it p0wned... But Microsoft. Seriously stop, go shove your head in a washing machine and then come back when you have some fresh and clean new ideas. This idea will probably never leave the concept stage so start over and do something different.
 

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I don't think Microsoft is going to have much affect on PC gaming as a whole- you don't have to use Games for Window Live- or whatever they're calling it.
Well, you do if it's integrated into the game. I spent probably over an hour fighting with GFWL trying to get Bulletstorm to run, and although the game seemed fun when I finally got it to work, it's soured me on loading it a second time on the offhand chance I'll have to fight Microsoft again to make the damned thing run.

GFWL is what would happen if Steam was run by incompetent people who likely also hate joy.
 

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Leaked Microsoft Video Reveals Horrible Future for PC Gaming

An internal Microsoft video showing the company's dark, horrific vision for the future of the "Windows Gaming Experience" has found its way onto YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPYdgy35KA&feature=player_embedded]. [Caution: not for the faint of heart.]

That which is seen cannot be unseen, which is a real shame when it comes to things like this video created by Microsoft that details the company's plan for a connected, social, casual gaming experience characterized by bright colors, microtransactions and ceaseless interaction with online "friends." The importance of Avatars, representing the "style, attitude and character" of each person's online identity, is a big point of emphasis, as is the ability to easily search for, find and share new games and media across multiple platforms.

The focus here is clearly on the casual market. The video kicks off with Battlefield 2 [http://www.farmville.com/] by buying him a better gun and then immediately misspells "pwn3d."

I don't even know what to say here. Maybe I'm being overly harsh, or maybe I'm bitter because I'm feeling left out, but if this is what Microsoft means when it talks about taking the PC seriously as a gaming platform, I think I'll just go back to watching television.

via: PC Gamer [http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/20/leaked-microsofts-work-in-progress-vision-of-the-future-of-games-for-windows-live/]


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Ahahahahahahahah!
Sorry, I can't stop laughing.

Hehem! First off, I don't see the problem in that at all. If they just include the interface form XBOX 360 to the PC, It's not a problem. How many players of XBOX just don't care and play their game as usual. I bet all the functionality of a pc will still be intact otherwise what's the point in having one in the first place.

Does someone wanna take me on that bet?
 

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Therumancer said:
Well, it's not surprising. It's been obvious for a while that the game industry wants to start going after the lowest human denominator who will be willing to spend tons of money on stupid things like Avatar costumes.

The trend has been brewing for a while, and truthfully I think it's something we, the serious gamers could have stopped, but we didn't while it was moving one step at a time. In the end we wound up embracing every new change, and effort to bring more casual people into gaming, one element at a time, and now the gaming industry doesn't really need us for the time being, since while profitable we're just not as profitable as say doing a trivial amount of graphics work to make virtual clothing (the equivilent of one piece of armor in an RPG), and then selling it to the stupid for their Avatars for $5.

I also find it kind of amusing that shooters are increasingly catering to the masses, and tend to be one of the easiest types of game to make, and also among the most deritivitve, and that's what's shown as serious gaming.

Honestly, we'll see what happens, I hope we aren't abandoned, but well... it's obvious Microsoft is going where the money is.

Truthfully when it comes to PC gaming I don't want a "full online experience" unless I'm playing an MMORPG, I want a solid, single player game I can enjoy on my own. I actually don't want to get into all of this "social networking" stuff. That's what games like WoW are for. Nor do I want my games to have to be connected to the internet to be used at their full capacity.
In what way having the Xbox 360's interface would impede you from gaming?
 

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We're despairing here, but I can only imagine the celebration party at Valve, having just found out one of their major competitors is on about as right a track as a train following deer footprints...
 

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Irridium said:
ReiverCorrupter said:
Irridium said:
I'll just copy/paste what I said about this earlier:

So... who are they targeting with this?

The casual market is already on facebook, and GFWL is nowhere near as user-friendly, so they won't be using this.
The hardcore PC gamer market isn't exactly on the best of terms with Microsoft for obvious reasons.
And everyone else either doesn't care or just uses Steam.
Any Xbox owners they'd hope to target will have Xbox's, and won't really care. They'll just do the stuff the video showed on their 360's. Unless they're going after the people who'll want to change Xbox stuff on their PC's. In which case thats a pretty specific market to target. Since anyone with a gaming PC will probably be turned off by the look of all of this.

So... yeah, whats their plan, exactly?
To target women. Didn't you notice how all of the avatars were women in their 30s-40s? They were all soccer moms. We only get one guy at the end, and that was clearly an afterthought.

It's really rather disgusting that they have such a low regard for women. Did you see the one where she buys a dress for her avatar and then jumps up in the air like her life is complete? Sickening.

But... those types of women are already in Facebook...

Ugh, I should really stop trying to make sense of Microsoft's plans.
I didn't say it made sense. That just seems to be what they're trying to do. Honestly I couldn't understand why they introduced avatars into XBL. I would have just preferred an update that would make my menus NOT TAKE 30 SECONDS TO OPEN EVERY TIME I PRESS THE GODDAMN GLOWING X BUTTON.
 

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um so here's a question... Who gives a shit. Its just something casual. Its nothing thats gonna destroy PC gaming. I mean Valve aren't just gonna die out over night. Battle field 3 still happening. Seriously... it doesn't make a bit of difference.
 

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I'm guessing this is microsoft's way of saying; "not only did pc gaming died; it went to hell!"
 

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Soon, simply buying a physical copy of a video game and playing it without a ton of auxilliary stuff is the software version of off-the-grid life.

On a more serious note this might very well strike a chord with publishers. Games are over-monetized already (increased reliance on DLC, the Battlefield Heroes ordeal and whatnot) and this is more or less logically follows. But at some point the moneygrubbing will peak and the pendulum will swing the other way towards a more strictly game-oriented market (this might happen as the market fractures, as Extra Credits mentioned).

Either way, is anyone surprised that Microsoft suddenly embraces gaming when Office can be replaced by Google Apps, the traditional operating system is going obsolete and Windows Phone 7 had such a disappointing start? Gaming is probably the most reliable and competitive part of their business right now.