Zero Punctuation: Capcom Five
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Yeah, when it came to games, the general order of superior versions went "Dreamcast > GameCube = Xbox > PS2". There were some exceptions to this like the original Ghost Recon and Sonic Adventure, but this is the rule for the most part.Xsjadoblayde said:
It's worse than that. Read his posting history; He's been reacting over-emotionally to criticism of Nintendo for years. He was previously banned for exactly the same behaviour exhibited here, screaming at Yahtzee for "anti-Nintendo bias" too. It's got to the point that I open every single videos comments expecting to see his name and the exact same imbalanced freak out; Every. Single. Video. And every time, he's always, always there. He's even claimed Yahtzee sets his mood for the day. He's blamed him for his outbursts of rage. We're dealing with someone who has, for YEARS, been triggered in entirely unhealthy ways to the point I often wonder if Yahtzee makes his videos with the same knowing smile on his face that LordTerminal/LordTerminus will be there foaming and howling within a day...crimsonshrouds said:
The guy clearly has real life issues. And it's really, really sad and a terrible shame.
The content DLC in Phoenix Wright is absolutely not overpriced. In both PW5 and PW6 there are 5 cases (as there have been in every previous game) and the game costs $30, with an extra full length case available as DLC for $6. Compared to other Capcom DLC offerings it's shockingly priced exactly what it should be.MC1980 said:
....But then there's costume DLC and that garbage is indeed grossly overpriced.
And Capcom treats fans outside Japan like trash as it is. Capcom's refusal to localize Edgeworth Investigations 2 and Great Ace Attourney is nothing short of despicable. They even just announced Great Ace Attourney 2, so I can't wait for the idiotic rationalizations from Capcom about why they aren't localizing that one either.
Funny thing is, the Gamecube is probably one of my favorite consoles.
Also, as much as I love the idea of every single game from now on to be released on PC and thus never have to buy a console again, I never really got the idea that exclusives are a terrible thing.
Also, as much as I love the idea of every single game from now on to be released on PC and thus never have to buy a console again, I never really got the idea that exclusives are a terrible thing.
That's because they're not. They just come off as being an anti-consumer practice because of the way business laws are set up to force companies to compete (At least, in the U.S.).marioandsonic said:
To put it one way, say every single game was and is only developed for PC. That would mean that Microsoft would have a monopoly on the game industry, and that's essential giving them compete control over what happens. As anyone can tell you with any company, that's way too much power despite what they may "intend" to do.
So, then you have Mac and Linux OSs introduced into the mix to prevent Microsoft from having complete control. But, what about those who only use the computer for business and work, and do not think of it as the same system that you'd play games on? Then, you have companies who developed arcade systems designed solely for gaming. But, what about those who do not want to go down to the local pub and constantly waste their pocket change playing Galaga and Wild Gunmen? Then, you develop the home systems for those who want to buy the games one time and one time only. But, what about the fact that the only console in the market is inadequate to produce your games on? Then, that company develops their own system to fit their specific needs. But, what about this new technology on the market that offers a new way to play games? Then, a company comes along and finds a way to integrate that tech into their old or new systems and give them an edge over their competitors. But, what about the ability to use your system for other reasons than as a "gaming only" device? Then, a company finds a way to integrate other features in their system to make it more accessible to other consumers. But, what about the fact that different companies are essentially selling the same system? Then, you go out and buy the system that best suits your needs.
But, what if I only want to buy one system to play everything? Then, your out of luck and you better get over it. You either have one company ruling over everyone, or multiple companies competing for control.
Oh they were, were they. Well, then fuck you Capcom.MC1980 said:
Cases 2 and 4 of the game are pure filler as it is, and pretty blatantly so. But only because case 1 3 and 5 have a connecting storyline. In previous games it was usually case 2 into 4 or 5 and the others completely disconnected.
The next one in the series should be EA buying then destroying studios because they keep doing it and never learn.
"Only reviewed terribly" The hell is that supposed to mean? Everyone hated it, but it was only a conspiracy to put the little man down, maaan?LordTerminal said:
You wot? The notion that everyone should get to play everything so that everyone can have fun and enjoy the games they like rather than being gated is elitist? Do you even know what elitist means? The point of buying a console is and always should be ease of use, not petty arguing over who has the best exclusives.
Now we have the Nintendo NX. A console that's really a sort-of-handheld that Ubisoft are fawning over.
Prediction: Ubisoft will make a few games NX Exclusive, then port them to to the other consoles (and PC) two months later, and Nintendo will go cry in to their Misty full body pillow wondering why all their friends are abandoning them.
Prediction: Ubisoft will make a few games NX Exclusive, then port them to to the other consoles (and PC) two months later, and Nintendo will go cry in to their Misty full body pillow wondering why all their friends are abandoning them.
Then you are wrong. Exclusivity is horrible for the consumers forcing them to purchase multiple devices that for all intends and purposes shouldnt even exist anymore. Innovation in games has nothing to do with it being exclusive or not, especially now when all relevant consoles run exact same architecture as PCs (sorry nintendo, you havent been relevant in a long time).inu-kun said:
No, noone should EVER be forced to buy a console.
