Why bother making 'friends'?

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KaiusCormere

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Mikodite said:
Of anything I've learned in my short stay on this planet its that people are temporary, disposable, and possibly garbage. Knowing this makes it hard for me to want to bond with people knowing that given a few months to a couple of years I will never see or hear from them again. I wish it wasn't this way, but I've learned though pattern recognition that making friends is pointless, to the point where 'friend' becomes a misnomer.

I'm wondering what others think about this (and I know I'm going to get a shit-storm of people who are going to be all 'you socially-misaligned misanthrope' on this.) I admit that I sometimes feel lonely and I do have a few people I hang around with, but I'm not friends with them: I just hang around them. There is no sense of comradely or connection, and I don't think I fit in with them anyways. There will be no hard feelings when it comes that I never see them again. I have formed emotional bonds with people before, and at best I had to feel the heartache of never seeing someone I was close to again, and a worst had this relationship betrayed, so why bother anymore if its just going to end in pain?
Sometimes it ends bad. My best friend through middle school, and high school and me had a falling out 4 years after high school. (I left him sitting in jail when he used his one phone call on me after he was arrested for hitting another friend of mine). But good friends are worth having, and even that friendship had far more good times than bad.
 

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Mikodite said:
Of anything I've learned in my short stay on this planet its that people are temporary, disposable, and possibly garbage. Knowing this makes it hard for me to want to bond with people knowing that given a few months to a couple of years I will never see or hear from them again. I wish it wasn't this way, but I've learned though pattern recognition that making friends is pointless, to the point where 'friend' becomes a misnomer.

I'm wondering what others think about this (and I know I'm going to get a shit-storm of people who are going to be all 'you socially-misaligned misanthrope' on this.) I admit that I sometimes feel lonely and I do have a few people I hang around with, but I'm not friends with them: I just hang around them. There is no sense of comradely or connection, and I don't think I fit in with them anyways. There will be no hard feelings when it comes that I never see them again. I have formed emotional bonds with people before, and at best I had to feel the heartache of never seeing someone I was close to again, and a worst had this relationship betrayed, so why bother anymore if its just going to end in pain?
Fair enough, each to their own, and all that kind of jazz.

That said, speaking as a guy who was raised in an army household and so moved a lot more often than most people (to different countries, no less) I'd say temporary friends are actually a lot more worthwhile that long-term friends. Why, you may ask? You're constantly able to reinvent yourself, give across a whole new personality trait, start off on a different foot, anything you want.

If you're so scared of eventual loss that you won't accept friends then there's nothing really to even bother with. Why buy a game when, in years to come, it'll be scratched and die, or replaced? Why eat, when you'll just be hungry again in about three hours or so? Why go on holiday when it'll end?
Friends and a social-life are pretty necessary for humans. I'm going to go ahead and guess - from your ideas on such a subject - that you are quite young: if this is the case, you probably have friends but refuse the terminology.
 

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Meh, I see friends as overrated, I'm 25 and I haven't had a single friend in about 3-4 years. I wonder sometimes if friends would be "fun" but at the end of the day I manage things on my own and I keep myself entertained. The primary reason I don't bother with people or try to become friends with anyone is because I have a really hard time trusting people, everyone always has some kind of motive or agenda or something they want out of you. That and people are fickle and can hate you at the drop of a hat. Not something I want to deal with. Better to be bored on a Saturday night than getting stabbed in the back, at least in my opinion.
Yes that's the case, everyone always has some sort of motive and is waiting for the chance to smack you over the head with a hammer and rob you blind after you foolishly invited them into your house because you were stupid enough to befriend someone.

Get over yourself man, even dicks have people they're friends with. To you and the OP, if you ACTUALLY have this outlook on life (despite the fact you're both being massive drama queens and drawing attention to the fact that you hate everyone because you're so angsty, being the complete opposite of someone who doesn't like people around him, if you really were like that you wouldn't announce it on a fucking public message board), I can only assume its because you're well... not great to be around as people. That's the impression I get from your posts, faux angsty man-teens trying to be bitter and misanthropic about the world because they fail to realise that they're a complete chore to be around because they're trying to be angsty and aloof all the time.

Seriously I reiterate my point that even twats have friends, you're either Sheldon from Big Bang Theory, soul crushingly boring to be around or incredibly naive to the point where you consistently get sucked in and screwed over by jerks, in which case you should take a look in the mirror, down a bottle of vodka and go get laid.
 

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Anoni Mus said:
How old are you? For reference.
im 18

Troll.jpeg

but i can't help but feel this a Troll or someone silly.

on any case if your being serious

I have only had a small amount of friends at a time bout 3 at the most. but Humans are Social Creatures they need them as much as people need you. if that makes any sense
 

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Take a knife to your neck, seriously whats the point of living we will only get hurt somewhere down the line.

