UPDATE: Microsoft Announces Left 4 Dead 2

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John Funk

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Guys, it's not a joke. Sometimes you just have to face facts. Valve wants to make money like every other company out there. :p
 

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I don't know why Valve would joke with us like this. I mean, I'm not complaining. It's looking awesome. Here's what I think happened: Source UPDATED. MAJORLY. What better way to test the new engine than to a game with tons of stuff on screen at once? Obviously DLC can't give us a completely new engine (basically a new game), so it's easier on them and those that wouldn't be able to run it by making a new game entirely.

Still, it's quite strange. Valve DOES take forever to make things. Sure, they probably have a lot of programming and concepts done due to the first one, but you think it would take at least 1 more year before they did this.
 

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Go to http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/ , they have an audio interview with a designer and a preview. It explains a lot.
 

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wordsmith said:
Something tastes funny here guys...

1) Why release a sequel this close? They've not even released the SDK yet... Valve are known for putting new (/episodic) content out, so releasing the sequel this close seems off

2) Why was it announced by Microsoft? Valve are notorious for sitting on stuff for "as long as it takes"

3) Talking about "as long as it takes", it's hardly Valve's style to give a release date so far in advance, they've always erred on the side of caution and not given a release date, so they don't miss them.

Having said all this, the both the L4D forums and the Steam forums both have confirming threads... wth Valve?

Seriously, I hope this is an expansion pack, because if it's a totally new game then Valve have made a bum move.
You know what I think? I think that the reason why L4D took as long as it did was because they basically had to develop the engine it was going to run on, and for the sequels, since they had the engine, the massively overwhelming positive response, the sheer amount of effort that the Valve guys put into their games, it was much easier than making the first, and they could just feel free to add everything that was missing in L4D Uno.

That's just my opinion, anyway.
 

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Hmmm...That voice over sounds like the voice actor for Eli Vance but without the "old guy" tone...


I still want to see L4D2 bundled with HL2:EP3...but with a date already out seems like the only thing Valve is going to put out this year.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Guys, it's not a joke. Sometimes you just have to face facts. Valve wants to make money like every other company out there. :p
Well we always knew that. I just never saw them pulling a dick move like this.

Ok, ok, maybe it's a bit soon to be making assumptions yet. Maybe Left 4 Dead 2 will be worth £60-£50. It just feels like Left 4 Dead would have so much wasted protential. We're probably only going to get 1, maybe 2 DLC packs after this if we're lucky, and that feels like such a HUGE waste when you look at what Valve have done for TF2.

But it is Valve right. They say November the 17th. That means November the 17th 2014 if they're quick about it.
 

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Nov 17th, I notice you didn't say 2009, this being a Valve game and all...


I'm actually a little worried about this, mainly because Microsoft announced it and not Mr Newell's crew. Microsoft getting directly involved never bodes well. On the other hand, it's another Valve shooter, awesome.
 

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This has better be a free update, cuz i'm not going to pay ANOTHER 50? for this
 

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Well I like the video.

DAmnit, another game I have to buy this year. But, ... I want Episode 3 :( I love L4D, but I want some damned closure in Half Life 2
 

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harhol said:
I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal about this. Yearly sequels used to be the norm. It's kinda weird in that it's Valve doing something normal for a change, but all these suggestions that it "must be a joke" are frankly ridiculous.
Used to be norm? WHEN? Games took years to develop, because there were less gamers than today.

It's kind of a big deal, since a lot of people have bought the L4D even recently after the free weekend and price cuts, and now after November the game will be another abandoned title, because a sequel came out.

DragunovHUN said:
Abedeus said:
Yes, I am sure that not even 50% of the current player base will buy the new game, and only half of us (at best) will stay.

Also let's not forget that once a sequel comes out, the previous game lands in the "ABANDONED FOREVER" box. You might get a patch now and then. But don't even think about DLC or anything like that.

Besides, that's just a dick move. "We make a game, then instead of making new content for it, we will immediately after 8 months release a sequel, so you either buy it or stay with your crappy old and unsupported game". That's like Blizzard making another 3 WoW expansions month after month. So you have to buy them all or you can't play the "new content" that could've been added with a patch or two.
So, does it ruin the experience if 50 000 people are playing at any given time instead of 100 000? I don't think so.
Look at games like CS 1.6 or even Condition Zero, every Valve game still has plenty of players online even though a sequel or new version came out long ago.
I don't think CSS came out one year after CS 1.6.
 

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blahblahblahmicrosoftareevilwingemoancryepisode3andsuchlike

That's what I'm supposed ot say in response to this, am I right?

Nah, this trailer looks awesome and I love the running out of bullets sequence... Hopefully the new survivors will have the right amount of character. Not that the trailer completely rules out Bill, Francis and friends still being around.
 

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I'm glad I never bought the first L4D, not that I really cared for it when I played a demo. Maybe L4D2 (sounds like a StarWars droid) will be different, but from the trailer and news so far it doesn't look like it will be.

I'll still give L4D2 a shot, but I'll be apprehensive to buy it knowing that L4D3 could come out in half a year. XD
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Nov 17th, I notice you didn't say 2009, this being a Valve game and all...


I'm actually a little worried about this, mainly because Microsoft announced it and not Mr Newell's crew. Microsoft getting directly involved never bodes well. On the other hand, it's another Valve shooter, awesome.
On the official Steam news they say "This Holiday", and later "Left 4 Dead 2 is targeted for release on Xbox 360 and PC on November 17, 2009".
 

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FoxParadox said:
Coming out November 17, 2009

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/47577/Left-4-Dead-2-High-Definition-Trailer-Released
You are joking, is this the Valve we know?
 

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looks fake and rather offensive, whit the heavy accent and the hill billy tank, and the idea of chainsaws although admittedly considered a must in everything zombie related seems rather stupid, whit the endless ammo guns only a n00b would pull out a melee weapon.

judging from what have been leaked and this trailer here it seems the new game will offer nothing more than new levels and new skins that seems unnecessary , imo thats what a downloadable package is for, not enough to make people buy a new game.
 
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Daye.04 said:
quack35 said:
Didn't Left 4 Dead just come out?
Yeah, exactly. What's up with this? I mean .. Seriously. At least they could have hold back the release a couple of months in case they got these ideas ...
And plus, they could have used the resources for Half Life 2 episode 3, which we have been waiting for for how long now? 2 years or so?