Megan Fox Wants to Star in a Live-Action Sailor Moon Movie

[Queen Michael]

I'd say no thank you. We don't need more whitewashed Americanized Japanese stuff. The Ring, The Grudge, and so on... Let Asian movies be Asian.

Isn't Sailor Moon, by its nature, already Americanised?

Since it's a Japanese manga and a Japanese anime about Japanese people, I'd have to say no to that.

I may be misremembering the show? But I thought the cast it self was represented as a little broader than Japanese? Or even Asian? I mean the main title character is a Blue Eyed Blonde? And was the other blonde the daughter of an Ambassador (for some reason I want to say an American Diplomat, but that may have just been a localized translation?)

Nah, all of them were Japanese. It's just that Japanese people see almost all cartoon characters as Japanese, just like white people see everybody as white.

Marge Simpson is a great example of this. She's got an afro, like black people, and her skin is yellow, but we still see her as white. That's kind of how Japanese people look at Sailor Moon.

 

[Norithics]

Marge Simpson is a great example of this. She's got an afro, like black people, and her skin is yellow, but we still see her as white. That's kind of how Japanese people look at Sailor Moon.

Except it isn't deemed problematic when Hispanic Marge Simpson appears in another country?

 

[Kaimax]

Seriously though, how are they gonna handle the costume changes with live action?

Well ,The Japanese already thought about it. (Don't forget they already have a live action serial TV for Sailor Moon)
Go to 2.07 for the live action transformations

 

[Voulan]

I'm just impressed that she actually knows about these shows. It's good to have another famous nerd figure out there.

She can't act for beans. She was bad in Transformers, she's gonna be bad in TMNT, and she's been bad in a bunch of other films. All she can do is flash skin and hope that none of the guys notice that fact.

To be fair, her role in Transformers was a terrible one anyway, which she said herself and which caused that big controversy. She was just saying aloud what we all think - that Michael Bay is a terrible director, and her character was nothing more than a sex doll for the camera to pour over. There's only so much you can do to make yourself look like a decent actor with that to work with.

And as a result she keeps getting type-casted.

 

[sandangel]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I'm not even on the Megan Fox hatetrain, but I object simply on the level of Americanizing my first experience with Anime, and yes, I'm aware that the original DiC dub was a load of crap, don't care. After the last attempt with Dragonball Evolution and that Avatar thing, I think we've proven this sort of thing is a bad idea.

DO NOT WANT.

 

[Ratty]

Marge Simpson is a great example of this. She's got an afro, like black people, and her skin is yellow, but we still see her as white. That's kind of how Japanese people look at Sailor Moon.

Except it isn't deemed problematic when Hispanic Marge Simpson appears in another country?

How so? Are you referring to a joke they had in one episode or something? Or do you mean how the characters can be easily identified as belonging to the dominant group in a country with a dub?

If it's the latter then I'd say that's something that has probably helped the Simpsons become such an international phenomenon. Just like supposedly "looking white" has helped anime gain traction in the west. People like stories about people who look like them. Still, most characters in anime are actually Japanese, as reflected by events in their stories, just as the Simpsons are actually from the USA, as reflected by events in plots for various episodes.

 

[The Great JT]

No ma'am. I say to thee on this matter, no. Sailor Moon works well as a monster-of-the-week/slice-of-life show, it's really not set up well for movies. Yes, I know about the movies they DID make, but those were one-off adventures that could just as easily, with some tweaking, be three- or four-part episodes. Further, even if by some act of divine intervention you were given a role in the movie, you definitely wouldn't be given the lead and would be lucky to receive a role as one of the villain's subordinates.

Further, speaking for my own opinion, you aren't all that good of an actress. Pretty, sure, but a talented actress you are not. Further, you have a penchant for picking terrible movies and ridiculous roles in them. I'm aware I shouldn't be talking unless I could do better, but to put it colloquially, "I call 'em as I see 'em."

 

[Queen Michael]

Marge Simpson is a great example of this. She's got an afro, like black people, and her skin is yellow, but we still see her as white. That's kind of how Japanese people look at Sailor Moon.

