Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns

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neppakyo

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lol, and xbone threads were starting to die down too.

Good thing I have no interest in this POS. Having four xbox360's red ring and die was enough for me, stopped with the xbox over a year ago.

Thank god I do the majority of my gaming on the PC. All hail the glorious PC master race.
 

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You know, I'd sorta glad this is happening.

I've personally have been against the Xbox ever since they came out with their cheaply build easily RROD 360, and I've been wanting to see them booted out of the console wars. Let it just be PS3 and Nintendo competing, we don't need a 3rd competitor in all this making me fork over more money for exclusive titles. But now that I'm seeing this happen, I'm going to be looking forward to watching "The One" crash and burn in a spectacular fashion come this next generation.

I'm not denying it, I'm a Xbox hater and a PS fanboi.

Here's to the victory of watching Halo games coming out on the PS5 in later generations.

Also PC > All.

Cheers!

^.^
 

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Little Gray said:
Shaidz said:
"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," you mean to say "Every Xbox One owner WILL HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection,". What ever happened to the good old days when you brought something, it was yours, forever, to use when you want, how you want. GAMES /= SERVICE o_O"
Steam happened. They started the trend of stopping used games and turning them into a service instead.
Pretty sure retail started abandoning used PC games well before Steam caught on. I mean it could have stopped used games but the key point is that's not Steam's purpose. With consoles becoming more lucrative PC gaming was being abandoned in retail, Steam came along and filled that void.
 

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Andy Shandy said:
You know what, personally, I can live with this.

I know plenty of people won't be, and they definitely have good reasons for that, but my guess is that most of the problems that people will have with it won't affect me personally.

I know it might sound rather arrogant to say that, but I don't mean it to be, honestly.

Now all I personally need to know is what kind of games are coming out for it.
I have the same sentiments. None of these affect me, as I have a somewhat reliable internet connection and don't ever trade in games, so I can't personally complain. I am already dabbling in PC gaming and Steam, so its not like I am not used not trading in games or being online at all times. If these do adversely you, then all power to you for not buying it. But I am still holding off on buying it just to make sure that I don't fall into a similar situation as I did with the RRoD.
 

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Always online is not about internet connection anyway. its about control. connection is not a problem to me. heck my pc is on at home runing something on the internet even now. but i wont buy it out of principle of not giving them control over my entertainment.

"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection,"
Sure, because everyone without one simply wont buy it. DUH.

First, some good news: "Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One." Assuming there are no catches, that's pretty generous. It would be great to share games with family members without having to physically visit them.
i can already see groups of "lets make eachother friends and buy every 10th game each".....

Finally, you can breathe easy knowing that the new Kinect will not be spying on you, as long as you don't want it to. Privacy options control what your Kinect sees and hears, and if you don't want it on, just say "Xbox off."
i dont understand. you can turn off the whole console. you can unplug it anyway. but can you keep kinect off while gaming? that was the question to begin with. and they didnt answer it at all.

Skullmaker90 said:
'Major Nelson writes, and because of this, "developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing." ' Because PC MMORPG's haven't already done that. *Cough* Eve Online *Cough*
Eve online is a PC game. Dust514 woudl fit better as its same studios console MMORPG game. it shares the world with EVE and is persistent. Its not on Xbox though. you know why? MS said no to free updates. so CCP said no to MS.


panosbouk said:
And so the actual price of the Xbox will not be what they will announce You'll have to add the extra 50-60$ to have xbox live. Cause otherwise the system will not play any games.

If Live becomes free then that's another thing.
no, you ont get it, the machine will act like a ATM, except you will have to put money in regularry to work. and it sends the money to MS via teh internetz.

timboo_drow said:
"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," What, can this fucker see into the future now? There are no Xbox One owners the thing isn't for sale yet. I guess he's merely stating what is logically true that every person boneheaded enough to buy this anti-consumer piece of crap will HAVE to have broadband connection, it's still a strange thing to say.
hes not technically wrong though. the only people that have Xbone now is MS, and they do have broadband connection. also noone without one will buy it anyway, so he will be correct in the future as well.

