moopig66 said:
I apologize, i was put in RAGE MODE, upon reading some of my fellow escapist's comments.
I do not accept your apology. This post of your here shows that you remain to have not the slightest fucking clue. Your IGNORANCE sent you into DERP MODE, nothing else.
As someone who knows what its like, and i know im bringing that up a lot now but... i feel it adds some weight to the conversation or rather my opinion, this specific subject understandably can hit close to home. It does disturb me however to see people basically stating their disapproval for women equality. Having an opinion is one thing, but prejudice disguised as "asking questions" is not a valid opinion to hold as it is not an opinion but rather a prejudice.
First of all, fuck you if you think you are somehow the only one here who knows discrimination because you are gay, seriously, fuck you if that is what you honestly think.
Secondly, none of the people that are talking to you have said that they disagree with equality, but that they disagree with the notion that feminism is about "equality" and therefore do not identify as feminists.
I want to see us all living in a nice happy world where we can all get along, but to do so we must first stamp out the prejudice that plagues us (yes i know... colorful words...)
Good idea, start with your own, you've been one of, if not the most prejudice person here.
Even on the internet, all opinions are not valid, an opinion that i know many may disagree with. Racism is not a valid opinion as it is not based on fact but rather personal misunderstandings and inbred prejudice.
All opinions are valid, that's why they are opinions and not facts.
Likewise, sexism toward women is not a valid opinion to express anywhere, education is a must.
Sexism is wrong. Period. Good idea with the education, start with yourself, you need it more then anyone else here.
Now obviously im not saying sexists should be shot, but they should be given a nice lecture, however i also know that, in the words of Spock, one cannot be brought to a rational conclusion if they have not reached their own conclusion based on logic.
Which is why I am writing this, you need a nice stern talking to.
We keep pretending its ok to say redirection things about any subject like this. And underneath every (...most... but "every" sounds more exciting) opposing sentiment is a subtext of pure sexism.
Bullshit. This has nothing to do with misdirection, all it has to do with is people saying that they disagree with the notion that Feminism is pro equal rights and you then going on a tirade of brain farts.
The definition of sexism is, via Wikipedia (long quote): "Feminism is a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] In addition, feminism seeks to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist is "an advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women." I hope that each and every person out there agrees with these sentiments, that women out to be equal and that they deserve an appropriately proportionate role in our society.
That is not the definition of sexism, but of feminism. You were probably too busy being irrational to notice that I amoung others have been discussing the accuracy of said definition when supposed feminists like yourself clearly do not have the slightest clue what equality is.
And this "men are victimized too!!!" attitude that just translates to a MEE TOO attitude is just laced with sexism.
It is not sexist to point out that equality cannot be achieved by focusing on the issues of a group that is so equal that they now must throw all their frustration at petty shit like their portrayal in fucking video games, this applies to the majority of people here. If that's all the Feminists can come up with around here, I ask them to kindly step down as I have to deal with far more pressing issues. You know, like that fact that the vast majority of all violence has men as the victims? Or how about that a woman cannot rape a man because the legal definition makes it impossible. Or I could bring up how the vast majority of deaths on the job happen to men. Or how it is common place for a mother to gain custody of a child, or this or that. The list goes one for quite some time.
We as men are of a privileged we cant even begin to understand, there are so many more doors open to us from birth, specifically if you happen to be white and straight. And we forget that fact and fall into a defensive mode whenever confronted with this knowledge, and for what? So we can stay special? Is it because you dont feel privileged, because you work for a living? Im sure you do, im sure you work very hard and im sure you diverse what you get, but not everyone is presented in life with the same opportunities that lead to your success.
You can take that propaganda and shove it right up where the sun doesn't shine. Many a moron has tried to tell me that I'm totally privileged, yet not a single one has yet managed to actually explain how I am privileged and women totally have no privileges specific to their gender.
There is nothing inherently wrong with the Y chromosome, and no feminist thinks that there is,
Bullshit.
no matter what some Conservative blogger pushes. And ya there have been a few "feminists" who have said that all men are evil. but they arnt feminists, their wrong. Feminism is about equality for all, a sentiment that i hope everyone can get behind.
No true Scottsman.