Except it isn't deemed problematic when Hispanic Marge Simpson appears in another country?

They made a version where they changed her race? Where and when?

 

[Something Amyss]

It was dubbed into English after originally being in Japanese.

And Americanised, but that was kind of the point. The problem appears to be that I tried to wrap such a statement in jocularity.

I somehow doubt Fox is talking about doing a version faithful to the Japanese version.

Then again, she's more a geek than people give her credit for, so maybe?

My problem is, good actress or not, Fox is too old for the role.

Bah! Back in my day we had thirty year olds playing teenagers all the time! TV was full of balding teen boys and perimenopausal teen women! What's good enough for me is good enough for you! *shakes cane*

I'm not sure how many non-fans remember/realize this, but they're supposed to be middle-school students. (Usagi is 14 when the series starts.)

Weren't they all, and didn't they downplay that?

I thought all or most of them were supposed to be 14 at the beginning and it always made that one line in "One Week" super creepy.

You know the one....


Hey, Sailor Moon has plenty of guy fans. I'm one of them. And furthermore...[/quote]

And there are plenty of Transformers fans who are girls. So?

I'm not one of those. I actually cared about the story and characters, seeing bits of myself in all of them.

It seemed too absurd for me to care about.

Then again, I was too busy balking at people claiming it was a girl power show. Buffy and Sailor Moon, lowering the bar for Girl Power in the 90s by a large margin.

And just as a pre-emptice to anyone reading this, I really don't care if it was totes diff in the original version or the manga. I'm aware things change when they're imported. I grew up on Voltron, Tranzor Z (Mazinger Z) and early Robotech programming in the 80s, and oh hell, even my avatar got an implied sex change in the English dub of TB2. I just don't care because it's not really related to the version we had, the one we were talking about.

 

[Leonardo Huizar]

...Please dont be Sailor Jupiter

Though it would make sense if they cant get the license to do SailorMoon [which will be up to Takeuchi Naoko ultimately], that instead do some other take on the Magic Girl genre and maybe make it work with 5 super human heroines fighting extra dimensional enemies on earth.

 

[Riverwolf]

My problem is, good actress or not, Fox is too old for the role.

Bah! Back in my day we had thirty year olds playing teenagers all the time! TV was full of balding teen boys and perimenopausal teen women! What's good enough for me is good enough for you! *shakes cane*

I grew up with Power Rangers, too. ^_^

Weren't they all, and didn't they downplay that?

...no, they didn't downplay it at all. At least not in the Japanese version. Their youth was brought up all the time.

I thought all or most of them were supposed to be 14 at the beginning and it always made that one line in "One Week" super creepy.

You know the one....

...actually, never heard of that song, but yes, the main five are 14-ish at the beginning.

And there are plenty of Transformers fans who are girls. So?

Just saying girl geeks aren't the only ones who'd be upset by the casting choice.

It seemed too absurd for me to care about.

Then again, I was too busy balking at people claiming it was a girl power show. Buffy and Sailor Moon, lowering the bar for Girl Power in the 90s by a large margin.

I was still a preteen when the whole "girl power" thing was... a thing, so I don't even really know what that was. (Sounds like some kind of pop-feminism.) I always did regard Buffy, at least the first season, as kind of an American Sailor Moon.

 

[FalloutJack]

Listen, I don't even like Sailor Moon and I think this is a bad idea. Actually, not liking Sailor Moon probably makes it doubly-bad to me. As for Gundam...you'll never get Gundam. They didn't get Bebop either.

 

[KazeAizen]

I'd say no thank you. We don't need more whitewashed Americanized Japanese stuff. The Ring, The Grudge, and so on... Let Asian movies be Asian.

