Ah then. So it's safe to assume you do this for all groups, and not just feminism?Keoul said:I'm pointing out that the group isn't just extremists, one wants equality for all women and one just wants women all on top. I'm making sure my understanding of feminists are made clear so if I'm actually wrong someone can correct me or something.Zachary Amaranth said:snip
Bro did you read the damn definition of the word? For once i agree with movie bob, you cant just shut your eyes and pretend that the last 1000 years of history never happened. Its Feminist not egalitarian because of the huge imbalance that has been the norm thought out so much of history.MammothBlade said:No, I can't rightly say that I'm "feminist" because I'm an egalitarian. Feminism implies favouring female rights - and when men and women are completely equal legally, such a term could be used to the detriment of males. Egalitarianism should champion the rights of neither sex over the other, and grant no special privileges or recompense for past wrongs. Only the present and future matter.
Where in the hell did this come from?Moth_Monk said:So you have nothing to say regarding the stoning to death of women in some countries or the mutilation of women's genitals in some other countries then?Durgiun said:I do not identify as a feminist. Mainly because there are so many branches of it and in my mind feminism is really just a bunch of up-tight prudes trying to kill everyone's fun. And I don't mean ''stopping men from pinching women's asses'', I mean ''trying to stop me from watching porn''. I could go on a diatribe that would rival a George R. R. Martin novel in length, but I will show mercy (and wisdom) and spare you all from that potential flame war.
Again, she has (scarily) been proven either real or insanely dedicated to the cause. Check my post on it from a couple pages back.Doitpow said:You kids who don't recognise satire are so adorableDarkmantle said:wow. My mind is actually blown. That is impressive in it's ignorance and pure hate.Calibanbutcher said:@moopig66: You forgot the most important part for any story Michael Bay is involved in: Huuge Explosions.
ON topic:
I shall just leave this here:
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.de/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html
maybe it's written by the same nice lady father_time linked to.
the one that the only mercy she can give men is to kill them quickly :/
Yes I DID read it. I support peoples' rights, not womens' rights or mens' rights in particular. If society is to progress to a truly equal state this needs to stop being about "feminism", but plain gender egalitarianism. Otherwise it threatens to become about affirmative action and quotas and collective male guilt. History should be accepted and learnt from yet not used as a bargaining chip.Lee Quitt said:Bro did you read the damn definition of the word? For once i agree with movie bob, you cant just shut your eyes and pretend that the last 1000 years of history never happened. Its Feminist not egalitarian because of the huge imbalance that has been the norm thought out so much of history.MammothBlade said:No, I can't rightly say that I'm "feminist" because I'm an egalitarian. Feminism implies favouring female rights - and when men and women are completely equal legally, such a term could be used to the detriment of males. Egalitarianism should champion the rights of neither sex over the other, and grant no special privileges or recompense for past wrongs. Only the present and future matter.
Oppression is not decided upon by amount. That is silly.willsham45 said:Yes and No, A lot of it is environment but it is in our genetics that men protect women and women self preserve themselves. A woman who could get a man to do the hunting was the one who had the most viable babies. That is why it was/ is always women and children first men are seen as the disposable ones.Bocaj2000 said:One word: culture. It teaches women that dainty is desirable and it teaches men that being a badass is awesome. This isn't genetic.willsham45 said:Men and Women are different! We think different, we act different, We are different. So you cannot measure set facts and really use them as evidence for women being out done in every way by men.
Example Pay, More men take the dangerous, undesirable work and generally favour connivance over comforts. Women the opposite generally going for comfort, easy commute, benefits etc. over money. And guess what because of that men get paid more on average. Of cause this is very generalised and of cause you will give cross overs, but for the Moriarty this is the case.
Men get shat on when it comes to devour and child custody.
And Women generally get less jail time than men for the same crimes.
So all in all I think the equal rights thing is done and does not need to go further, Well for the most part I feel it probably just needs to be balanced a bit to make it easier for the lesser downfalls on both sides.
Only now things are less hostile. There are a lot more viable babies thinks to health, equality has drought men and women on to the same plane for better or worce. So now it seems to me while yes women should be able to vote also have to sigh up to any drafts for war if any come up.
What I do not get is if women are so oppressed why do they make up the largest consumer base?
And if women are paid so much less because of gender why do places not just employ women it makes sense they are paid less why pay more for a man?
Oh, no, but it is about hating any society including men. Essentially it holds that men having any power in society will inevitably lead to oppression. This implies a hatred or at least bias towards men as it usually does not have any problem with a primarily matriarchal society nor does it acknowledge that a man could ever do anything beneficial whatsoever, essentially characterizing them as mindless brutes who will always abuse their power, which is, of course, sexist and blatantly false.peruvianskys said:Nasrin said:Radical vs mainstream feminism, yes.Okay, for the last time, radical feminism refers to a school of feminist thought that places responsibility for the oppression of women at the feet of a patriarchal social dynamic expressed in intra- and interpersonal interaction.Jonluw said:And as is the problem with any movement, the radicals are the ones most people think of when they hear the name of the group.
And thus arises the whole 'femnazi' problematic in the public conscious.
It has nothing to do with hating men.