Let the incest begin!

[Phenakist]

Faith in Humanity -10^10000

I feel properly sick to share a name with him.

This kinda thing happening with fish or ants or whatever, fair enough but comparatively "intelligent" human beings? No, just no.

The use of a surrogate, fair enough, everything else, just no, a grandmother and grandson having some sort of passionate relationship is wrong. I'm all for being close to your family but not THAT close.

You do realize that if you raise a real number with an even exponent the end result will always be a positive number, right?

So, your faith in humanity is going through the roof.

Forgot how to do tiny numbers, so it's supposed to be negative 10 million billion trillion or some stupidly high number (or in this case low number). or just add a 3 to the number I had there

 

[samnoxid]

Fry from futurama tryed some thing like this. Although that was very different, and hilarious.

OT: I just feel very sorry for the child, i don't think its right for him/her.

 

[Mymla]

Saying that this is wrong is the same as saying that homosexuality is wrong. Both incest and homosexuality is sexual deviancy. And most people are grossed out by homosexuality to some degree.

Arguing that this shouldn't be allowed to happen, when both of them are clearly consenting adults is nothing but bigorty and intolerance.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Some of you need to get your facts straight regarding genetics..

Even direct incest causes a tiny, tiny rise in the chance of visible problems, like insignificantly small. Exposure to a huge variety of legal household substances during pregnancy is infinately more likely to cause birth defects.

Genetics becomes a problem when people have a limited gene pool over several generations. Even then it increases the risk of inheriting negative characteristics or genetic diseases, which is an entirely separate thing from most birth defects.

It's forbidden because it's considered psychologically unhealthy. Dogs and most animals will happily mate with their siblings and/or parents, and there's no evidence of any instinct against it. The same goes for homosexuality (apart from not being forbidden and not considered, by most sensible people, to be psychologically unhealthy).

EDIT: There is some evidence that people react asexually to pheremone signatures which are similar to their own and that this might be some way of promoting genetic diversity, but I don't even think that's been confirmed, and besides, understanding of how pheremones affect us is still fairly in its infancy.

So yeah.. there's no non-socialized reason to be wierded out at all.

 

[Zhukov]

Huh. Well, I'm going to go ahead and sit on the fence.

On the one hand they're consenting adults, they're not hurting anyone and there's no actual incest going on.

On the other hand, well... ew!

Now, where's the vodka? If I get really really drunk right now I might just be able to scrub this from my mind.

...

Ew.

Ewww!

 

[Koganesaga]

A man is going to have a child with his grandmother, now, be it above me to question love, but surely every fiber of a person's being (at least on a genetic level) should be against this sort of thing happening.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100430/tod-granny-72-having-a-baby-with-her-gra-870a197.html

I fully expect some escapists stuyding psychology to lay the some Freudian smackdown on this case.

Would do you guys think? I think we can agree that it's wrong, but a surrogate mother is being used, so it's not technically inbreeding.
Edit: Read the bold, this is not really incest, but the discussion is this. Is loving a family member is such a way, regardless of babies, surrogate or otherwise, considered wrong?

Doesn't Freudian do the Oedipal complex? In which case it would be the mother, not grand mother that's the target here. However should he have projected him mother position on to the grandmother I suppose that could still count as in his mind it's still his mother figure. Also you say they're using a surrogate, does that mean they're still using the granny's egg (somehow)? That's still an inbred child no matter how you look at it. If not, then disgusting as it is, there's still no real harm done. Just for the love of god home school the kid, or the child will need a psychologist to stop it from committing suicide from all the mockery.

 

[hydrahh]

Wow, that story was kinda sexy. It feels so wrong, but it feels so right!

 

[ultimateownage]

You guys realise the only reason you find it wrong is because its been socially ingrained in you to think its wrong?

No, it's been naturally ingrained into us to think it's wrong. If it was natural for this to happen, then the baby wouldn't be mutated.

 

[Optimus Hagrid]

Robot Incest, on the BBC at 9:00 every Saturday.

Craig Charles: "Let the incest begin!"

Announcer: "3... 2... 1... FORNICATE!"