Come on escapists, lets all commit mass suicide, it will be a right laugh.
it would be a laugh if we all died like this

 

sumanoskae

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You know what's really troublesome?, life. It's long, painful, monotonous, pointless... Wouldn't it just be easier to open your veins, not have to deal with all that scary uncertainty anymore.

You'll never be hurt again.

Why bother dragging it all out when it might hurt you, nothing is worth work, nothing is worth pain.


This point of view is reused constantly.

People act like pain is the be-all end-all, like all the other things life, people or love ever did are meaningless because they hurt in the end.

Pain is inevitable. It's part of life and there's nothing unnatural about it.

But despite this, we all know that life is worth the pain.
 
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'You socially aligned misanthrope.'

You've already said it, so let's expand on it.

How old are you first of all. Because when I was 14-18 I was a lot like you, then I grew up, got my head out of my arse and realised that I was part of the problem. It may sound like a stereotype but when you are a teenager you do not think clearly. Unfortunately, you won't realise this until after you get out of it.

People are not like that, especially if you make the effort. I have some friends from high school that I hang on to, another bunch from university, and I'm in the process of making good friends at my job. I have friends from open mic nights which I stopped going to three years ago and we still stay in contact and meet up occasionally. It's about making the effort, and sometimes you are the one who has to make the effort.

Now obviously there's a limit. I know I have problems keeping friends, so I make the concerted effort to contact my friends at least once monthly, just to have a chat. If someone doesn't respond to anything I send for six months (it can be as big as a proper e-mail or as small as a 'how you doing?' text) then I stop contacting them. I keep their information, so if they contact me I'll try and be available, but if I'm making the effort and they aren't, then that's when you cut the contact.

I don't know how long you try and stay in contact with people, but it sounds like once people are out of your direct day to day physical space you stop talking to them. And if that's the case then the problem isn't them my friend, it's you.
 

CarlMin

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Friends are not supposed to be disposable or garbage, so perhaps it isn't friends that you can do without.
 

jimClassic

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You sounds like you're going through that awkward emo teenager phase. You'll grow out of it. Or you'll simply grow old, and become a bitter old frump.
Yes, a lot of people do suck, and some don't. Some friends are with you your whole life, and others won't be.
Just do your best and associate yourself with higher quality friends; people who will not judge you, and accept you for who you are. And try to avoid shallow people, and drama queens; people who will only bring you down.
 

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Mikodite said:
Of anything I've learned in my short stay on this planet its that people are temporary, disposable, and possibly garbage. Knowing this makes it hard for me to want to bond with people knowing that given a few months to a couple of years I will never see or hear from them again. I wish it wasn't this way, but I've learned though pattern recognition that making friends is pointless, to the point where 'friend' becomes a misnomer.

I'm wondering what others think about this (and I know I'm going to get a shit-storm of people who are going to be all 'you socially-misaligned misanthrope' on this.) I admit that I sometimes feel lonely and I do have a few people I hang around with, but I'm not friends with them: I just hang around them. There is no sense of comradely or connection, and I don't think I fit in with them anyways. There will be no hard feelings when it comes that I never see them again. I have formed emotional bonds with people before, and at best I had to feel the heartache of never seeing someone I was close to again, and a worst had this relationship betrayed, so why bother anymore if its just going to end in pain?

Nooooo, don't lose hope like that. If this is really how you feel, and I don't blame you as I kind of understand what you're saying, it just means you haven't met people that you have really connected with yet. That doesn't matter, sure some people are lucky and meet those people in primary school or whatever but that is very rare. Most people take a while to meet people that they can become really close with.

When I moved from primary school to secondary I essentially stopped talking to pretty much everyone from my old school. I have talked to some since, as I live near some and others went to my secondary school etc. But I think it was one of my biggest mistakes in life. I built up such close friendships with a lot of people and then just let it go to waste. You have to make more of an effore to find people that you can really connect with and once you do you have to make sure you stay friends with them no matter what happens.

If you feel like you are drifting away from friends I strongly suggest you try to find something to do together. I know it sounds obvious but just having anything that you do every week or whatever with someone can make your friendship with them so much easier. Sorry for the rant but yehh that pretty much covers it.
 
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Sounds like you just haven't met the right friends yet, OP.

I've got 5 friends that I've known for most of my life, and for the most part, we're like brothers. Hell, I've known one of the guys since kindergarten.

Not all friends will go away, and not all of them turn out to be douchebags. But those things CAN happen, and I recognize that. That's how the world works sometimes. But it's no reason to shun closer human contact.
 