When doing movies explicitly set in or using Japanese people I think they can do the live action version but only if they do what the Magnificent 7 did. Keep the concept the same but tailor it to the local audience. Now of course I'd love to see Japanese people be the main cast of the still in the works Bleach or Akira movie. However if they chose to go with locals that aren't Japanese they shouldn't call it Akira. Call it "Adam: Inspired by the acclaimed anime classic" and then keep the basic story structure the same while tailoring the issues and references. Sure you may still be inclined to call it a version of white washing but I think its better than having the film be called Akira and some white guy being called Testuo or Kaneda when clearly that would never be those guys names.

 

[Voulan]

To be fair, her role in Transformers was a terrible one anyway, which she said herself and which caused that big controversy. She was just saying aloud what we all think - that Michael Bay is a terrible director, and her character was nothing more than a sex doll for the camera to pour over. There's only so much you can do to make yourself look like a decent actor with that to work with.

And as a result she keeps getting type-casted.

She keeps getting "type-casted" because that is the extent of her acting ability.

Or do we need to run down the list of movies she's been in?

Bad Boys 2: Played a girl in a bikini
Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen: Played a vapid airhead as the school's "popular girl"
Transformers: Played as Shia Lebeouf's "motorcycle girl" arm candy
Jennifer's Body: Played a cheerleader (possessed by a demon)
Jonah Hex: Played a prostitute


Noticing a theme there, maybe?

I'm sorry, but at some point, you can't just blame it on type-casting. You can't possibly tell me that Megan Fox can't get a part that doesn't involve her showing off half of her body and/or acting slutty. Even Kristen Stewart of all people got a job outside of Twilight. She sucked at it, and it revealed just how awful she was at acting in general, but she got one.

This is the first job she's gotten that arguably *isn't* about her showing off her skin, and I don't doubt that Michael Bay still found a way to twist the character of April O'Neal to make her do it anyways.

All right, calm down. I'm only saying her biggest role in Transformers is a role that even she says was terrible. And most of the time actors don't get to choose their roles - they take what they can get, and that's all they're offering. And now she's stuck having to play these shallow roles.

I'm not saying she's a great actor, but she's certainly not the worst out there.

 

[Voulan]

All right, calm down. I'm only saying her biggest role in Transformers is a role that even she says was terrible. And most of the time actors don't get to choose their roles - they take what they can get, and that's all they're offering. And now she's stuck having to play these shallow roles.

I'm not saying she's a great actor, but she's certainly not the worst out there.

I'm perfectly calm. I'm simply saying that's nonsense.

Megan Fox is one of the better known female actors on the market. There is no way she couldn't find some job outside of a skin-flashing one. You can't possibly convince me that she's forced to pick these roles because there aren't any other options in a world where Kristen Stewart got a job as Snow White.

Seriously, dude, look at the films she says she wants to do.

She wants to play a scantily clad underaged girl in a Sailor Moon movie, or she wants to be in a Thundercats movie....you wanna point to the female character in that series which isn't overtly sexualized? Good luck, since there's only one, and in the most recent iteration of the show, she looks like this:

Spoiler

The only one that isn't arguably sexualized on her list is Gundam Wing, and even there, you could point to the fact that not a lot of the female cast tends to actually pilot the Gundams.

Methinks it's less that she's been "type-cast" and more that she CHOOSES to be in roles like this because she likes them.

Ah sorry, another case of tone being lost over the Internet. Her filmography isn't the best at all, I agree, but as a result no one would likely cast her in a more serious role without audience backlash. Not unless they were willing to make that risk.

I think we both agree that we don't really want to see these movies made though.

Also not a dude, but no worries.

 

[Nazulu]

Why not. All the movies are shit these days, this would have a chance of being more interesting since it's based on a concept we don't see as much. Hot chicks vs stupid monsters.

 

[Elijin]

I could buy her as Sailor Mars, I guess.

Also its been said a few times, but Sailor Moon getting whitewashed? Many people have piped up calling that bullshit. The main character is a blonde blue eyed girl. You dont get more whitewashed than that. People just need to accept that the Sailor Moon most people saw, was the Americanized one, which came pre-whitewashed. Maybe your inner geek totally watched the original series, but most westerners got the Americanized one.

 

[Defective Shade]

Yeah and I want to be big bird