Why did I find writing the above oddly nostalgic?

On topic: Erm. Ew. That's odd.

I guess I don't have anything wrong with it, but...

Granny sex. And it's your own Granny.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Doesn't Freudian do the Oedipal complex? In which case it would be the mother, not grand mother that's the target here.

Unless his grandmother fed him and was thus responsible for his earliest pleasure experiences, there's no reason Freud would have anything to say here.

In fact, since he was put up for adoption one would presume he had no contact with his genetic family, and thus no foundation for any kind of Oedipal relationship with them.

 

[archvile93]

There's a reason these things are considered taboo in just about every culture on earth. It reduces genetic variability, allowing more genetic defects to manifest.

 

[elvor0]

Saying that this is wrong is the same as saying that homosexuality is wrong. Both incest and homosexuality is sexual deviancy. And most people are grossed out by homosexuality to some degree.

Arguing that this shouldn't be allowed to happen, when both of them are clearly consenting adults is nothing but bigorty and intolerance.

What? Get real. Incest is bad for the genetic gene pool. Homosexuality is perfectly normal, though it's still viewed as a little odd. You're just either trolling or failing to understand that people inbreeding leads to a weaker genetic pool, and the babies of incest are deformed. The reason incest shouldn't be allowed is because it's bad for the race.

Homosexuality effects noone but the two men/women involves, incest is bad for us all.

 

[agrajagthetesty]

Consenting adults, harming nobody else. I see no problem here.

Of course, you could argue that they'll be causing harm to the child due to the mockery it'll receive - but won't that be more the fault of the people doing the mocking? And some children are mocked for having ginger hair. Should we stop people with ginger hair from having children?

Just because my knee-jerk response is to go "ewww", that doesn't mean I should be able to stop them from doing whatever the hell they want with their own lives.

 

[Mymla]

Many people do not really understand. This isn't incest at all

It's still an incestous relationship. They're still having sex with each other. They're just not having each other's babies.

edit:

What? Get real. Incest is bad for the genetic gene pool. Homosexuality is perfectly normal, though it's still viewed as a little odd. You're just either trolling or failing to understand that people inbreeding leads to a weaker genetic pool, and the babies of incest are deformed. The reason incest shouldn't be allowed is because it's bad for the race.

Homosexuality effects noone but the two men/women involves, incest is bad for us all.

This is not bad for the gene pool. They are not having a baby together. She's too old for that for one thing. Raising a baby, sure, but that's not the same.

What alot of people in this thread are saying, however, is that "SHIT HES FUCKING HIS GRANDMA KILL IT WITH FIRE". Which is, like I said, bigotry.

Question: homosexual incest, better/worse? Two brothers or two sisters fucking each other? Living together? Adopting a child together?


Also, on a related topic, I've wondered for a while now, but when has it been proven that incest does indeed have such a massive effect on the health of the child? I wouldn't imagine a massive amount of research has been made in this area.

 

[Flamezdudes]

I Think this says it all

WIN. Bloody epic!

 

[dalek sec]

In this topic: People trying to impress over the internet with their pretend uber-tolerance. As for me, I vomited a little in my mouth.

I had to run for the toilet, gods damnit I hate my own race so much some days...

I have a gif from Battlestar Galactica that sums up my feelings about this but I'm sure I would be banned if I posted it. Still, this man needs to have a talk with those two:

 

[Sonicron]

That kid is a future suicide waiting to happen. Sad, but highly probable.

Even with in-vitro fertilization, this whole deal is wrong on so many levels it threatens to collapse my mind.

 

[AMMO Kid]

thats....kinda creepy

 

[Vitor Goncalves]

Give me a second I am not feeling well
*rushes to the toilet and pukes*
Wuahh WHAT!!!! They what?!!! Wait a minute. I am not feeling well still...
*toilet moment*
What the hell is going on here?! I mean, the sole idea of me having an affair with my grandma is just disgusting, wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe it. Fortunetly the baby is not hers, but they are buying a donor egg.

 

[Jack and Calumon]

I am never going to get that images out of my head!

Calumon: Why did you even Click on this thread! >.<