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Also, I'm about 90% sure you're about 15 or 16 right? Yeah you'll grow up eventually.
Those were the days. You know, sometimes you just have to look back at your teenage angst and think, 'Wow... I was a dickhead.'

OP: As many people have said, it's probably because you claim to see people as garbage. If I thought someone saw me as disposable trash I probably wouldn't want to hang out with them for very long either.

Stop being such a Negative Nelly. Step away from the computer and go be a decent person. I know it'll hurt that you'll have to dumb yourself down to talk to the commoners but it might make you a little bit cheerier.
 

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AverageJoe said:
Also, I'm about 90% sure you're about 15 or 16 right? Yeah you'll grow up eventually.
Those were the days. You know, sometimes you just have to look back at your teenage angst and think, 'Wow... I was a dickhead.'
Yup, I think back now on how I was in high school and a bit after, I wasn't so different from the OP. These days I realise firstly what a complete and utter moron I was, even though of course I thought I was one of the most intelligent people around, including thinking I knew everything and had all the world knowledge possible. Secondly I realise how immature and unlikeable I was.

Of course its not too unacceptable to have issues like this when you're too young to know better, but I never really had adults telling me what a twat I was being. The OP is having the luxury of that in this very thread, so lets hope s/he listens and processes that information..

If we are wrong and the OP is actually an adult, well, apologies for the assumption OP, but thats even worse and you've got a pretty lonely life ahead of you.
 

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Mikodite said:
Of anything I've learned in my short stay on this planet its that entertainment is temporary, disposable, and possibly garbage. Knowing this makes it hard for me to want to play video games or watch movies knowing that given a few months to a couple of years the fun will be over, and i will be playing new games to entertain myself. I wish it wasn't this way, but I've learned though pattern recognition that entertaining yourself is pointless, to the point where entertainment becomes a time waste.

I'm wondering what others think about this
Fixed.

As for what i think about this, if the above sarcasm wasn't clear, I'm going to tell you a startling realization:
You are soon going to learn that all good things in this world exists in a temporary state at best.

- Friends are a temporary luxury.
- Sex or masturbation is temporary pleasure.
- Videogames, movies, stand-up comedy etc. is temporary entertainment.
- Food with great taste is temporary pleasure until swallowed.
- Fun is a temporary state until you get bored.
- Feeling energized is a temporary state until you get tired.
- Vacation is temporary relaxation until you go back to work
- Life is a temporary period that is going to end sooner or later at any rate.

That doesn't mean you can't enjoy these things while they last. So i suggest you do.
Well said. Quite similarly, most bad things in this world exist in a temporary state as best. Actually, pretty much everything is temporary and constantly changing.

So writing something off as just bad or just good is quite silly, OP. I order this thread not to become silly again.
 

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For your information you had made this thread three times! You could of inform the mods to locked the other two and before you ask, I already posted my opinion in one of them (I didn't see this one) so I'm not going to repeat myself.
 

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My experience with miserable teenage years- stop being sad, and be awesome instead. True story.

No, I'm not being a smart ass- this actually works. The girl I loved told me one day when I was particularly down in the dumps to forget that I and the world around me WOULD die, and only consider that we COULD die. Live life without regrets, right? Well I said, "Fuck it, good idea" and kissed her on the spot. We've been together three years.

These days it's hard to look on life and feel miserable, because I know that no matter what the end, it's worth living.
 

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Some people just simply don't need other people in their lives very much. I am probably one of those people, I don't really need other people for support - however we are probably the sort of people that other people need, maybe we have IT skills that people often need, that sort of thing.

If you trully don't see the need for friends, then I think maybe you need to find some decent friends. It's your barrier - not as if anyone else is putting that up, I think you need to appreciate that friends can make all the difference in the right situation. If you ever go out drinking or clubbing, you can't really do that alone without looking like a creep or an alcoholic, or something socially miserible like that - going out with friends is a lot of fun, but if you don't like going out you've missed a massive chunk of why friends are important.

Facebook has made us all a bit jaded - it dilutes friendships into tick boxes and occasional comments. Before we would have to actually spend time with people to find out what they are up to, nowadays we check their status and show how much we care by pressing the 'Like' button on anything moderately funny they say.

Does anyone miss the days when you had to go looking for your friends, and when you find them it's such a great feeling. Or your bored and friends will just visit out of the blue.
 

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Even if they are temporary, I'd rather spend 4 years with friends who I'll never see again than spend 4 years bitching about how making friends is worthless.
Just my point of view.
 

Jonluw

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Oh yeah.
That phase. I remember that.

It's important to have social contacts if you want to get anywhere in life. Want a job? Then you need to know people.
Also, friends are good fun to be around in the time you have them, even if you're not going to be seeing them ever again in a couple of years.