Honestly, why are people saying that they can live with this? You shouldn't have to to "live with" or "deal with" something you don't approve of in a LUXURY item. If the free-market system truly works what you should do is NOT give money to the company that demands YOU serve THEM and instead give your money to the company that understands that they have no business asking for your money unless they are going to provide you with the product you want. Whether that be Sony, Nintendo, Steam, GoG.com doesn't matter.
Your not entirely correct. for example if you go on vacation, and you have to use a bus ride to get there. the bus is smelly, hot and the ride is bumpy. but you "live with it" because you will get the vacation. the same logic is applied there. the people want the benefit of xbone and thus are willing to get though the ride to get to that benefit. whiel the sentiment to "not buy if you dont like" is good in theory, in practice it rarely works. especially when the companies are still going to blame it on everything but whats at fault as they shown capable of doing very easily.
 

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Okay, just so I'm aware then, can someone explain to me please (as I probably missed this part), what happens if my Xbox One (that I won't be buying any time soon) is plugged in to the ethernet cable in my house, and I go away on holiday for two weeks (so it's not switched on), and come back without having played any games because I've been out of the country? Would I be penalised for that, or would it count as having 'reconnected' and I'd be good to go again? Because that's my chief concern here, personally speaking (though in addition, I also appreciate that as Cracked have pointed out several times, even in the USA there doesn't exist such a thing as an always online broadband connection for almost anyone).

In addition, I can play my PS1 games that I bought 15 years ago today if I want to, on my PS2, provided the dsics aren't scratched to hell by now. Can Microsoft guarantee I'll be able to play Halo 5 in ten years time after they release the Xbox Two or whatever, or will they have shut down all the servers by then? Huh?
 

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Guess I'm getting a PS4, then. I like being able to play games when my internet cuts out (which, you know, happens to most of us from time to time). So long, microsoft!
 

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It seems Microsoft can't throw us a bone afterall.

Bye bye, Xbox1, I hope you burn in hell.
 

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DrunkOnEstus said:
What could possibly be the advantage to having all this crazy red tape and rules just to loan your buddy a game? And saying "you can turn the system off" doesn't address any privacy concerns about the Xbox when it's on. I don't want this thing. Everything they say just drives me farther and father away. Make Dark Souls 2 an X1 exclusive and I'll cry myself to sleep but I'm still not dealing with this shit.
It's because they want to own their customers' souls ;)
 

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Think about THIS when deciding which console to get...

In 10 years, your ENTIRE Xbox One library can be permanently disabled because the online servers for the whole system will be turned off. You know how MMOs die when the servers go offline? Imagine that for your WHOLE system and library of games. Or if you get banned or have your accounted hacked. Everything lost, and no means of ever playing any of those games, new or used, ever again.

It's a system that will become a very expensive brick once Microsoft decides you need to buy the next system, so a switch flip later and everything is lost.
 

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
I don't give a shit about massive persistent worlds that evolve when I'm not playing. I can't imagine why I would. How the hell is this a selling point, anyway? "Stuff's happening when you're not around to see it! Radical, huh?"
while you may not be the one to like it, the MMO market is HUGE and sells tons of games.

DVS BSTrD said:
Because there are no such things as blackouts ~_~
Last time a blackout that didnt last more than a few minutes happened here was maybe, i dont know, 10 years ago?

Falsename said:
Preowned games aren't that bad a thing. It's like McDonalds saying 'We're making money, which is good. But we could be making more than this so lets start charging customers who want to take a straw or napkin from now on'.
do you honestly believe they dont do that? :D :D :D

Nazulu said:
(Plus I'm sure those games will come to PC eventually anyway).
red dead redemption? yeah im still waiting.

Revolutionary said:
Well this isn't going to bite them in the ass..how much is an nVidia Titan again?
why comare it with titan? titan is stronger than any of the console coming out and its unfair comparison. a 430 would be closer perhaps.

neppakyo said:
All hail the glorious PC master race.
 

