True. But I'm saying that it doesn't hold up well today. Take Goldeneye. That fucking sucks now.Altorin said:Nostalgia is a funny thing, but you're looking at it with anti-nostalgia. You're seeing it as derivative of games that came after it. Ocarina took the zelda model and gave it a scale that was unseen prior to ocarina. I'm not even a raving Ocarina fanboy and I can tell you that. I was there when it first came out, it was a pretty huge thing. It may not stand up to today's standards, but it still ages better then almost any other N64 game.Onyx Oblivion said:100% Cereal.Brotherofwill said:Are you serial or just mildly trolling?Onyx Oblivion said:Ocarina of Time.
Finally played in in December...WTF?! This is THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME?
Wow...umm...Nostalgia is powerful. It's just like every other Zelda.
Come on man, you can work this out. You can do it!
Yep, yep I have to agree here. While it might be average in scale, looks, gameplay and everything else by today's standards it really set the bar back then.Altorin said:Nostalgia is a funny thing, but you're looking at it with anti-nostalgia. You're seeing it as derivative of games that came after it. Ocarina took the zelda model and gave it a scale that was unseen prior to ocarina. I'm not even a raving Ocarina fanboy and I can tell you that. I was there when it first came out, it was a pretty huge thing. It may not stand up to today's standards, but it still ages better then almost any other N64 game.Onyx Oblivion said:100% Cereal.
and I'm saying that ocarina ages better then most N64 games. About the only one I can stand to look at anymore is Mario Cart 64. The first gen 3d graphics were horrible monstrosities. Polygon counts in the double digits. But Ocarina really does stand up better than 99% of games on the N64, and that's the whole system's catalog.Onyx Oblivion said:True. But I'm saying that it doesn't hold up well today. Take Goldeneye. That fucking sucks now.Altorin said:Nostalgia is a funny thing, but you're looking at it with anti-nostalgia. You're seeing it as derivative of games that came after it. Ocarina took the zelda model and gave it a scale that was unseen prior to ocarina. I'm not even a raving Ocarina fanboy and I can tell you that. I was there when it first came out, it was a pretty huge thing. It may not stand up to today's standards, but it still ages better then almost any other N64 game.Onyx Oblivion said:100% Cereal.Brotherofwill said:Are you serial or just mildly trolling?Onyx Oblivion said:Ocarina of Time.
Finally played in in December...WTF?! This is THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME?
Wow...umm...Nostalgia is powerful. It's just like every other Zelda.
Come on man, you can work this out. You can do it!
Oh, nobody said it was the greatest RPG of all time (except Peter Molyneux, but come on.)biodrew said:the original Fable
greatest RPG of all time my ass.
he didn't say it WAS the best RPG of all times... he said it was going to be... he said so before it was finished. He set out to make the gold standard in western RPGs, and failed pretty spectacularly.. but his failure would be redoubled with Fable 2, when he made similar claims again, about how he was going to rewrite all that we know about RPGs..Enigmers said:Oh, nobody said it was the greatest RPG of all time (except Peter Molyneux, but come on.)biodrew said:the original Fable
greatest RPG of all time my ass.
Eh...I still can't see why it gets the praise it does. Even not comparing it to the later titles, its still underwhelming.Altorin said:and I'm saying that ocarina ages better then most N64 games. About the only one I can stand to look at anymore is Mario Cart 64. The first gen 3d graphics were horrible monstrosities. Polygon counts in the double digits. But Ocarina really does stand up better than 99% of games on the N64, and that's the whole system's catalog.Onyx Oblivion said:True. But I'm saying that it doesn't hold up well today. Take Goldeneye. That fucking sucks now.Altorin said:Nostalgia is a funny thing, but you're looking at it with anti-nostalgia. You're seeing it as derivative of games that came after it. Ocarina took the zelda model and gave it a scale that was unseen prior to ocarina. I'm not even a raving Ocarina fanboy and I can tell you that. I was there when it first came out, it was a pretty huge thing. It may not stand up to today's standards, but it still ages better then almost any other N64 game.Onyx Oblivion said:100% Cereal.Brotherofwill said:Are you serial or just mildly trolling?Onyx Oblivion said:Ocarina of Time.
Finally played in in December...WTF?! This is THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME?
Wow...umm...Nostalgia is powerful. It's just like every other Zelda.
Come on man, you can work this out. You can do it!
and despite what MOST people will say, graphics make a huge impact on a game, at least its first impressions. If it hurts you to watch a game being played, you're not going to enjoy playing it. And it's not "shallow" to think that way. It's just how human minds work.
Daikatana was only really overhyped by its creator... I don't think any gamers were really very interested in it.. none that I knew or heard about, although the internet was fairly new at the time, at least to me and my generation.. might have been some consumer hype elsewhere.. we just knew that John Romero had gone off his rocker.. we knew the game would suck just from looking at it... It came out AFTER Quake 3... it's pretty telling how much it was going to fail, just from looking at little screenshots we knew it was horribleEhra said:We're on to page two and still no mention of Daikatana? For shame......
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you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm not daft enough to even try and change it, all I can really say is, you weren't there. look at some of the games that came out around the time and after ocarina of time, before the gamecube was even announced... did you play through the whole Ocarina of Time?Onyx Oblivion said:Eh...I still can't see why it gets the praise it does. Even not comparing it to the later titles, its still underwhelming.
True. When I think "over-hyped" I think press coverage and how much the developers are trying to pass it off as the greatest thing we will ever know. I don't typically pay attention enough to notice much fan hype.Altorin said:Daikatana was only really overhyped by its creator... I don't think any gamers were really very interested in it.. none that I knew or heard about, although the internet was fairly new at the time, at least to me and my generation.. might have been some consumer hype elsewhere.. we just knew that John Romero had gone off his rocker.. we knew the game would suck just from looking at it... It came out AFTER Quake 3... it's pretty telling how much it was going to fail, just from looking at little screenshots we knew it was horribleEhra said:We're on to page two and still no mention of Daikatana? For shame......
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when I think overhyped, I think how I feel about an upcoming game. I was hyped over Fable and Fable 2, and most recently... Ugh, The Force Unleashed.Ehra said:True. When I think "over-hyped" I think press coverage and how much the developers are trying to pass it off as the greatest thing we will ever know. I don't typically pay attention enough to notice much fan hype.Altorin said:Daikatana was only really overhyped by its creator... I don't think any gamers were really very interested in it.. none that I knew or heard about, although the internet was fairly new at the time, at least to me and my generation.. might have been some consumer hype elsewhere.. we just knew that John Romero had gone off his rocker.. we knew the game would suck just from looking at it... It came out AFTER Quake 3... it's pretty telling how much it was going to fail, just from looking at little screenshots we knew it was horribleEhra said:We're on to page two and still no mention of Daikatana? For shame......
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God dammit this, those 2005 videos...WHY MAXIS!?Mr. Shak said:SPORE. Probably the biggest letdown since Y2K.
This, times 10000000000.Double A said:Empire: Total War. Biggest disappointment I've ever had, gaming-wise.
you made me think of The Movies loool XDCrayzor said:Anything from Lionhead? And also MW2. I enjoy playing it, but the way it was hyped you would have thought it was the Second Coming.
at least you won't deny it's a great FuN game ?biodrew said:the original Fable
greatest RPG of all time my ass.
i think you've won this whole Thread Ideology...Mr. Shak said:SPORE. Probably the biggest letdown since Y2K.
I'll be honest.Mechanix said:This, times 10000000000.Double A said:Empire: Total War. Biggest disappointment I've ever had, gaming-wise.