Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

[USSR]

Oh.

Well fuck you.

And your game.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

I don't personally have an issue with this, because I can see why they do it. But personally, I still think that if they're gonna do this kind of thing to games, they should do it to the multiplayer, rather than the main part of the game that you wanted to buy it for in the first place.

 

[MordinSolus]

And this is going to stop modders from unlocking the content how?

You know, it'll stop them...from uh...getting underground with it's...firewall?

 

[duchaked]

well...I guess I wasn't interested anyway :/

 

[ImprovizoR]

Next time I want to buy a used Mercedes, I'll call official Mercedes dealership to ask them if they're gonna cut my brakes if I don't give them a piece of that action.

This is fuckin' stupid. Used games market should be no different than any other market for used stuff. This kind of behavior can only increase piracy. There should be a law against this.

A giant flaw in your analogy is that if you're going to an official Mercadies Dealer to buy a used car then you're still giving money to Mercadies, if you're buying a used id game from gamestop you're not giving anything to id. So they make no money for their hard work, instead it's gamestop getting it for doing little more than storing it.

There's a difference between breaks, and what game developers typically do. Brakes are needed for a function. You not having access to certain multiplayer maps,or parts of single player does not effect the overall experience. You can still play the game, however if you want to play the maps the company simply wants something for their hard work.

The analogy stands. I didn't say that I'd buy the car from official Mercedes dealership. I said that I'll call the official dealership to ask about cutting the brakes on my used car. As for brakes being necessary for car to function, again, the analogy stands. It's not important which part of the car it is, it's important that they're cutting something they shouldn't. You're going into details instead of looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Man, I don't usually complain about the titles of these threads but... really Escapist? Its not cutting off single player its cutting off a single area. That's hardly the same thing.

It sounds as if the sewer level (lol, sewer level is always the worst) is going to just be cut off. That sounds similar to how some titles offer the deluxe package with a bonus area but instead now its include in the new standards package. That sounds similar to pre-order goodies or even other in the box codes. This actually doesn't seem too far removed from other schemes like this. Of course that's not going to keep people from blowing it out of proportion.

 

[moosek]

This isn't solving the problem. It's part of the problem.

What's the problem (I guess you're asking), games are $60. $60 can buy a lot of other stuff.

 

[Vault101]

so If I DO get it new copy..will I still have to download anything? I'm rather confused

 

[Not-here-anymore]

Umm... they are actually "locking" parts of the single player for used copies? Thats new... not to good, but new.

It's exactly the same as any other day one DLC scheme, but seemingly without the option to purchase it separately if you do buy it second hand. At least with other systems the publisher/developer can get some money from used sales if they choose to buy into the day one stuff.

Eh, it seems every anti-piracy measure or DLC announcement nowadays results in a few people complaining and threatening to cancel their pre-orders, and the rest just going 'meh'

Also, what the hell escapist?

Used Rage Has No Single-Player

Clearly not true, and you've stated as much in the article. What's with the sensationalist journalism?

 

[Inkidu]

And this is going to stop modders from unlocking the content how?

You know, it'll stop them...from uh...getting underground with it's...firewall?

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

And wow Bethesda, next you'll be pulling this tactic on Skyrim and locking out Dragons.

Why do I think this is all id. Bethesda's usually pretty damned cool about stuff like this. Like the rewards for buying a new New Vegas were just some clothes or a gun. Heck, Oblivion for PC had no DRM when I bought it. Yeah, I think id is just using Bethesda to publish the game.

That said: Shut up, shut up, shut up! We don't want to give them any ideas!

 

[Piecewise]

If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.

Oh fuck that. I bought it, it's my property, if I want to sell it to a game store and they want to sell it used to someone else, thats their fucking business. Should I have to pay royalties to authors everytime I buy a book on amazon or they'll tear out half the pages? Should I pay furniture companies for the couch I bought at a yard sale? Why should game developers be different?

 

[Bakuryukun]

but wait...what happens when the game is only available aftermarket a long time from now? This seems shortsighted.

 

[UnmotivatedSlacker]

So lets say I was late to the party and didn't know about it or I just wasn't able to get it new for whatever reason, this is basically a screw you to those types of people.

 

[Savvz]

Pirates still win. No big surprise.

 

[Puzzlenaut]

Wait, can you buy these features at an extra cost later as DLC or are they forever lost to a 2nd hand buyer?

 

[Pierce Graham]

That has got to be one of the STUPIDEST things I've ever heard: Imagine this scenario: People want to buy this game 10 years from now. There are no more new copies. So people will be unable to play the whole game, just because they didn't buy it when it came out?!?!?!?
Bethesda, what's happening to you? Your Elder Scrolls and Fallout games have always been such paragons of gaming, now you pull out this dick move extraordinaire? I don't like where the gaming industry is headed, not one bit....

 

[FalloutJack]

Now, as it happens I am a pre-order for this game, but I have to say that that is a really REALLY shitty thing to do.

And this is going to stop modders from unlocking the content how?

And HE explains why it's pointless too.

 

[Snotnarok]

Next time I want to buy a used Mercedes, I'll call official Mercedes dealership to ask them if they're gonna cut my brakes if I don't give them a piece of that action.

This is fuckin' stupid. Used games market should be no different than any other market for used stuff. This kind of behavior can only increase piracy. There should be a law against this.

A giant flaw in your analogy is that if you're going to an official Mercadies Dealer to buy a used car then you're still giving money to Mercadies, if you're buying a used id game from gamestop you're not giving anything to id. So they make no money for their hard work, instead it's gamestop getting it for doing little more than storing it.

There's a difference between breaks, and what game developers typically do. Brakes are needed for a function. You not having access to certain multiplayer maps,or parts of single player does not effect the overall experience. You can still play the game, however if you want to play the maps the company simply wants something for their hard work.

The analogy stands. I didn't say that I'd buy the car from official Mercedes dealership. I said that I'll call the official dealership to ask about cutting the brakes on my used car. As for brakes being necessary for car to function, again, the analogy stands. It's not important which part of the car it is, it's important that they're cutting something they shouldn't. You're going into details instead of looking at the bigger picture.

Except it doesn't, they're cutting some part of the single player out. Like Mass Effect 2 you didn't get a character and the story connecting it. It's far from a game breaking or game destroying. This is basically the equivalent of getting regular seats vs leather seats.

It doesn't change the overall experience, and it's your choice to buy used and you know you'll get less. You get what you pay for as the saying goes and I'd say this applies.

And again, you're not giving id software a dime with this buy, why would they want to give you more when it cost time and money to make the game and you wont even give them a cent?