Zero Punctuation: Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Recommended Videos

zelta

New member
Jun 26, 2004
2
0
0
Awesome review, funny cos it's true :)
I think smash bros brawl was the only game making me want a wii... after watching this, I've realised how little smash bros games really offer...
 

Kinokiro

New member
Apr 23, 2008
35
0
0
I beat Subspace Emissary in a tiny bit over 7 hours... And that was without a walkthrough, seeing as I got it on the first day :3
 

Corsair256

New member
Feb 20, 2008
21
0
0
Interesting.

I kinda figured this might not be Yahtzees kind of game, so fair enough on the complaining really. Though it's fair enough to say the Smash series may be a 'button masher', in that you could still play the game through random mashing, its not a button masher in the traditional sense of classic fighting games. You won't mash a random string of buttons and pull off some uber move that you will never know how to do again, or if you look it up, be able to pull off again.

These games are much simpler than that. It's arguable again of course as to that being a plus or minus point though. Its a plus you can learn all the moves without an encylopedic brain and epic button pressing reactions, but its a minus that it makes button mashing possibly even more viable.
 

MikePhilbin

New member
Mar 15, 2008
50
0
0
"eat shit waffles?" that Yahtzee's a beautifully angry poet.

oh, I wonder how long it'll be until the world realises that 'that other over-hyped fighting game' Street Fighter 4 [http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2008/02/street-fighter-4-let-down-factor.html] isn't as good as it should be by now, link contains sincerely bewildered editorial.
 

Kinokiro

New member
Apr 23, 2008
35
0
0
Well, judging from the review, it looks like he played it with the Wiimote... which in itself is a retarded mode to play on... Definitely worth hooking up the GC controller for.
 

Senaro

New member
Jan 5, 2008
554
0
0
Kinokiro said:
ultimakewl said:
Marth and Roy are brothers
they are from the game Fire Emblem for the original NES (which WAS released in the US)
I believe Marth was the main character, but it might have been Roy
after the release of SSBM for the GameCube,
Nintendo put out a GameBoy Advanced Fire Emblem game (also released in the US)
Actually... the first Fire Emblem wasn't released in the US. It was released as Roy's version, which I believe was FE2... Marth is Roy's father(?), They re-released the original FE on GBA, which was Roy, and the sequel which was Roy's son, or grandson I think...

Anyway, the whole premise of Fire Emblem is about a kingdom usually being taken over, and the last surviving prince(ss) stands alone to fight the enemy kingdom, recruiting opponents along the way, which is pretty much what the idea behind SSB is. Like in the title song it says something like "We were once enemies, now we fight side by side"
Actually, Eliwood is Roy's father. They show that in the first american-released Fire Emblem on the GBA. I don't think Marth has any relation to Roy whatsoever.
 

Neverhoodian

New member
Apr 2, 2008
3,831
0
0
The great thing about Zero Punctuation is that I always enjoy watching the latest weekly installment, even if I disagree with Yahtzee's opinion. This is one such review. I bought a Wii solely for Brawl, and I haven't regretted my purchase in the slightest. However, this ZP review does a great job pointing out some of the game's shortcomings.

Yes, I too agree that the criteria to unlock Sonic and Snake was too steep, especially considering the hype they were given. And yes, the Subspace Emissary is too repetitive, especially right before the end boss. For the record though, there is a strategy to the fighting, particularly if you disable items. It's just not apparent right away (you can still get a fair ways button-mashing, though). And no, I don't have a pair of cat ears. I do have T-shirts, but they're mostly Valve-oriented.
_>
Oh yeah, and I have a complaint about the game Yahtzee didn't cover: Smash Balls. I understand that fights with randomly appearing items means a fair amount of luck is involved, but the Smash Balls are just ridiculous. If I'm the one unleashing a Final Smash on an opponent, I feel like a cheap bastard. If I'm on the recieving end (particularly if I have low damage), I feel like my opponent's a cheap bastard. If they wanted one-hit KO's, they should have implemented a penalty system to balance it out, such as taking extra damage from attacks for a short time afterwards. Thank goodness Smash Balls can be disabled in the item selection.
 

