Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

[Blind Sight]

If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.

This, I have never understood... How the fuck do used games take away from their profits? They are fucking used, that means they were bought new and then played and traded in. That means these games became part of their profits before they became used games! How is this not just greedy assholes wanting to get paid twice for the same game?

The logic comes from the fact that used games cause retailers to buy less titles from publishers, but the numbers are small enough that it doesn't really 'hurt the developers' (which makes even less sense in terms of the way games are developed) as much as people say. And as I stated in my post, publishers still make money off of microtransactions for used games.

 

[Valkyira]

Oh well, wasn't gonna buy it anyway. 20gb install? Fuck off ID.

 

[teebeeohh]

honestly while i hate DRM i never mind the stuff that is supposed to stop used sales, the only ones who get money of that are retailers. If you don't have the money just wait a month or two till the price of a new game drops. While piracy is dangerous because nobody gets money used games cost you money but you don't support the industry.

 

[Catalyst6]

that sounds... pretty shitty. now i will probably miss this game entirely. meh

edit:

I thought bad things when i read the title, but now I know that its only small parts of the SP taht are being cut for used palyers. In my opinion this is the right way to do DRM.

no, it is not the right way to do DRM, because it is punishing gamers who have still legitimately bought a copy of the game, but could not afford to do so first hand.

It's not id's fault that you can't buy their product. I side with the devs on this, as I always do. They're completely in their right to do whatever they can to make sure that they actually get paid for the products they produce.

 

[jonyboy13]

It's like they're asking people to pirate the game...
Really bad call.

Well fuck you too id.

So guys, what are the chances that RAZOR will have it cracked within the first week?

Hehehehe.

Lol, week? I give the game 3 days top.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

.... What?
Seriously? Cutting the entire single player GAME of the game if you bought it second hand?

No, fuck you id. I'm not buying your game.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

This sounds like something a petty kid at a playground would do.

"Hey, Billy can I play with that kickball?"

"Ten bucks, kid."

"What? But thats the school's kickball!"

"Well maybe you should've brought your own kickball."

"....Dickhead."

"What?! Oh now you don't get the kickball at all."

"What oh come on, man!"

"Fine but we're going to kick the ball back and forth."

"But I just wanted to juggle it around a little."

"WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT BACK AND FORTH!"

".....Heres ten dollars."

"Enjoy your ball."

 

[Lorechaser]

My view: companies have been doing DRM since the beginning. I'll take this over Ubisodt, Origin, or the like. You still get the game. If you want you cannot buy the extea bit. You don't have to spin some damn code wheel each time you play.

Would I rather have none of the above? Sure. But this is way down the scale from a world ending event.


Also, are those if you waxing apoplectic - are we talking the $55 vs $60 used, or are you looking at 2 years out when the game is $30?

 

[Nalgas D. Lemur]

that sounds... pretty shitty. now i will probably miss this game entirely. meh

edit:

I thought bad things when i read the title, but now I know that its only small parts of the SP taht are being cut for used palyers. In my opinion this is the right way to do DRM.

no, it is not the right way to do DRM, because it is punishing gamers who have still legitimately bought a copy of the game, but could not afford to do so first hand.

No kidding. Way to go rewarding the pirates and punishing people who own legitimate copies of the game again, guys. Not that I've been terribly impressed by Mr. Willits lately to begin with after his comments on Diablo 3, but this isn't exactly helping things.

What the heck is going on? Pretty much throughout the entirety of the 90s, id and Blizzard were two of my biggest PC gaming heroes who could do no wrong, but they've both been really screwing things up for a while now. My brain hurts...

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Ooooooh, adding this to the list of games that I make sure to buy used because "Fuck you."

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Well they can go fuck themselves.
They have lost one sale, not much at all, but from what i can see alot of other people won't buy this too now.

Really, this is a massive dick move.

 

[Treblaine]

PC gamers: "wait, how do you buy a used game?"

 

[A Shadows Age]

It's stupid as hell its a used fucking game and normally the cost of used games goes to so they can buy NEW copies. I swear why in the fuck are they punishing the used buyers when they still bought a fucking game.