Absolute horseshpit. Not giving consumers a choice is anti-consumerism. Its as simple as that. There is no point in getting a console. If the only reason you buy it is for exclusives then you are being conned. Why the fuck do you defend conmen?LordTerminal said:
And what did made 16 bit era great? shit games and bought reviews? or was it the console wars?
There is no need to make anti-nintendo propaganda. its already one of the worst companies out there. The company IS a virus. It should be disbanded for its illegal youtube abuse alone.
For me, it's seeing what companies could do with games under the technological constraints they faced. With today's tech, anyone with a slight grasp on GameMaker can develop an entire multi-part epic with dialog, effects, etc.. That wasn't the case 20+ years ago when you cloudn't make a game bigger than a few dozen megabytes, a limited color palette, limits on animation complexity, and an audio byte had the risk of taking up an overwhelming majority of the cartridge.Strazdas said:
Also, to address you're other comments, it's because of business laws requiring companies to compete. If you want a lengthier explanation, look at my post near the top of the page [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.943342-Zero-Punctuation-Capcom-Five?page=3#23803230].
I'm not one for JRPGs, personally. Also, Xenoblade isn't really a Nintendo franchise. It's exclusive to Nintendo systems, but then again Rhythm Thief was as well, and I wouldn't really call that a Nintendo game.Transdude1996 said:
Why don't you calm down and have some kale?LordTerminal said:
Now, have you actually played TF? The gameplay is identical to that of DKCR. So yes, minimum effort.
At this point I'm convinced you're either a troll, an idiot, a sad, sad individual or any combination of the three. Please stop embarrassing yourself, it's only going to incite the mods.
Uhh, can I spend 300 dollars on a PC that can play the same games as a current console?Strazdas said:
That's the tradeoff I get from buying a console, I know that I'm buying a console at or sometimes below the price it cost to make the damn thing, so I'm fine with them keeping some stuff exclusive to let me do that
I'm not saying they are perfect angels or anything, but there are reasons for what they do
You must be new here. You should know that Yahtzee is biased against Nintendo because they never were and never will be the monolithic saints of gaming that all the fantards keep proclaiming them to be. It could also just be a running gag, because he's a COMEDIAN.LordTerminal said:
Furthermore, I take issue with your points.
1. You clearly don't understand what the word "gimmick" means. The PS2's DVD drive was an upgrade from the CD-ROM format, allowing for a considerable upgrade in disc space, therefore more game content, and the PS2 also happened to be a cheaper alternative to dedicated DVD players at the time of release, and you get to play games with it. Fucking bargain, that is. The PS2 had weaker specifications than the GameCube, correct, but the ability to watch DVD movies on it as well as play games is such an exceptional strong point that this alone killed the GameCube. Nevermind that Sony doesn't fuck with third-party developers, last I checked. Feel free to present evidence against this, however.
2. Mileage will vary. No one should hold reviews up as the gospel and Yahtzee agrees with me on this.
3. This wasn't about Capcom's recent fuck-ups, but their fleeting relationship with Nintendo.
4. You missed the part where Yahtzee said "And IF that's true". Don't quote mine.
5. You don't understand what is anti-consumer and what isn't, and what "elitism" is. When there exists multiple gaming platforms on the market, a developer is only hurting themselves when they refuse to release on multiple systems. It excludes demographics and hurts sales, breeds jealousy among the public and cripples the less financially blessed. By the very definition of the term "elitist", it is those that make software exclusive to one particular set of hardware, not the other way around.
So no, Yahtzee is not an "elitist auteur", he's a comedian, and you don't get to decide what he's fit to review or not. Read a dictionary sometime before you use big words you clearly don't understand. Finally, you're in denial. Stop telling others to "take off the tin foil hat and live in the real world". You sorely need to re-examine your stance on things and perceive actual facts, not spew immature strawman arguments.
You can, but i would suggest you choose a 500 dolalr PC instead and have far superior experience. And yes the console in some cases will perform better than that 300 dollar PC. It has nothing to do with exclusives however. The console companies get a cut from EVERY game sold. 10 dollars of any game you buy on a console goes to the console manufacturer, no matter who that game is from.DrownedAmmet said:
Yes, there are reason for what they do and those reasons are anti-consumer.
You do know that Steam does the same thing, as well as every other digital marketplace that exists. Does that mean you'll stop supporting Steam, GOG, and the like for this engagement in "anti-consumer" practices?Strazdas said:
Not really no. The difference is that Steam and other digital marketplaces take 15% (iOS takes 20%) cut from the sale price. Microsoft and Sony takes a flat 10 dollar fee. This means that on digital marketplaces you can have lower price with proportional cut to the distributor whereas on consoles you end up with most of the game price being the manufacturers fee.Transdude1996 said:
Furthermore, there is a difference in the approaches. MS and Sony takes a cut from every game sold, no matter what form. Steam only takes a cut from games sold via steam. Imagine if Nvidia would take 5 dollars cut for every game you bought because you use an Nvidia GPU. Thats what MS and Sony is doing.
So you think it would be fine if Nvidia and AMD took a cut for every game you bought because they manufactured your hardware?elvor0 said:
Excuse me, but Steam and GOG take a 30% cut [http://www.pcgamer.com/steam-and-gog-take-30-revenue-cut-suggests-fez-creator-phil-fish/].Strazdas said: