Mass Effect Andromeda first impressions?

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Adam Jensen said:
And this is just hilarious


Games is emotions and emotions therefore are games.
Mass Effect Andromeda is the most games of all games because it has the most emotions.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Currently playing Witcher 3, and I have to say there is no end of wonky animation, dodgy facial animation and even main story cutscenes that fail to load something as simple as a sword in Ciri's hand when she draws it out...This is after the game's fully patched, completed and won awards and critical acclaim. So I do believe there are different standards being upheld here. Be aware of subconscious bias, humans.
You might want to verify the game file integrity. I must have played through The Witcher 3 five times by now and I've never encountered those problems. I know that others have had weird issues caused by corrupted game files though.
 

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Didn't particullary enjoy it. Story didn't grab me and Characters seemed uninteressting which is pretty bad in a Bioware game. Gameplay also just feels clunky and unresponsive on PC on basic movement. Combat seems largely fine, though. But again it's nothing to write home about, the quite frankly atrocious face-animations just take a lot of joy out of the conversations, which aren't that great to begin with. Just on a whole it seems uninteresting.
 

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oRevanchisto said:
I played all the 10 hours the trial could offer and can't wait to play it all the way through once the game releases. It's exactly what I want out of a Mass Effect game from what I played. For some reason it's "cool" to hate on BioWare at the moment and somehow posting funny animation gifs is reason enough for the whole game to be declared garbage, but I don't play RPG's for Uncharted level facial animation. Still, dumb gifs aside, I was actually really impressed by the facial animation in the game. Yes, there is some occasional derpiness but your player character is way more expressive than really any modern RPG I've seen (weird, no one made gifs of Horizon's awful stiff animations), this is especially amazing considering you can customize your character.

Any way, I play Mass Effect and RPG's for the in-depth stories and great characters and so far Andromeda has been delivering. It feels a lot like Mass Effect 1 with its slower pace and I love it, feels like a real Star Trek type sci-fi game that I want. I enjoy just walking around and talking to as many people as I can and scanning weird new alien worlds. If you liked the past Mass Effect games then you'll probably like Andromeda, if not then I don't know.

A totally unbiased opinion. I do not believe you played all 10 hours and not notice how bland your companions are. Some of those dialogs are horrible lip sinked. Not to mention those ugly ass faces on the women. Guess i'll be going solo this mass effect game or until we get a mod on the PC that fixes their faces.
 

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trunkage said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
Currently playing Witcher 3, and I have to say there is no end of wonky animation, dodgy facial animation and even main story cutscenes that fail to load something as simple as a sword in Ciri's hand when she draws it out...This is after the game's fully patched, completed and won awards and critical acclaim. So I do believe there are different standards being upheld here. Be aware of subconscious bias, humans.
I literally had way more bugs in Witcher 3 than Fallout 4. F4 crashed once after almost 100 hrs. Witcher 3 crashed about 20 times. I had so many issue like what you described and others like having to reload because quests didn't flag. I played F4 on launch and Witcher 3 a few months after launch so it already had some patches.

Like the Zelda: BOTW review score shenanigans with Sterling, if a group decides a game is good, there can be nothing wrong with it. The group cant let others have their own opinion on what a game is like. I'd still class W3 as the better game, but that doesn't mean there wasn't problems with it.

I did get a case of Sky Bear in F4 so they had funnier bugs...
That's how jim sterling made his name. He bashed good games (along with bad ones) to get himself clicks to get to the point he is at today. It wasn't a surprise to anyone who knows how that asshole works. The amount of followers that obese sjw shill has is obscene.
 

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IamGamer41 said:
A totally unbiased opinion. I do not believe you played all 10 hours and not notice how bland your companions are. Some of those dialogs are horrible lip sinked. Not to mention those ugly ass faces on the women. Guess i'll be going solo this mass effect game or until we get a mod on the PC that fixes their faces.
Now, you're just reaching. How can you possibly judge your companion characters based on the brief time to had with them in the game? We've literally just met them for the first time. Also, for that brief time we had with them my human companions seemed pretty interesting and well written with some great banter. But, how can you possibly judge your companions based on the little time we've had with them? Or are you suggesting a character like Garrus was the most well written and interesting dude in Mass Effect 1 after our first mission with him?

IamGamer41 said:
That's how jim sterling made his name. He bashed good games (along with bad ones) to get himself clicks to get to the point he is at today. It wasn't a surprise to anyone who knows how that asshole works. The amount of followers that obese sjw shill has is obscene.
Ah, you're one of those people.
 

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I haven't played the demo, and am actively avoiding anything spoiler-ish, but I have to admit the reports of face derping and janked animations is a bit worrying. Putting off all the whiny fucks that cry about female facial designs is one thing, but some honest to god glitching, tearing, or whatever is a bit disconcerting.

But be that as it is, as long as I can play as a gay black woman smashing more pussy than a biotic slam, than fuck it, I just hope the story is entertaining... and good I guess.
 

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I have sworn off anything EA and Bioware after the 'Ending' but I have been following the ME:A debacle for many reasons, including amusement and a sense of personal closure because frankly I was a huge fanboy of Mass Effect, perhaps I still am for the first two installments.

I can nitpick on what has been released about the game so far but all I can force myself to say is this: Most if not all of the people that made the Bioware brand have left the studio, many of them right after ME 2. Just compare and contrast the end credits of the trilogy to see how much it changed between ME2 and ME3.

As for Mass Effect Andromeda this is a game made from a new studio at Montreal that is a Bioware studio in name only. There may as well be no people employed there who had any creative oversight or even input in either of the first two games, possibly even the third. The quality of the game being so low only serves to highlight the fact that the franchise was given to a brand new studio that had no experience with it.

If we have to accept one fact then that fact is this: Bioware as we knew it has long been dead, what we see walking now is the dead body that is walking according to the whims of its corporate puppetmaster.
 

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dragoongfa said:
If we have to accept one fact then that fact is this: Bioware as we knew it has long been dead, what we see walking now is the dead body that is walking according to the whims of its corporate puppetmaster.
Does this mean Bioware's gonna go the way of Maxis, Origin, and Bullfrog then?
 

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The worst part about this fiasco, I think is that thanks to EA's absolutely gargantuan Marketing machine, this phoned-in piece of crap game is going to still sell like hotcakes and spawn an entire series of sequels.
 

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Torque2100 said:
The worst part about this fiasco, I think is that thanks to EA's absolutely gargantuan Marketing machine, this phoned-in piece of crap game is going to still sell like hotcakes and spawn an entire series of sequels.
Of course it will. Just the name "Mass Effect" in the title will already make it sell like crazy. Combine that with tons of people that are way too willing to ignore the terrible parts of the game just to be able to play the new shiny thing, and ME:A will probably be considered a success if you go on sales numbers alone.

I might personally eventually buy it if it's on sale for 50% off or more. As I do love Mass Effect as a whole. But it's certainly not worth 60 euro to me. I'd rather save up for a while and buy a Nintendo switch so I can play BotW. (Yes, I'd rather spend 400 euro or more to play BotW and get some other games for the switch later, than pay 60 to play ME:A.) Either that, or I might get it if it turns out that the game does get a lot better after the first 10 hours. (Though the UI, animations, atrocious planet scanning, cheesy/bad dialogue and story and DA:I style open world design hardly seem fixable at this point.)
 

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SlumlordThanatos said:
From what I can tell, reviewer first impressions are rather mixed. Some like it, others hate it (Rock, Paper, Shotgun has almost nothing but bad things to say about it), but there's no consensus, and no indication that it gets better.

I didn't preorder this game, but I'm still looking at reviews with great interest. I want this game to be good, and I can forgive a slow start.
Pretty much in the same boat. I hope it is good cause if it is I will buy the game new to support the team that made it. There seem to be a lot of people, on this board in particular, that have a vested interest in the game being bad though, seems silly.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
dragoongfa said:
If we have to accept one fact then that fact is this: Bioware as we knew it has long been dead, what we see walking now is the dead body that is walking according to the whims of its corporate puppetmaster.
Does this mean Bioware's gonna go the way of Maxis, Origin, and Bullfrog then?
It will just be the funeral of a stinky body because someone kept heating it up at the morgue long after its death.
 

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Completed as much of the first planet as the trial allows. Seems okay, despite a few shonky areas and the humans looking like hot garbage.

My biggest complaint is, so far, I don't really care about anyone. The original Mass Effect had Tali, Garrus, Wrex, and Shepard themself.
This one? I kinda like oh crap I've forgotten the black dude's name is it Liam I don't know but he's the best of them and I forgot his name already.
 

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I haven't touched it and I doubt I will. Seems like they're going for a more action based focus a la ME3 so I've dropped it.

However, for a company with a legendary status for writing prowess, backed by one of the biggest publishers, using an engine which has been shown to have amazing potential graphically... visually it looks underwhelming. Disappointing even. Yes you can harp on all day that the staff is basically a bunch of new people and so on. BUT with the amoubnt of time and money invested in the game, with the sheer amount of renown BIOWARE has... there really shouldn't be as many excuses honestly.
I mean, give some great devs that backing and I wonder what they could achieve?

Of course, EA being EA they could have put fistfuls of grubby mitts into this pie and really just messed it up for everyone.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Completed as much of the first planet as the trial allows. Seems okay, despite a few shonky areas and the humans looking like hot garbage.

My biggest complaint is, so far, I don't really care about anyone. The original Mass Effect had Tali, Garrus, Wrex, and Shepard themself.
This one? I kinda like oh crap I've forgotten the black dude's name is it Liam I don't know but he's the best of them and I forgot his name already.
You were introduced to Garrus, Wrex, and Tali within the first hour of ME1 and immediately loved them all?
 