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Yeeeaaahhh, the actual announcement already sealed its fate with me in stone, but this is just ruining it even more. I dunno where they started going wrong when making this thing, but somewhere along the line, someone said "Let's keep fucking it up :3"
 

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zinho73 said:
Andy Shandy said:
You know what, personally, I can live with this.

I know plenty of people won't be, and they definitely have good reasons for that, but my guess is that most of the problems that people will have with it won't affect me personally.

I know it might sound rather arrogant to say that, but I don't mean it to be, honestly.

Now all I personally need to know is what kind of games are coming out for it.
It is not arrogant, it is just the kind of attitude MS is counting on. People that don't care if their right as consumers go backwards because they are not too much inconvenienced.

Or people that will subject to inconvenience if the games are good.

That's fair, I guess, but somewhat sad at the same time.
yes...I really hope the consoles that adopt this die off quickly. I wish it would...damn consumers
 

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While I've only barely kept up with their work (mostly when an article would pop up here) I am of the firm belief that Anonymous has a moral duty too ensure the microsoft servers are down for at least the first month after the release of this abomination unto the very concept of gaming.

In the name of the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix, and the Commander Shepard, the heresy of the Xbox One must be crushed!

Burn the Heretic! Purge the Mutant! Exterminate the microsoft filth!

Give us offline console gaming, or give us PC!
 

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Heh, never mind the customers that might lose connection, I can't wait until a regions local authentication system goes down. "Oh we are sorry we just turned every xbone in the Midwest into a brick, we couldn't have possibly anticipated that big storm would impact our server house. As compensation, here is one month of X-box live at half price."

Either way, the decision has always been easy for me. I love my Gamefly account. No used games = no console for me.
 

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Trivun said:
Okay, just so I'm aware then, can someone explain to me please (as I probably missed this part), what happens if my Xbox One (that I won't be buying any time soon) is plugged in to the ethernet cable in my house, and I go away on holiday for two weeks (so it's not switched on), and come back without having played any games because I've been out of the country? Would I be penalised for that, or would it count as having 'reconnected' and I'd be good to go again? Because that's my chief concern here, personally speaking (though in addition, I also appreciate that as Cracked have pointed out several times, even in the USA there doesn't exist such a thing as an always online broadband connection for almost anyone).
There'll be no penalty. It won't even count as "Disconnected", because it was never on without internet access.

As for "Always On" broadband, I can't speak for the US, but here in the UK I've yet to have any outage that lasted a whole 24 hours.
 

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Sarah LeBoeuf said:
They don't exist. "Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," Major Nelson writes
The fact that some countries struggle to have internet suddenly isn't the case? Well, glad places like Eastern Europe and parts of the Middle East now no longer exist. Thanks for committing financial suicide, I'll be cradling my PS4 I think now.

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9thRequiem said:
As for "Always On" broadband, I can't speak for the US, but here in the UK I've yet to have any outage that lasted a whole 24 hours.
A few times within the last three years I've been without internet for a day or two. Once for a week. I would of been driven absolutely insane without a games console to entertain myself with.
 

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So, MS learned something from Sony's PR. "We'll let the publishers decide" - yeah, nicely played, guys.

But if they add sales, they'll offset everything. Just like Steam. And Valve's also calling it "licensing a game" not buying.
The only difference, if they add sales that is, is that Steam doesn't need to connect with their servers every 24 hours.
 

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Ariyura said:
Shaidz said:
"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," you mean to say "Every Xbox One owner WILL HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection,". What ever happened to the good old days when you brought something, it was yours, forever, to use when you want, how you want. GAMES /= SERVICE o_O"
Don't you know you don't own anything anymore. You just keep renting your life away.

OT: This is really going to affect our service men who don't have constant online connections but rely on consoles as a huge stress relief during down time.
Wow, I hadn't even considered that. That's actually a really horrifying thought, as I know for some of these guys games are not just a form of stress relief, but are even therapy for what they are going through.