...dammit, website ate my post. In short - Dudes a dumbass for making a shitty joke while buddy-buddy with Disney, took the consequences of that right to the face, let's not belabor the point and just call him a dumbass and move on.
PewDiePie Addresses Recent Media Coverage Amidst Controversy
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Personally I thought the joke was hilarious when I first watched it, two men in leaves showing a paper with anti Semitism while saying "subscribe to keemstar" was to absurd not to crack me up.
Why is everyone blowing this way out of proportion, and saying he deserves the backlash, it's a joke people. wtf man.
Why is everyone blowing this way out of proportion, and saying he deserves the backlash, it's a joke people. wtf man.
Because they already hate the man just by face value. The ones that will dance and celebrate the downfall of a another man Without context, the ones that will read fake news and actually believe it.Drejer43 said:
they don't care if PDP does a lot of charities, they just want to see him gone.
and you just proved you haven't actually watched the video in question. the joke wasn't about killing jews it was about what bizzare things people are willing to do for 5 dollars. the video in which he's dressed as a soldier and smiling at a Hitler speech? that was literal about how the press likes taking his things out of context to prove an agenda. and whats weird about being upset that most major news outlets start calling you a anti-semite? if i made a stupid joke and the news started calling me a nazi i would probably get upset as well.Vigormortis said:
So to recap: strangely rich manchild whines about how everyone is being mean to him and cries about how people are offended. Welcome to taking responsibility for your actions. You knew what you were doing and now you're suffering the consequences. Though considering Mr. Pie is getting defensive instead of introspective, it's clear it's going to be awhile before he grows up
This. I'm surprised that Felix is surprised- if you sign a contract with the most white-bread, family-friendly company on the planet, then you should expect that they'll take umbrage with anything you do that could smear that reputation, even by proxy.Makabriel said:
Except in the video he openly accepts why he lost the endorsements. He sees the chain of actions, and doesn't begrudge that Disney and YouTube did what was best for them in the moment.Vigormortis said:
He gets annoyed at the poorly researched articles which create a picture of him which is untrue.
And for people like Saelune, he also straight up owns that he's a not very funny comedian, who made some jokes which sucked. He's sorry for how things have gone down.
I find it fascinating how many people are ready to drive the knife in because he's super successful and they don't like his content, or think he deserves it. Extra great in an issue which comes down to 'people didn't take time to read/watch what they're talking about, and threw together lazy knee jerk opinions', given how much that's happening here.
Yes, he's got a very polarising style, and his content is aimed at a juvenile audience. Yes, he's super rich and successful based on very little. Get over it, internet. Just don't watch him, and live life, like the rest of us.
So how about if the facts are that terrible... just report them? Not lie, not falsify, not pull baseless accusations. Just report truth and let the people be the judge of it all.Saelune said:
Can't really people from USA see that most of the 'opposition' to Trump smearing or now PDP smearing starts with: 'I think Trump is an idiot or I never really enjoyed PewDiePie's content because it is stupid
BUT
the are being wrongly abused here'.
Reporting facts would solve that asap. Trump wouldn't be a demon from hell that will destroy all - he'd be just dumb ass billionaire and lousy candidate for presidency. PDP wouldn't be an anti-semite and secret neo-nazi, he'd be just tastless comedian, profiting of internet meme dumbness gaolre.
That itself is dicrediting enough to these 2 guys for normal, intelligent people to dislike them and not appreciate what they have to offer. Sure, it isn't 'sensational' or 'outrageous' and it will not build a conflict and crisis that will need to be reported about for next couple of months or... years. However at least it will be, you know - REAL & TRUE - although sadly not as profitable.
Those news outlets produce gossip news as well, because news outlets aren't monolithic entities governed by a supreme leader. This kind of yellow journalism has been around since the 19th century. It's a staple, and according to many within and outside journalism a blemish, of modern journalism. The field of journalism has always struggled with itself. [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Puck112188c.jpg]Katherine Kerensky said:
And yes, I could damn well use a Snickers. Holy shit I need some energy.