Kinokiro

New member
Apr 23, 2008
35
0
0
Thank you Senaro, that's what I was thinking :) I didn't feel like searching for it... Haha. I knew somebody was related,
 
Mar 30, 2008
20
0
0
nightfish said:
Joined to vote Valve said:
Unlocking characters is meant to be easy. If you play the single player (on co-op for more fun) you can get through the whole think in eight hours, tops. That really isn't asking that much. You could probably do it much faster if you dropped the difficulty
you sir have said why I won't buy the game. 8 hours or less? is that all i get for my hard earned cash
Doing it on Intense is much more challenging, there are like twenty other modes to play, and the game is based on multiplayer anyway. So no.
 

ccesarano

New member
Oct 3, 2007
523
0
0
The real question here is:

How many folks actually comprehend the significance of Bill Murray in that joke?

A question whose answer is surely going to make you feel more old than realizing you're one of the few that started with Final Fantasy 1 and not 7.
 

m_jim

New member
Jan 14, 2008
497
0
0
I think this forum is going to get really nasty before it is all over. Only an hour it's been up and the sheer level of ownage going on is pretty incredible. Thanks @ Garfgarog for pointing out that the whole "overrated" argument is just circular logic. Why is it bad? Because it's overrated. Why is it overrated? Because it's bad.
I'm not a Nintendo fanboy (I've never even finished a Mario, Zelda, or Metroid game), but I was fighting mad after this review, mostly for the same reasons that Kermi was. I can only imagine how the big N faithful are going to react.
 

Kinokiro

New member
Apr 23, 2008
35
0
0
As per unlocking Snake: It's not really that hard at all, nor does it take hours. All you need to do is play 15 brawls on Shadow Moses Island. Easily done, set the stock to one, and walk off the stage 15 times... Then beat Snake when he challenges you.
 

Russ Pitts

The Boss of You
May 1, 2006
3,240
0
0
ccesarano said:
The real question here is:

How many folks actually comprehend the significance of Bill Murray in that joke?
I got the reference. I drank twice.
 

MattyDienhoff

New member
Jan 3, 2008
341
0
0
My god, what he said about "THAT guy" is so true.

Yahtzee is truly gifted at putting into hilariously scathing words concepts that never found a suitable vehicle for escaping my own mind.
 

fajerkaos

New member
Mar 21, 2008
6
0
0
Garfgarog said:
How clever and witty. Must have taken you a whole 20 minutes to come up with that on your own.
Haha, I like you, you are funny.
Everything the comments above did, was to praise the review.
I didn't notice anyone behaving like an idiot before you showed up, with I found rather funny.

(and yes, I'm pretty slow at writing replies, mostly because English isn't my native language, and 'cause my internet connection sucks)
 

Karisse

New member
Apr 16, 2008
128
0
0
I can't say I was surprised by the review - Yahtzee hates Nintendo repetition and as for the actual game there isn't much to say about it other than you beat the tar out of each other.

I still love it though.
 

Kinokiro

New member
Apr 23, 2008
35
0
0
Garfgarog said:
Kinokiro said:
Well, judging from the review, it looks like he played it with the Wiimote... which in itself is a retarded mode to play on... Definitely worth hooking up the GC controller for.
Personally, I use the Wii Remote and I fare very well against a lot of people I play against, including some 'tourneyfags' I know who all use the Gamecube controller. I've gotten so used to it by now, I can't even play with a GC controller anymore. I don't see anything inherently worse in using the remote.
I just can't get used to the wiimote. Maybe the Chuckmote (always in the mood for random stick-waggling, Haha!), but the GC serves me well. Maybe I'm just old fashioned :) I'd use an N64 controller, if I could!
 

Melty Blood

New member
Dec 22, 2007
195
0
0
fajerkaos said:
Garfgarog said:
How clever and witty. Must have taken you a whole 20 minutes to come up with that on your own.
Haha, I like you, you are funny.
Everything the comments above did, was to praise the review.
I didn't notice anyone behaving like an idiot before you showed up, with I found rather funny.
(and yes, I'm pretty slow at writing replies, mostly because English isn't my native language, and 'cause my internet connection sucks)
Now now, settle down girls. We're starting to look like every other retarded forum on the internet.
 

renard

New member
Feb 5, 2008
57
0
0
ccesarano said:
The real question here is:

How many folks actually comprehend the significance of Bill Murray in that joke?
I'm sure most have comprehended it (groundhog day was a wonderful movie), but it still would be awesome using Bill Murray on brawl.
 

Wonko the Sane

New member
Apr 23, 2008
45
0
0
These are exactly the kind of people he was talking about, brilliant

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?p=10024665#post10024665