Totally.Cmwissy said:A few years younger than you guys, but can I join that club?GrizzlerBorno said:Got any room left in that there box? If yes, mind if take a seat?Onyx Oblivion said:I'm 20 years old and haven't been on a date or had my first kiss. I can contribute nothing to this topic but self-pity.
Okay. But since it's your house, you also have to provide the snacks.Ironrose said:I could just hang around and educate?? We're up to three now right?Onyx Oblivion said:Yes. We are stealing your room. And no, you don't get mine in exchange.Ironrose said:So we're moving the virgin club to my room and then kicking me out because I don't belong?Onyx Oblivion said:Much, much better than my little room.Ironrose said:Hmm, maybe my cave's a better movie place. there's a quilt topped queen size bed, a bar fridge, tv, consoles and a large selection of games/dvds.![]()
I can do that as long as you choose the movie we wont watch.Onyx Oblivion said:Okay. But since it's your house, you also have to provide the snacks.Ironrose said:I could just hang around and educate?? We're up to three now right?Onyx Oblivion said:Yes. We are stealing your room. And no, you don't get mine in exchange.Ironrose said:So we're moving the virgin club to my room and then kicking me out because I don't belong?Onyx Oblivion said:Much, much better than my little room.Ironrose said:Hmm, maybe my cave's a better movie place. there's a quilt topped queen size bed, a bar fridge, tv, consoles and a large selection of games/dvds.![]()
We won't watch...Austin Powers 2.Ironrose said:I can do that as long as you choose the movie we wont watch.Onyx Oblivion said:Okay. But since it's your house, you also have to provide the snacks.Ironrose said:I could just hang around and educate?? We're up to three now right?Onyx Oblivion said:Yes. We are stealing your room. And no, you don't get mine in exchange.Ironrose said:So we're moving the virgin club to my room and then kicking me out because I don't belong?Onyx Oblivion said:Much, much better than my little room.Ironrose said:Hmm, maybe my cave's a better movie place. there's a quilt topped queen size bed, a bar fridge, tv, consoles and a large selection of games/dvds.![]()
I'm generally fine with talking with anyone normally its just when its someone I like. For example its difficult for me to go ahead and talk to this girl I like considering she's around her friends a lot.Darkauthor81 said:You'll get over it. I was paralyzing shy in high school. Then, when I went to college, I ended up staying in an apartment in the slums. I was suddenly surrounded by people who wanted to beat the crap out of me and take everything I owned, have owned, or will ever own.Flamezdudes said:Nothing to do about sex but I am incredibly shy and have trouble attempting anything in starting some sort of relationship with somebody because I also worry too much and think about the scenarios of what could happen in things all the time.
Yeah, I really hate myself at the moment.
I had to get over my shyness or, no exaggeration, I would have been killed.
So, I'll pass on the same knowledge a friend passed on to me.
"You care too much."
That's the problem. You're wrapped up so much in what may or may not happen. "What if she doesn't like me? What if she laughs? What if she does like me and I screw it up." When you live in a world of "what if" you're always going to be this way.
Stop caring.
When you can do that it's all down hill. You will have to work on your socialization skills because they are likely stunted from your years of being shy. Mine sure as hell were. But that's solved by making friends with social people which you'll be able to do when you stop caring.
That's the great difference between a social person and a shy person. It's not that he's stronger, or braver, or more capable. A social person just doesn't care what people think of them and thus is free to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
Talk to a girl you've never seen and that you're sure you'll never see again. So what if she likes you, or she hates you, or she even snubs you. You'll never see her again so her opinion doesn't matter a damn thing. That was my first step. After that I took a 180 and slowly became completely obnoxious because suddenly I was liberated of all my fears. I calmed down after a while but wow it was a trip.
Umm wherever it said orgasms don't matter much I wouldn't trust that. Yes a girl will say she had sex even if she didn't orgasm where guys probably wouldn't but it doesn't mean she didn't want to or didn't mind that much. I am unlucky enough to be one of those girls who is very very very rarely able to orgasm during sex and I know it has bothered a few guys I've been with just as much as it does me, if not more so because they feel its their fault. But it is worth putting in the effort for it to happen, certain things happen while a girl is orgasming that can make things feel a LOT better for the guy.Soylent Bacon said:Orgasms. That complex vagina is like a Rubik's Cube. I guess it's a little irrational though, since I've both heard and read that orgasms don't matter so much to women, and even without getting one of those going, it seems my girlfriend gets a feeling so much better than I will ever feel. It also kind of helps me feel better about how I can't figure out her vagina sometimes when she says she can't figure the damn thing out either.
Look unless she's intoxicated most girls won't push themselves past their limit, if she says she can take it she almost certainly can, however if you're still not sure listen carefully to her, if she's actually in bad pain you'll be able to hear it in her voice.Soylent Bacon said:House_Vet brings up a good one too. My girlfriend often wants a lot of...force, to the point when it "hurts so good," and I always feel awful and worried if she ends up sore and bleeding afterward.
