Aigaion said:
Never, my parents solved things the only sensible way and talked to my brother and I about it.
I'm frankly amazed that so many people have been hit.
I have always been serious in my belief that if either of my parents or a teacher ever hit me I would hit back, unless I seriously deserved it.
Beatings don't make "authority fearing, well behaved children", they make resentful, hateful people who go and take out that aggression on others.
I'm going to make a couple of assumptions here, mainly that you've never worked in Retail and that you've never met society's little bastards who make up 70% of todays kids. Frankly, if I tried to "sensibly talk" to for instance, my little sister, who wasn't spanked as a child (unlike myself) she would just start screeching and throw a fit. Like most kids would. When the kid is mature enough that grounding them will work, then I completely support it, but until then, the only way the kid will GET IT is if they're spanked.
If you tell a 4, 5 year old not to eat those purple pills, and they try to, then there's a good chance that when you talk to them about it they won't listen. Now you have to ask yourself "do I make this child have some fear towards eating those purple pills, or do I let them pay the hard way when they have to get their STOMACH PUMPED and possibly DIE because I tried to treat them as being more mature than they are."
So let me ask you, when you have to deal with one of those kids, one of society's many children who simply don't listen, how are you going to make sure that they understand? By letting them run around that store? Yelling at them? Tolerating the shit out of it while everyone around you tells you to just spank the kid?
Beatings and Spanking are not the same thing, to quote someone above me (who has also quoted you):
Tselis said:
There is a fine line between a 'beating' and a 'spanking'.
1) Spanking is the enforce disciple and change behavior, it is never used for anything else.
2) Spanking is done with your hand, not the nearest heavy object you can reach.
3) Spanking is done with a cool, level head; never when you are angry or otherwise emotionally agitated.
4) Spanking utilizes a small number of 'swats' to bare skin, transferring kinetic energy to cause a sharp stinging sensation.
5) Spanking is a legitimate form of discipline for children to small to talk too, but still in need of understanding 'The Rules'.
6) Spanking is not a legitimate form of discipline for any child old enough to employ an alternate form of discipline on.
I don't support ridiculous amounts of corporeal punishment, having been spanked (among other things) until I was 13 when my dad moved out, sometimes for ridiculous things, I can completely understand the hatred towards corporeal punishment. That being said though, there is a time and a place, and sometimes spanking the kid will get it through their head a lot easier than any other reason.
Now I'm off to rehearse my lines for the play and go to sleep... Gah this thread kept me up a half-hour later than I had planned...