Because it seems partially true?Quellist said:
The old media sometimes seems more concerned with reporting stuff fast then with investigating its credibility first.
They seem more interested in outcry because I suspect it simply pays better.
Remember some time ago they reported Gorsuch created an actual "Fascism Forever Club"?
Example here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-supreme-court-justice-nominee-neil-gorsuch-fascism-forever-club-studen-group-found-a7559676.html
And here a fact check: http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/neil-gorsuch-didnt-start-fascism-club/
What the old media did was report on an allegation instead of investigating it then dismissing it because it has no basis in reality.
But no. Bashing Trump and his cabinet is in, it creates outcry and creates clicks. And there is always the excuse "we said allegedly". So out the news went without any check whatsoever...
Further back there was news about a hate crime. A church of a black community was set on fire.
The media was quick to point fingers at the right wing as "vote trump" was written on the church: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/a-black-church-burned-in-the-name-of-trump/506246/
Turns out it wasn't a hate crime: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/22/about-that-vote-trump-church-burning/
Here they simply jumped the shark drawing their own conclusion before the investigation is concluded.
In Germany "Fake News" is reported mostly as in issue in social media. Fake news in Germany is someone saying on Facebook that his cousin was raped or whatever. Basically a "report" by a non-journalist in social media without any evidence backing it up aimed to create outrage and a report by an actual news network who does not fact check first.
This week for example German media reported an a "Fake News" attack on the Bundeswehr mission in Lithuania: http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/vermischtes/fake-news-kampagne-gegen-bundeswehr-100.html
Unknown people tried to stir up negative news by reporting a rape case by a German soldier. However it was fake and did not catch on.
Way before the US had "Fake News" we had something called "L?genpresse" (literal translation: "lying press")
It was coined by the AFD, a right wing party. It aimed at news networks wilfully ignoring negative news that would go against their left ideology. For example: Not reporting on rapes done by refugees or omitting the ethnic background of offenders. Stuff like this.
Since then the mostly left leaning media coined "L?genpresse" as unbiased libel and right wing propaganda that warrants no reflection on their parts whatsoever.
Yet stuff like that actually happens (see examples above). Its bad journalism. They report without fact check or they let their ideology influence their reports so heavily making it mostly opinion pieces yet they want to sell it as facts.
This is why I actually hate the news on The Escapist.
It's not only news on The Escapist but a lot of opinion as well. The Escapist does not report in a neutral matter.
If I want gaming news I go to www.gamefront.de
All related to gaming, everything without opinions unless quoted, sources linked if online and does not select by popularity.
Wait... where was I going with this?
If I want to watch a Swede on Youtube, Pewdie, I'll go watch Robbaz's videos. I don't care what you do because I don't care about your videos. I had no respect for you to lose to begin with.
OK. We have now listed exactly what PewDiePie said and in which context. Now, can we have a list of what exactly each piece of media said? Are all of them really accusing him of being an anti-semite? How many are actually asking if it's a good idea to depict antisemitism on the videos from the most popular Youtuber among kids? I think it's important to do that.
Good job apologizing to the SJW thought police, man! The same scummy people who control the media today and hear just one side of the story as if the SJW's opinions are the only one that exists, a unanimity. The same people who can stand anyone think differently than them and promote witch hunts to lynch these filthy people who dares to disagree with them.
Now you are in their hands.
Now you are in their hands.
First, thank you for finding this. I appreciate it.gigastar said:Heres a list of the responses to PDP's response. Call me crazy but i dont think they care much about depictions of Nazis and anti-semitism as much as they do about the fact that he called the media out on thier bullshit.CaitSeith said:
Second, I was searching the ones that accused him of being a Nazi (before Disney cut ties with him). Specially the WSJ article (I can't find it through Google and I'm not going to pay a subscription on their side just for it). I consider that the "article zero" is important in the discussion.
Third, I don't call you crazy; but that was most of the content in PewDiePie's answer.
Forth, The Sun's headline... hilarious for the wrong reasons.