Actually if you sell your new game the most likely scenario is you will buy a used game with that money. Gamestop gives you "more" money for a new game if you use that money to buy used games, and the clerks are pressured to push used games over new.

And as for used buyers still buying the game so what? The publisher didn't get a dime of that. In my opinion used games are actually worse for the industry than piracy. At least the pirate didn't walk into a store with money in his pocket for the purpose of buying a game. Used sales (gamestop) siphon that money away from the publisher at the point of sale. Gamefly is a little bit better because it is more like a library but still damaging to publishers.

No they didn't "siphon" anything. When it comes down to it what else is there to do with used games than to let them sit and dust over, people who didn't buy the game new are buying games that were bought new so that's just greedy. These used games have already contributed to their profits, their "dimes". Hey and in regards to pirates, they are not creating an entire other "industry" that provides jobs, and a living to people who otherwise wouldn't have jobs or be able to make a living.

Why the hell should a group who is already able to pay for food and a home fuck with people purely out of greed that need the income to support themselves. All of these problems could be solved by having the game "industry" get into the market of used games, which would be the same just that the game "industry" would be skimming off the top of their nice little monopoly... You know what? no. I thought about it and this is bullshit, just greed at the expense of need, nothing more.

 

[DataSnake]

I actually *WAS* planning on buying this (getting a new PC, the latest id Tech would've been a great way to put it through its paces), but guess what? Now I won't. Sorry, id. It's not you, it's...OK, it's you.

Seriously, back in the mid-90s, it looked like id was poised for greatness. Every game was innovative, massive amounts were available free of charge, there was excellent mod support. What went wrong? Oh well, at least we still have Valve...provided they remember at some point that they're a game company and not a haberdashery.

 

[teqrevisited]

Looks like RAGE is living up to its name already.

The last thing you're supposed to do is actually give pirates what some will feel is a legitimate excuse.

 

[Thyunda]

I like how everybody is reading this and then throwing their keyboards on the ground in disgust. How dare a developer expect to make money off their own product?! This is extortion! If I want to exclusively support retailers who make money where developers don't, the developer should go out of their way to cater to me!

Come on. Drop the attitude. I don't see anything wrong with this. At all. At the end of the day, you're losing practically nothing. It's an add-on. Almost a DLC. You want to buy a game at a fraction of the cost, be grateful you're not even losing a fraction of the full game. You're just getting 100%, whereas the new-copy buyers are getting 110%.
You want the extras - bloody pay for them. Stop whining. It's pathetic.

 

[natster43]

Guess I am not buying that and removing my preorder! I already hate this idea more than the Online Pass.

 

[Unhappy Crow]

Huh. I don't have a problem with publishers/developers blocking off multiplayer if purchased used, but half of the single player? Really? That kinda sucks more if you ask me, and I buy most of my games brand new.

 

[TheNaut131]

...wait what? No, id software you're supposed to do it the other way around! I actually buy plenty of games knew or on sales/over time, but this is a pretty crappy move. But truthfully I think most of us can live without it and if you really want RAGE just pay for it. It is their game and they can do what they want with it, so whatever.

You know, I have to be honest here, who the hell is REALLY looking forward to RAGE?

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

that sounds... pretty shitty. now i will probably miss this game entirely. meh

edit:

I thought bad things when i read the title, but now I know that its only small parts of the SP taht are being cut for used palyers. In my opinion this is the right way to do DRM.

no, it is not the right way to do DRM, because it is punishing gamers who have still legitimately bought a copy of the game, but could not afford to do so first hand.

Yes it is
The pre-owned market hurts the developers since they dont see any of the money made from it.

People who complain about this DRM/Code practice obviously dont care about the market as much as they claim.

Bitching about content being locked is like buying half a bottle of pop off someone then bitching that you didnt get the whole thing.
YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Save up the money and get the game new and quit whining

Funny, that's how I read the article too, you get what you pay for. Interestingly enough, I save up for games because I can't afford a lot of them, so this doesn't really bother me and seems fair to me.

I'm wondering if that section is even that important, if it really isn't, then the people that bought the game used they lost nothing. If it is, oh well, deal with it.