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oRevanchisto said:
You were introduced to Garrus, Wrex, and Tali within the first hour of ME1 and immediately loved them all?
Can't comment as to Andromeda as I don't have EA access, and am honestly not interested enough after 3 to look up videos, but yes. The moment you met each of them, they had a firm personality, and honestly that was the biggest hook for most of the characters; that first introduction to them. Afterwards they were mostly lore exposition machines, except Garrus who was a moral dilemma of law vs vigilantism exposition machine. You meet Tali and you instantly know that she's a shy, but capable, Quarian who wants to prove herself and help fight the Geth. You learn what drives her, her personality, and the sort of person she is. Same goes for Garrus, as he deals with a hostage situation his way. And Wrex, who you are introduced to having an argument with C-Sec, and by the end of half an hour's game time with the three of them you've blasted through Fist's base and learned even more about them.

Everything after was more lore about their people than it was building on their character for the most part, again, except Garrus. Ashley was one that needed time to grow on you, and Kaiden, but even they had their hooks at the start.

Things only get better going into ME2, where even without knowing the characters from ME1 they are given intros where in 30 seconds they just oozed with personality and character. If ME2 did one thing right, it was atmosphere and character. The plot was pretty garbage TBH, but the way it was written... Brilliant.

So, if characters are just bland and boring in ME:A, then that isn't the same as ME1 or ME2, ME3 we'll leave out because it was a huge mixed bag. That said, I don't know how many companions you meet, and I don't know how awful the writing is to start with to be able to make my own judgement yet - but ME1 definitely gave you a good hook to the characters from the start, and built on it with one or two points during the story, that only worked because of that initial hook and investment you got.


On a couple of side topics in this thread:
Nitpicking. I've said this many times when talking about the Mass Effect series, but go read Shamus Young's 50 article essentially fucking thesis on the Mass Effect series. It covers this whole "Nitpicky" thing pretty well. For people who are action and drama first, and feel the focus of the game should be there - like it was in 2 and 3 - then yeah, it can feel nitpicky. For details first people who loved ME1, and its worldbuilding and the way its story was constructed - its not nitpicking, it is entirely destroying half the appeal of the games. Flashy gunplay doesn't make up for loss in story, especially when that gunplay is thoroughly mediocre and at times worse than in 1, though also at times better. Not following the details-first formula of 1, however, is IMO what led to the collapse of Mass Effect as a whole, as they stopped caring about making sense and having a good story, and it all become about action and drama - turning it into a cross of Michael Bay, Shounen Anime, and M. Night Shamalayan works, combining the worst of all 3 to boost the shit out of the drama, at the expense of it all being idiotic nonsense that didn't respect the player, the story, or the series as a whole. Keep to details first and ME2 would have had a relevant plot, Kai Leng wouldn't have been stupid plot magic space Ninja, and almost everything in ME3 would have been different because, fuck, almost all of it was just nonsense.

Hoping Bioware crashes. This is NOT the same as hoping a ton of people lose their livelihoods, any more than driving faster in your car to get somewhere urgently fast is hoping to spend more money on petrol that week. Its an unfortunate side effect, but its not what you're hoping for.
Bioware, however, get no empathy from me. In the ME3 ending thing, they lied to their customers, insulted them, tried to reverse complaints into marketing while not saying anything to those complaining except "Artistic Integrity", and "You just don't get it". They deserve every bit of backlash coming at them for that. Sure, things seriously exploded there - simply talking calmly, apologising that it didn't meet everyone's expectations, and not stirring the pot would have kept it a lot smaller though. The devs, EA PR, IGN and other outlets insulting the fans though, saying that those who didn't like it were just too stupid to get it, and taking the whole controversy and trying to advertise with it?
Yeah, get fucked. Maybe the backlash was a bit much. You made it worse on yourself, and you deserve everything people throw at you.

Plus, honestly, Bioware isn't Bioware anymore. I don't think there are many, if any, of the original, great, staff there anymore - and there certainly aren't any of the original project leads. It needs to die and disappear so that the brand can rest in dignity, and have the studios rebranded to their initial names, and working on new IP that doesn't try to draw people in with name recognition, while having little to do with the games that created that name. No-one needs to lose their jobs, but Bioware should go. Well, at least Mass Effect Bioware.
Dragon Age Bioware has shown competency and willingness to improve. They aren't doing great by any stretch, however they have potential. I'd give them another game to see how things go there, before judging whether the studio is up to snuff with the brand and games or not. ME should honestly have died after 3, and started a new Sci Fi brand instead. Would have been a much smarter move, dodging all the ill will, and it wouldn't have had all the lore and baggage of Mass Effect itself to drag it down.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
>Can't change any graphic settings wihtout changing the preset as a whole
>Loads game with Medium settings
>Game crashes, takes Origin and Firefox with it
It's a badly optimised console port, don't expect miracles.
 

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Is "my face is tired" millennial slang for something? Because I don't actually understand what it means in this context (if any context, do faces get tired?).
 

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wizzy555 said:
Is "my face is tired" millennial slang for something? Because I don't actually understand what it means in this context (if any context, do faces get tired?).
I don't think it means anything else. The facial animations are shitty, so I guess that means their face is tired. Nothing clever behind. I could be wrong though.