Girls aren't stupid, if we're trying to sleep with a guy we aren't going to stomp on his balls because we know that wont exactly get us anywhere, it's the same with saying anything negative about his dick. I have never ever known a girl to be mean and critical about a guys size, I think we know better because we'd hate to think that he was talking about what a weird shape our boobs were.Soylent Bacon said:Don't even get me started on the infamous insecurity about penis size. I'm fine now, but before the first time I got it out, I didn't know what reaction to expect. For the love of God, women in this thread, don't even make a mean joke about your guy's size and shape, at least not when you first see it. On the other hand, unprompted compliments make a huge boost in confidence. Probably the only reason I'm okay with mine now is because I get a certain compliment about it without having to ask something like "What do you think?"
Part of me does understand that but I am just self conscious, on the bright side though, my skin is only scarred because it is really delicate and soft so i guess its a sacrifice.Soylent Bacon said:Oh, and I doubt any guy is going to be bothered by scars and such on your skin. The way I see it, nice skin is nice because of how it normally is. I'm not going to find skin unattractive based on scars or scratches, but onwhether or not it is rough or something when it's not scarred.
Flamezdudes said:Well here's one last bit of advice for you then.Darkauthor81 said:I'm generally fine with talking with anyone normally its just when its someone I like. For example its difficult for me to go ahead and talk to this girl I like considering she's around her friends a lot.Flamezdudes said:snip
I guess I do care a little too much about what others say actually... hmm.
Most relationships don't work. You want them too. But the VAST majority fail miserably and usually immediately. When I get nervous about talking to a cute girl, which I still do some times, I just remember that and it reminds me that this interaction doesn't matter.Well I have one last big of advice for you... two actually. First one is about trying to talk to women.Flamezdudes said:I'm generally fine with talking with anyone normally its just when its someone I like. For example its difficult for me to go ahead and talk to this girl I like considering she's around her friends a lot.Darkauthor81 said:You'll get over it. I was paralyzing shy in high school. Then, when I went to college, I ended up staying in an apartment in the slums. I was suddenly surrounded by people who wanted to beat the crap out of me and take everything I owned, have owned, or will ever own.Flamezdudes said:Nothing to do about sex but I am incredibly shy and have trouble attempting anything in starting some sort of relationship with somebody because I also worry too much and think about the scenarios of what could happen in things all the time.
Yeah, I really hate myself at the moment.
I had to get over my shyness or, no exaggeration, I would have been killed.
So, I'll pass on the same knowledge a friend passed on to me.
"You care too much."
That's the problem. You're wrapped up so much in what may or may not happen. "What if she doesn't like me? What if she laughs? What if she does like me and I screw it up." When you live in a world of "what if" you're always going to be this way.
Stop caring.
When you can do that it's all down hill. You will have to work on your socialization skills because they are likely stunted from your years of being shy. Mine sure as hell were. But that's solved by making friends with social people which you'll be able to do when you stop caring.
That's the great difference between a social person and a shy person. It's not that he's stronger, or braver, or more capable. A social person just doesn't care what people think of them and thus is free to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
Talk to a girl you've never seen and that you're sure you'll never see again. So what if she likes you, or she hates you, or she even snubs you. You'll never see her again so her opinion doesn't matter a damn thing. That was my first step. After that I took a 180 and slowly became completely obnoxious because suddenly I was liberated of all my fears. I calmed down after a while but wow it was a trip.
I guess I do care a little too much about what others say actually... hmm.
The VAST majority of relationship fail miserably and typically immediately. And that's even IF you get into a relationship which you most likely wont. That's just how it is. Most women are very very picky. So the interactions you're so worked up over, don't matter. Since 98% of them are doomed before you even open your mouth. Getting worked up over that 2% is just silly. When I approach a woman I drive out fear by thinking "There's no way in hell she's going to like me. But hey, I've got nothing better to do."
My second piece of advice. When you break free of your social awkwardness you'll probably end up dating everyone who shows an interest. I did. I went through a lot of nightmarish relationships that left me scarred and bitter for a long time. Be choosy, learn to like being alone, don't be afraid of being alone. Because if you jump into everything like I did, your life will become a living hell and you may very well be an emotional mess when you meet someone you could have had something with.
Every relationship you're in leaves its mark on you. So be careful.
Edit: One more thing. Women don't like to break up with you directly. They'd much rather ignore you than face you directly over it. So if she's not making any effort to contact you, it's over. Even if she's really busy, if she was really into you she'd find a few minutes to call you. If she was really into you then she should have found a few minutes.
In short, if there's no communication then it's over regardless of all other circumstances. This was the hardest lesson for me to learn.
Act like Tigger from Winnie the pooh ... You can even sing the song.Ironrose said:I have a rather irrational insecurity about being on top, I just don't feel like I knkow what I'm doing in that position.
Can I come to yours? I don't like Austin powers but LOOOVE Aus (well Tasmania is close to Aus).Ironrose said:Hmm, maybe my cave's a better movie place. there's a quilt topped queen size bed, a bar fridge, tv, consoles and a large selection of games/dvds.